From Around the World
If one has to look at Chapan’ya , why not look at some other places on the planes as well?
Is there a pattern? Are they related? There is more than one group of people looking at anomalies. The following people, I found, while looking for arguments around the Carolina Bays.
Here is thei concept followed by a few pictures and comments:
Michael's idea: when you swing a golf club and scrape the ground, you get a debit. We were sure that the Bays and the Mounds were the debits, now we needed to find the scrape in the ground. After reviewing the data we had collected we settled on the premiss that we were looking at Cometary Ejecta. By location ejecta formations were found to have similar style and orientation. In matching up a number of different locations in which the oval footprint of ejecta was present we also found a similarity in the mineral make-up.
Globally we were finding data that would be consistent with our theory. We came to the conclusion that we needed to expand our research to other continents where we were seeing strong historical relationships between what we viewed as cometary ejecta, grazing events and great climactic and cultural changes.
Our efforts and results: Perigee: Zero
That is what they call their theory. Without elaborating one the similarities, what differences are there between a swing golf club and an incoming low angle meteorite? First of all there is tremendous difference in speed, secondly the huge friction between the meteorite and the atmosphere slows down the meteorite and influences its path, and furthermore the lower the angle, the longer the exposure, and the more interaction there also is with the gravity field of the earth. For meteorite to move out or on after grazing or scraping the earth, like a golf club after hitting the ball it would need to have a very high speed while still being significantly subject to the friction of the atmosphere and the forces of gravity.
There may be an idea in what they suggest, but do they not make too strong a conclusion based on a too one-sided argument? To decide for yourself take a look at the following:
_http://perigeezero.org/treatise/reference/kmz/index.html and _http://perigeezero.org/treatise/Proof_sets/index.html and
Next some pictures with comments:
From South Africa:
For comments to this photo: _http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php?Number=349324 where one finds:
Cintos, the "lake bed calligraphy" may have been marked before, but your folder of oriented lakes is what I find interesting. Do you have any more to add to that? It is very reminiscent of the "Carolina bays" in the southeast U.S. and to another grouping of oriented lakes in southeastern Australia. Those lakes are described in this thread. I've found quite a lot about the Carolina Bays, but so far nothing about the Australian lakes. Your post is the first I have ever heard of the South African lakes. They are particularly interesting because some are being mined. Meteoric material?
Before the answer from Cintos/PerigeeZero, a few pieces of fill-in:
To take the last first, Hill’s idea that the mines in South Africa may be benefiting from old impacts has support among others too, although these were published later.
Platinum From Meteorites
October 5, 2008 | Europlanet
Some of the platinum and iridium found in Earth’s crust was contributed by meteorites. Dr. Gerhard Schmidt of the University of Mainz, Germany believes that a large portion of highly siderophile elements in Earth’s crust have a cosmochemical origin.
The link for ‘this thread’ in Hill’s post is: _http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/31403/page/vc
It is mainly about the Carolina Bays, - by the way!
The Google link to the ‘Australian lakes’ is: _http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=81546&t=k&om=1 On this map there are five locations to look at. It would be good to know how many of these, if any are artificial dams, so as to exclude these from consideration.
These lakes look very similar in many ways to the Carolina Bays of the SE U.S. They are located in Southwest Australia about 180 miles SE of Perth. I have arbitrarily named groups of them for easier analysis. There are others outside of these groups.
One hypothesis about the formation of the Carolina Bays proposes that they formed such large ovals in some areas, not just because of a strike by pieces of a disintegrating comet fragments. The resulting lakes were so large because the glowing hot material, coming in at a steep angle, struck a boggy area and the steam created literally exploded large holes out of the soft wet substrate. Strikes on drier ground had much less effect. The Australian area is also an old river course. Could the same processes be in effect here? Any geologist or geomorphologist with knowledge of the area could be of great help here. I haven't found much by googling so far.
And while in Australia, there is from Perth; North West of the five groups of lakes:
See readers comments to the above on _http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/677491/Main/367970
EDIT, a couple of hours later: Somebody told me that the 'Perth formation' could be a sports field since:
The field may be round, square or oval – one of cricket's most famous venues is called The Oval.
and further more:
Australian (rules) football, or simply known as football, footy, Aussie rules or (erroneously as) AFL, is a team sport played between two teams of 18 players with a ball in the shape of a prolate spheroid. It is a football variant played outdoors on large oval shaped grass fields (often also used as a cricket ground), with four goal posts at each end.
Is this not hilarious?
Now back to Cintos’ answer to Hill’s post regarding the South African lakes:
The structure is present across most of the globe. I am attaching a keyhole file for Argentina.
The proposed morphology is discussed at perigeezero.org/treatise/Morphology/ejecta/carolina_bays
From Argentina see also:
their thoughts on “100 km long structure near Algarrobo Argentina”:
_http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=363602&t=k&om=1 On the menu to the left one can select different options, which explains their ideas quite well, if not, as it still seems to me, totally convincingly.
US Southwest Playas
US Southwest Playas: oriented Carolina bays?
What are Playa Lakes?
There are an estimated 50,000 of these landforms covering an area from Texas to Nebraska.
For more comments on these see the Weblink above.
A bizarre, highly strange peculiarity about at least one of these Playas: _http://geology.com/articles/racetrack-playa-sliding-rocks.shtml
Mima Mounds in Washinton State
Mima Mounds Prairie is a geologically unique area consisting of large unexplained mounds that are either round or elliptical in shape, standing from one-half meter to about two meters in height, and having a diameter from two and one-half meters to three meters. -Beth Geiger in Sunset Magazine
There was a link below Sunset Magazine but it is now dead, however for reference it was: _http://www.sunset.com/sunset/Premium/Travel/2002/06-Jun/MysteryMounds0602/MysteryMounds0602.html maybe the story is stored in some Web archive.
From a Perigee Zero point of view the Chapan’ya lakes might fit into their thinking. About the not so far away areas of Alaska and the Canadian NWT they write:
_http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/369888/page//vc/1 which has:
DannyC73 is correct. These are a subset of the oriented/aligned lakes found along the Northern coast of Alaska and also across the Tuktoyaktuk Peninsula in the Canadian NWT. These landforms are associated with the mystical Carolian Bays in that they are aligned. However, their composition is different - being composed of gravels rather than sand.
I left out the picture from the post of DannyC73, because it is not there. However if you like a small detour, DannyC73 adds a short detailed explanation of the sale of Alaska to the U.S.A for a mere 7.2 million $: _http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/242074/page/vc/vc/1
It is alright to look at pictures and maps and make comparisons like the Perigee Zero people do. But to decide something about such a hypothesis and also regarding Chapan’ya, one needs to find out, I think, what the exact conventional explanation is, to see if it is good enough. And for that a knowledgeable geologist could be helpful.
Just as there are individual craters that have not been caused by impact but may look like them, so also there may be formations that share a similarity with multiple impact locations but are not among them. Are Perth, SW Australia, Chapan’ya, (Ady’s picture), Carolina Bay etc multiple impact regions? We do not know, but if one happened, maybe it could look like one of them.
So if we do not bother about finding out whether this or that place was hit multiple times, one can still benefit from the illustrations such ‘maybe regions’ provide, by keeping in mind that once in while these multiple impacts do happen. Maybe a bit more often than many would like to think! And by continuing to keep the knowledge and expectations on an unrealistic low someone can better benefit from the mass psychological chock effect such an event would create and use it to increase control and programming. So if a multiple strike event does happen, one has to keep calm. Can a traumatized, chocked or panicked person be of much help to others?