All about Psychic Projectors

Woodsman

The Living Force
I have long held a fascination with media and fiction in particular.

Story-telling is an ancient aspect of human culture, seen in the archetype of the tribe gathering around a fire to re-tell the myths and legends and new stories important in their culture. It seems to me that this urge to share in story-telling is one of the most primal and effective ways of learning/teaching how to behave within the workings of the tribe. People have long shown, through their attraction to books and film and television, that they still remain very well tuned to receiving information in this manner in the modern day.

I can easily see why an alien invader might want to hijack this aspect of human behavior to insert subversive messages into the signal. --Or how STO beings might be able to tap into the system as part of an effort to shine knowledge into the world.

As it happens, the C's raised the concept when they brought up the subject of an "Army of Aryan psychic projectors" over a million strong beaming influence at the creative community. When I read this, it REALLY caught my attention. I'm very curious about this whole subject, and I'd be equally curious to read what other people think on the matter.

Now, whenever I've been tempted to write a comment on one of the many films discussed in this section, I find myself wanting to make a reference to the concept of the, 'psychic projector'. It seemed, though, that I would probably end up repeating myself frequently and I thought it might be a good idea to come up with a better way of dealing with things.

So toward that end, I have consolidated the various mentions of 'psychic projectors' made by the C's in this one thread so that it can serve as a sort of master document which can be linked to and from when discussing media in the Movies & Trivia section. --And also where the concept itself might be examined more fully.

I have started with the passage below where the bulk of the idea psychic projectors was presented. I've bolded the areas which I thought were of specific interest, and I've added a couple of my own thoughts between some segments of the transcript where I found myself puzzled. . .


[quote author=C transcripts 960921]
Q: (L) Hello. And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Toyjiia
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) All right, last week, when we shut down for the night we had
asked a question about the movie ID4, Independence Day, and we
were told to ask further questions about this, so that gives us a clue
that there might be something significant there. Does anybody
remember what the question was that I asked? (T) Is there any
significance to the ID4 movie?
A: Sure.
Q: (L) What was the primary intention of the makers of this movie?
The primary message that they attempted to convey?
A: Infuse thinking patterns with [planchette swirled a few times here]
concept of aliens.
Q: (L) They intended to infuse thinking patterns with concept of
aliens... was there any particular slant on aliens, per se, that was
seen as desirable in the making of this movie?
A: Slant?
Q: (L) Slant, in other words, did they wish to present them
inaccurately to confuse people, to present them as something to be
feared and fought against, or to make them appear so completely
erroneous, so that when actual aliens do appear, that they will not
be perceived as negative?
A: Infuse.
Q: (L) Infuse. Just the concept, the concept of aliens in general.
OK...
A: Part of a larger project.
Q: (L) And what is this project?
A: Called "Project Awaken."

Q: (L) And who is behind, or in charge of, this project?
A: Many.
Q: (L) Who are the primary group, groups or individuals? I'm sure
you're not going to give us individuals, but just the grouping.
A: Thor's Pantheum.
Q: (L) And what is Thor's Pantheum?
A: Sub-select trainees for transfer of enlightenment frequency
graduation.
Q: (L) What is enlightenment frequency graduation?

A: Think!
Q: (L) Enlightenment frequency graduation... so, sub-select
trainees...
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Well, is this group STS or STO?
A: Both.
Q: (L) OK... (T) Are they working at cross purposes?
A: No.
Q: (T) They're working together? Bipartisan?
A: No.
Q: (J) Are they aware of each other? Working on this?
A: Yes.

[/quote]

This is one spot where I find things a bit confusing. --According to the C's, there are both STO and STS groups involved in "Project Awaken" and they are aware of one another. They are not working at cross purposes. But they are also not working together. There is no bipartisanship. I looked up "Bipartisan" on the Merriam-Webster on-line dictionary just to be clear, --my word-fu wasn't strong on that word :-)

"Bipartisan -- of, relating to, or involving members of two parties ; specifically : marked by or involving cooperation, agreement, and compromise between two major political parties"

So they're not working at cross purposes but they're also not working in a bipartisan arrangement. This seems contradictory and I confess it has me stumped. Perhaps somebody can suggest a scenario where the pieces fit together logically?

