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Anne Frank's Diary - A Hoax?
Radagast:
--- Quote ---Read for instance the entries made between 16 April-44 and 17 April-44. It does not give us the impression of being a story written by a young healthy girl but rather the work of some person or persons who are trying to make an issue out of something invented.
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Does this imply that prosecution of Jews during WWII in general is just an invention?!
Anne Frank's Diary was obligatory literature in later years of elementary school. Needles to say it left a tremendous impression.
By the end of the day whether it is a hoax or not is not so relevant IMO. I am sure number of people across Europe during those days had to live in hiding and in the same or similar conditions described in this book and surely had same or similar experiences as described in the book.
It is more relevant what kind of spin is being put on these happenings.
For more balanced perspective on fate of Jews in Holland during WWII, I recommend dutch movie called Black Book (Zwartboek 2006)
Verhoeven has emphasized that the story does not show an obvious moral contrast between characters, for a theme of moral relativism:
“In this movie, everything has a shade of grey. There are no people who are completely good and no people who are completely bad. It's like life. It's not very Hollywoodian."
The last bit is not true - the movie is sickeningly Hollywood, still it is worth watching.
Mechanic:
--- Quote from: Corto Maltese on April 03, 2009, 12:54:51 AM ---
--- Quote ---Read for instance the entries made between 16 April-44 and 17 April-44. It does not give us the impression of being a story written by a young healthy girl but rather the work of some person or persons who are trying to make an issue out of something invented.
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Does this imply that prosecution of Jews during WWII in general is just an invention?!
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No it doesn't, and I don't see how it could be interpreted that way.
--- Quote from: Corto Maltese on April 03, 2009, 12:54:51 AM ---Anne Frank's Diary was obligatory literature in later years of elementary school. Needles to say it left a tremendous impression.
By the end of the day whether it is a hoax or not is not so relevant IMO.
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Well, I think it is relevant, that's why I posted it. If it is a hoax this fact in itself could be spun in numerous ways, to various ends. I posted it because I want to know the thruth. I'm not suggesting that all of it is made up, it could be that parts were added later, or the work could be rewritten or otherwise. This is unclear to me thus far.
--- Quote from: Corto Maltese on April 03, 2009, 12:54:51 AM --- I am sure number of people across Europe during those days had to live in hiding and in the same or similar conditions described in this book and surely had same or similar experiences as described in the book.
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I think you're right on that one.
--- Quote from: Corto Maltese on April 03, 2009, 12:54:51 AM ---It is more relevant what kind of spin is being put on these happenings.
For more balanced perspective on fate of Jews in Holland during WWII, I recommend dutch movie called Black Book (Zwartboek 2006)
Verhoeven has emphasized that the story does not show an obvious moral contrast between characters, for a theme of moral relativism:
“In this movie, everything has a shade of grey. There are no people who are completely good and no people who are completely bad. It's like life. It's not very Hollywoodian."
The last bit is not true - the movie is sickeningly Hollywood, still it is worth watching.
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I saw part of the movie, still have to watch the remaining 30 minutes. I think it's a good movie indeed.
As for the spin being put on the happenings of WWII, this thread was an eye opener for me: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9304.0
Mechanic:
--- Quote from: Laura on April 01, 2009, 10:59:23 PM ---I would understand this to mean that the person wrote the diary entries in exercise books, not that a "diary" was "kept" (as in, concealing a book within a book) inside an exercise book.
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I thought it meant that the diary was kept in a book, as in concealing a book within a book. I've found contradicting stories about this, so I'll do some further reading and post my findings here.
Oh and btw PepperFritz, apologies accepted, thanks for going through the work of reposting the material ;)
François:
Hi,
I do not understand very well, is it a hoax, or it could be a hoax ?
In linking the words 'Anne Frank's Diary' with the words 'A Hoax', definitively it will remain traces of suspicion.
If it is really a hoax, this is highly jusified (not to hide the fact it is...), if not, or not sure: question mark at least should be better as end character in the topic title.
[we can find articles saying it is authenticated :
_http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/08/books/an-authenticated-edition-of-anne-frank-s-diary.html
and we can find studies of the Diary explaining with arguments why it is a fraud...]
mkrnhr:
François, did you read the entire thread or just the title? :)
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