Q: (J) Are they screwing each other up? (L) No, that's going in the
wrong direction...
A: There is more to all of this than you could dream.
Q: (T) There's more to all of this...were you referring to... (T) Who
are they? Thor's Pantheum. And they're sub-select trainees...That's
the group behind this movie;
OK...
A: An army of Aryan psychic projectors.
Q: (T) Well, that explains a lot more than Thor's Pantheum of sub-
select trainees! An army of psychic projectors. (L) And what do they
project?
A: Themselves... Right in to one's head.
Q: (T) Into one's head... this is better than 'Must See TV!' (L) Project
right into one's head... is anybody subject to this projecting?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, when they project themselves right into someone's head,
what does that someone perceive?
A: Inspiration.
Q: (L) Inspiration to what, or to do what?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Yes? To do what, to do something?
A: And...
Q: (L) To do something, and to understand or perceive something, is
that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (J) To believe something? (L) Yes. So, how many are in this
army?
A: 1.6 million.

Q: (L) When they're doing this projecting into someone's head,
where are they projecting from?
A: Mostly subterranean.
Q: (L) Subterranean, so these are the people of the tunnels, the
underground bases and all that sort of thing. Are they 3rd or 4th
density beings?
A: Both.

Q: (T) Let me back up to a question here. If they can do all this
projecting on their own, what was the point of the movie?
A: No, you misunderstand... This is an intense activity, directed
towards influencing the high level creative forces.

Q: (T) Projected against? Because this movie, if you've been
following the reviews and the people talking about it, this movie has
had more repeat business than any movie in years and years and
years and years. People have seen it ten and twenty times! (L) Was
there something subliminal in the movie? That opened something?
(J) That's a good question!
A: Sure.
Q: (L) And was this subliminal activity with the movie designed to
create an opening for this further...
A: Not for you, but for others.
Q: (L) Why? Do you mean me, personally, or us as a group? (T)
Well the movie didn't affect me.
A: Group.
Q: (L) What made us immune?
A: You already have the knowledge.

Q: (T) The movie wasn't meant for us; we already know. The movie
was meant for all of those who don't understand.
A: Say hello to Gene Roddenberry.
Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry present?
A: No.
Q: (L) In other words, say hello to him because he was doing that
sort of thing a long time ago?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry one of these people from Thor's
Pantheon...
A: No.
Q: (L) Why did you bring up Gene Roddenberry? (J) Because he
was doing it in Star Trek?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) He was doing a whole different thing with Star Trek... (L) Well,
lets not get too far off track, hang on, hang on...
A: It's not the exact "Slant," it's "the concept, stupid."
Q: (T) Well ,they don't have to get insulting here! (L) They weren't.
Ok...
A: "Its the economy, stupid."
Q: (J) We knew that!! (T) I was just teasing. Mirth!! Mirth! (L) Hold
everything. When you say influencing high level creative forces, do
you mean as in gathering, what would you call it, gravity waves...
A: No.
Q: (L) What are these high level creative forces that are needing to
be influenced, or desirable of being influenced?
A: Those in the creative arts.
Q: (L) So in other words, I see, this group is using their projecting
ability to influence those in the creative arts to do creative things that
will therefore influence the people on the planet. Is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, these individuals are in the underground tunnels, and
you say that they are both STS and STO.
A: We did not specify "tunnels," you did.
Q: (T) They said... how did they put that? Subterranean... (J) Mostly
subterranean.(T) ... Underground. In other words, underground, as
in resistance fighters type
underground, underground as in ...
A: No.
Q: (T) Not fighters, but the idea that they are part of the underground
movement? (L) Subterranean as in literally under the ground?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK, but not tunnels, then what?
A: We did not say "no tunnels" either.
Q: (L) Are these individuals living... I know we said the tunnels...
A: The point is: what happens when you assume?
Q: (L) We won't assume. Are there any specific things about this
movie other than the general import of opening to the idea of
aliens...
A: No.
Q: (L) So there's no specific thing that we can pin down in this
movie, and say that this might be an accurate representation of
anything? It was just entertainment for that purpose?
A: Enough about the movie, already!
Q: (T) But they were the ones who brought it up! (L) Well, yes, but
maybe they want us to get on to the subject of this 'Thor's Pantheon'
thing? (T) Well, I want to make sure that we're not missing
something... (T) So, we're looking at some Aryan psychic projectors
who are trying to stimulate people in a positive way, a la
Gene Roddenberry... (L) Now, that's an assumption. Can we say
that they are stimulating people in a positive way?
A: Maybe.
Q: (J) Can we say that they are stimulating people in a negative
way?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) So, there's probably a little of both.
And you say that we are
immune to it because we already have knowledge. Now, when you
say we have knowledge, do you mean just knowledge in particular
about aliens and alien realities and alien potentials and so forth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there something more on this subject of these Aryan
psychic projectors that we need to know or investigate?
A: Arkadiusz being tracked now.
Q: (L) By whom?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) And what do they plan on doing?
A: Open.

I wasn't clear as to whether or not the C's are still talking about the psychic projectors when they bring up Arkadiusz and the grays. The C's, I have noted, sometimes do not answer a question but instead introduce a new subject. If they are still talking about psychic projectors, then this would suggest that grays are part of the scenario in some manner and that part of the project involves tracking specific individuals. This seems likely, (how do you project an idea into somebody without tracking them?), but I wanted to be careful about assuming that this section was indeed linked. --Particularly given this next part. . .

Q: (L) Is there anything... Why did you tell me that? (T) To tell him?
A: Because it is time you talked with him more about aliens. He is
not well enough informed!!
Q: (L) Well, I sent him the book 'Grand Illusions,' I sent him the
Bramley book, and I sent him a Jacques Vallee book. He's presently
in the process of reading through these three books. What else do I
need to say to him? He's read the transcripts; he read them in a
week the whole way through.
A: And how much did he comment specifically about aliens.
Q: (L) Not a whole lot. Obviously there's something else you wish for
me to convey to him. Since I am going to be talking to him on the
phone tomorrow...
A: The seriousness of the situation... the reality of it... this is not fun
and games.


Okay.

So that was the bulk of the primary transcript where psychic projectors were discussed. The concept of projecting ideas and inspiration into people, however, has been brought up in other transcripts. I have clipped the segments I could find and present them here in chronological order. --I find it interesting to note that all but one of these clips date from before the above transcript. . .


[quote author=C transcripts 941102]
Q: (L) If the Nephilim are coming 36 million strong as enforcers for
the Lizzies, does the Confederation have a like amount for defense?
A: We don't operate that way.
Q: (L) Are we just going to have to fight them off ourselves?
A: Think of The Wizard of Oz. It was inspired by us.
Q: (L) Does the witch represent the Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, is there something we have or can do...
A: Glenda like us.
Q: (L) And who is the Wizard? Is that the Beast or the U.S. Govt.?
A: Close. Illuminati.
Q: (L) Are the monkeys the Nephilim.
A: Close enough.
Q: (L) If water destroyed the witch, and the witch represents the
Lizzies, can we destroy the Lizzies?
A: Knowledge.
[/quote]


[quote author=C transcripts 941119]
Q: (T) Does Commodore Kirk die at the end of the movie? (V) Does
X-files have the Lizzie influence?
A: No.
Q: (T) Does X-files tell the people what they need to hear?
A: Yes.

[/quote]

[quote author=C transcripts 9570329]
Q: (L) OK, is the Quorum the group we're supposed to be looking
for? (T) We have to go back and ask about the Quorum. We've got
so many characters, it's worse than X-Files!
A: No, more interesting.

Q: (T) Yes, it is, definitely!
[/quote]

This next quote doesn't talk about psychic projection, but I thought the use in it of the word "files", and that it had been presented in quotation marks was curious. --That and the fact the X-Files TV series was mentioned later on in the same transcript, also in quotes. It may have nothing to do with psychic projectors, but I thought it was interesting enough to include just in case. (Also, the word "bland" was in quotes earlier. Maybe the C's were offering an opinion as to the artistic merit of the show? Seems like a bit of a stretch, but they wouldn't be far off the mark in my opinion.)

[quote author=C transcripts 951202]
Q: (L) When we did the session on October 21st, we were talking
about robotoid type people, or reanimated humans, and that this is
what is done rather than
cloning and replacing. Then you said I had been in contact with 7 of
these, and we identified one of them. Then, we talked about profiles,
and it was indicated that
a "bland" personality might have something to do with identification.
You also said that you could not identify the others right at that
moment. Can you now do so?
A: Search your "files." Learning is sometimes best accomplished by
study and exploration.

Q: (L) Can I have a couple more clues as to what I am looking for?
You mentioned being in a hospital...
A: Non-emotive. There are other clues which you can discover by
your own study. It would not be advantageous for us to give you
further information on this subject. Speculation about this particular
subject will throw you off track.

[. . .]

Q: (L) Why did the X-Files have an implied Japanese experimental
conspiracy blamed for the UFO/alien activity in the United States?
Why are they presenting the Japanese as the Bad Guys?
A: Remember, the "X-Files" has a fictional basis.
[/quote]

I find it interesting that the C's in both reference to "Independence Day" and "X-Files" seem to suggest that the influenced media in question is not worth spending a lot of time examining. Presumably because it is material designed for the uninitiated general public rather than the seekers around the board.

[quote author=C transcripts 970719]
Q: Well, no. Well, is this reference to Alton Towers that Ark found on
the internet, about psychic projectors? That was the only unusual
thing we have found about this. Are we talking about some sort of
place where they have rotating shifts of psychic projectors?
A: As you know... fiction is often the guise for the deliverance of the
deepest of truths. And, on that note, good night.
[/quote]

There is one last item I wanted to include here because it deals with the issue of, "high level creative forces". --I don't know if or how it is linked, but the wording was similar enough to catch my attention. It is, as you will see, in a very different context. . .

[quote author=C transcripts 9 Jan 05] - Link

Q: (L) Regarding the recent earthquake and tsunami, there is a huge buzz on the net that this was not a natural phenomenon. Some say it could have been a meteor; others say it was a US nuke; others say it was India and Israel playing around in deep sea trenches. Then there is the speculation on an EM weapon of some description. The New agers are saying it was the start of the final 'Earth Changes". So what really caused this earthquake that happened one year minus one hour after the earthquake in Iran?

A: Pressure in earth. Not any of the proferred suggestions. But remember that the human cycle mirrors the cycle of catastrophe and human mass consciousness plays a part.

Q: In what way does mass consciousness play a part?

A: When those with higher centers are blocked from full manifestation of creative energy, that energy must go somewhere. If you cannot create "without" you create "within".

Q: (L) In other words the acts of the STS consortium in trying to suppress steal and control the creative energy from those with higher centers may be the cause of their own destruction because that energy is uncontrollable. [. . .]
[/quote]

Okay. That's it for this post!

Like I said earlier, I'd invite people who are so inclined to refer back to this thread if/when they find it useful. --I will be doing that when I comment on some of the items appearing in the Movies & Trivia section.

Cheers!
 
Woodsman said:
This is one spot where I find things a bit confusing. --According to the C's, there are both STO and STS groups involved in "Project Awaken" and they are aware of one another.... they're not working at cross purposes but they're also not working in a bipartisan arrangement. This seems contradictory and I confess it has me stumped.

There are examples throughout history of individuals and/or groups working on the same problem or project, aware of each other, but not working together or at cross purposes. Often there has been an element of competition involved, however. Many of the world's major scientific, medical, and technological discoveries are examples. The person or group who first comes up with a working model and applies for a patent is usually thereafter identified as the sole "inventor" or "discoverer", but in fact often more than one person or group were working on the same project on parallel paths.

In the case of "Project Awaken", the difference between the two groups would be the motivation involved; both want Earthlings to "awaken" to the alien reality, but what they want to see happen once that awakening takes place is a different matter....

That's my take on it, FWIW.
 
Interesting post, thankyou.

Woodsman said:
Story-telling is an ancient aspect of human culture, seen in the archetype of the tribe gathering around a fire to re-tell the myths and legends and new stories important in their culture. It seems to me that this urge to share in story-telling is one of the most primal and effective ways of learning/teaching how to behave within the workings of the tribe. People have long shown, through their attraction to books and film and television, that they still remain very well tuned to receiving information in this manner in the modern day.

In Umberto Eco's book "The Search for the Perfect Language" (also cited in Laura's "The Secret History of the World") it shows how narrative appears to be the most effective way to communicate across time. Here is what Eco writes:

Umberto Eco said:
Perhaps the most discomforting document for the future of the language of images is the report drawn up in 1984 by Thomas A. Sebeok (Sebeok, 1984). He had been commissioned by the Office of Nuclear Waste Isolation and by a group of other institutions to elaborate answers to a question posed by the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The American government had chosen several desert areas in the US for the burial (at the depth of hundreds of metres) of nuclear waste. The problem was not so much that of protecting the area from imprudent intrusions today, but rather that the waste would remain radioactive for another ten thousand years. That is more than enough time for great empires and flourishing civilizations to perish. We have seen how, a few centuries after the last pharoah had disappeared, knowledge of how to read hieroglyphs had disappeared as well. It is easily conceivable that, ten thousand years hence, something similar will have happened to us. We may have reverted to barbarism. We may even be visited by inhabitants of other planets: how will we warn these alien visitors that they are in a danger zone?
Almost immediately, Sebeok discarded the possibility of any type of verbal communication, of electric signals as needing a constant power supply, of olfactory messages as being of brief duration, and of any sort of ideogram based on convention. Even a pictographic language seemed problematic. Sebeok analysed an image from an ancient primitive culture where one can certainly recognize human figures but it is hard to say what they are doing (dancing, fighting, hunting?).
Another solution would be to establish temporal segments of three generations each (calculating that, in any civilization, language will not alter beyond recognition between grandparents and grandchildren), giving instructions that, at the end of each segment, the message would be reformulated, adapting it to the semiotic conventions prevailing at the moment. But even this solution presupposes precisely the sort of social continuity that the original question had put into doubt. Another solution was to fill the entire zone with messages in all known languages and semiotic systems, reasoning that it was statistically probable that at least one of these messages would be comprehensible to the future visitors. Even if only part of one of the messages was decipherable, it would still act as a sort of Rosetta stone, allowing the visitors to translate all the rest. Yet even this solution presupposed a form of cultural continuity (however weak it would be).
The only remaining solution was to institute a sort of 'priesthood' of nuclear scientists, anthropologists, linguists and psychologists supposed to perpetuate itself by co-opting new members. This caste would keep alive the knowledge of the danger, creating myths and legends about it. Even though, in the passage of time, these 'priests' would probably lose a precise notion of the peril that they were committed to protect humanity from, there would still survive, even in a future state of barbarism, obscure but efficacious taboos.
It is curious to see that, having been presented with a choice of various types of universal language, the choice finally fell on a 'narrative' solution, thus reproposing what really did happen millenia ago. Egyptian has disappeared, as well as any other perfect and holy primordial language, and what remains of all this is only myths, tales without a code, or whose code has long been lost. (pp. 176-177)

Cassiopaeans said:
A: As you know... fiction is often the guise for the deliverance of the
deepest of truths. And, on that note, good night.

There were some words in a book I read a long time ago, called "The Damned Yard" (Ivo Andric), that always spoke to me:
We have reason and experience and can judge them (stories) and compare them one with another, accept or reject them, partially or completely. In this way, something of human truth is always left for those who listen or read patiently.


I'm a bit confused as to who these psychic projectors are. Could they be ourselves in different dimensions or densities?
 
..This might sound crazy, but I'll come forward and say this.. I have had a meet up with 2 of them. I might post something about it in the near future. If anyone wants to know more, message me. Not always 100% sure, if I should keep it a secret or not.
 
infinet said:
..This might sound crazy, but I'll come forward and say this.. I have had a meet up with 2 of them. I might post something about it in the near future. If anyone wants to know more, message me. Not always 100% sure, if I should keep it a secret or not.

Hi infinet, personal messages are highly discouraged due to the fact that personal messages lend themselves to the possibility of feeding and manipulation. As posted in December of last year:

With the advent of our new forum, we now have the capability to send personal messages to other forum members. This can be a good thing, or a bad thing. The internet is filled to the brim with predators, as is 'real life' - sexual predators, emotional predators, psychological predators - and this forum, being public, is not immune to such types. In fact, due to the nature of what we discuss, it attracts them.

For this reason, this post is a strong reminder that just because someone in a member of this forum does NOT mean they are 'safe'. While 'off-list' contact between those doing the Work is highly discouraged due to the high likelihood for manipulation and emotional feeding (conscious or unconscious) on both parts, personal messaging on the forum presents an even more dangerous situation since this is a public venue and not a 'school' per se.

This is mostly a notice for new members, since long time members fully understand the dynamic and issues that can arise from private communication. If you ever receive a personal message from someone on this board that makes you even vaguely uncomfortable - or if you have no idea why you received it (you don't 'know' the person, it was just 'idle chit chat' or 'flirting' or 'fishing for information' ) then please notify a moderator so the situation can be taken care of.

Unfortunately, such measures are necessary in this world, where sheep walk among wolves - so - as always - knowledge protects and remember to be vigilant at all times!

With that said, if you have something to share, then do what you think is best. I would suggest, however, that the idea that you have 'met up with' what the C's describe as a 'psychic projector', much less two of them, would suggest that you have been in an underground city, since that is where the C's implied most of them resided. Is this the case? If not, then, you would have 'met up' with two of those who are not subterranean?
 
C transcripts 960921] Q: (L) And what is Thor's Pantheum? A: Sub-select trainees for transfer of enlightenment frequency graduation. [/quote] [quote author=Woodsman said:
This is one spot where I find things a bit confusing. --According to the C's, there are both STO and STS groups involved in "Project Awaken" and they are aware of one another. They are not working at cross purposes. But they are also not working together.... So they're not working at cross purposes but they're also not working in a bipartisan arrangement. This seems contradictory and I confess it has me stumped. Perhaps somebody can suggest a scenario where the pieces fit together logically?

When this thread was reactivated today, it led me to re-read your initial post, and I think I realize why you find the above "contradictory". I think you may be associating "enlightenment" exclusively with the STO path; I have often done that myself.

However, as I understand it, "enlightenment", the raising of one's Frequency Resonance Vibration, is not limited to those on the STO path. One can achieve "enlightenment" and graduate to 4th Density on the STS path as well. So both "sides" have an interest in seeing those they are trying to influence raise their FRV and graduate to 4th Density. As the C's indicate in the transcript below, "enlightenment" is about is about Knowledge, not Goodness:

Cassiopaeans said:
Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is knowledge and not love?
A: That is correct.

Cassiopaeans said:
Q: What I am trying to get to is an understanding of an enlightened being. Eddie and a LOT of other people have the idea that an enlightened being IS LOVE, and that is what they radiate, and that this is a result of being enlightened.
A: No, no, no, no, no. "Enlightened" does not mean good. Just smart.
Q: Okay, so there are STS and STO enlightened beings?
A: Yes, we believe the overall ratio is 50/50.
Q: Okay, what is the profile of an enlightened STO being? A: An intelligent being who only gives.

(see Cassiopaea Glossary entry on Enlightenment)
 
.. as the C's mentioned.. they project themselves right into ones mind, this happened while I was sleeping/dreaming. I did not go anywhere underground for this, I was on a trip to Mexico back in 2000. The only reason why I know who they we're/are is because of the transcripts.

They looked like normal everyday looking males, short blonde hair, if I was to age them (appearance only) I would say about 35. They talked in an unknown language to me,, but also used telepathy to communicate.

There is obviously more to this story, and the main thing is I haven't given up on this.. there was inspiration given in a highly creative manner. In terms of STO/STS, well this is the way I see it, they do these things as service to others for sure. Not just for me, but for others to be influenced by it as well, in a very positive way.
 
infinet said:
In terms of STO/STS, well this is the way I see it, they do these things as service to others for sure. Not just for me, but for others to be influenced by it as well, in a very positive way.

Are you referring to just the two Nordics you have encountered in your mind...or to the idea of mind projections being STO on the whole?
 
infinet said:
I am talking about 'Aryan Psychic Projectors'.. that I encountered from my experience.

Hi infinet, have you read the entire Wave and Adventure Series? It appears that you are quite confused over what defines STO, Free Will and whether one can implicitly trust their own perceptions or not.
 
and of course there are methods of influencing people in the creative arts much more openly.

i watched the new documentary 'Core Of Corruption' (_http://www.coreofcorruption.com/index.php) recently (which was surprisingly good) and in it they mentioned the following:

as you might be aware, the x-files had a spin-off series called 'The Lone Gunmen' - and in its pilot episode, which aired 6 months before 9/11 the exact same scenario was used as the plot.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKQz-xm0is
one of the castmembers appeared on alex jones' show (yeah, i know, i know) and stated that the FBI and the CIA often gave ideas to the x-files writers and that at the writers parties there were usually CIA agents present.
 
anart .. I have started reading it back in 1999. Have read it in its entirety. There really is no point to posting here.. people just like to nit pick things.. too bad.
 
infinet said:
anart .. I have started reading it back in 1999. Have read it in its entirety.

Great - did you notice the sections discussing the fact that we cannot trust our own perceptions?

infi said:
There really is no point to posting here.. people just like to nit pick things.. too bad.

If by 'nitpick' things you mean try to get to the objective truth of the matter, then, yes, I can see why that would be frustrating for someone who is emotionally invested in subjective impressions.
 
infinet said:
anart .. I have started reading it back in 1999. Have read it in its entirety.
Maybe you have read it in its entirety. But have you understood (or maybe applied) it in its entirety?..

infinet said:
There really is no point to posting here.. people just like to nit pick things.. too bad.
I think you expected some kind of food  and you didn't get it and now you're disappointed. I've met some people who claimed to have some ''secret'' information that could reveal a lot, but in the end all they did was feeding. I don't really think they knew what it was that they thought they knew/saw or experienced. Just because you've seen something that you think could be ''Aryan Psychic Projector'', doesn't mean that that IS what you have seen.
 
infinet said:
There really is no point to posting here.. people just like to nit pick things.. too bad.

Hi infinet, if you've read the forum much you may have come across a common saying, "the devil is in the details". This goes along with challenging our perceptions - it's usually in the details where we can find signs of distortion. So details are frequently analyzed here to find distortion because the goal is truth. This is far different than nit picking, which I think is no different than passive aggressive feeding. There is a point to posting here, and it often times is to get the opportunity to challenge what we take for truth. If you do not want to undertake such challenges then indeed, there would not be a good reason to be here.
 

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