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Offline wilecoyote

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Knowing- the movie
« on: April 16, 2009, 06:22:52 PM »
Hello forumites!

Has anyone seen the film "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage?

The synopsis, according to IMDB.com is as follows:

Academy Award® Winner Nicolas Cage (National Treasure: Book of Secrets, Leaving Las Vegas) stars in KNOWING, a gripping action-thriller of global proportions about a professor who stumbles on terrifying predictions about the futureand sets out to prevent them from coming true. In 1959, as part of the dedication ceremony for a new elementary school, a group of students is asked to draw pictures to be stored in a time capsule. But one mysterious girl fills her sheet of paper with rows of apparently random numbers instead. Fifty years later, a new generation of students examines the capsules contents and the girls cryptic message ends up in the hands of young Caleb Koestler. But it is Calebs father, professor John Koestler (Nicolas Cage), who makes the startling discovery that the encoded message predicts with pinpoint accuracy the dates, death tolls and coordinates of every major disaster of the past 50 years. As John further unravels the documents chilling secrets, he realizes the document foretells three additional eventsthe last of which hints at destruction on a global scale and seems to somehow involve John and his son. When John's attempts to alert the authorities fall on deaf ears, he takes it upon himself to try to prevent more destruction from taking place. With the reluctant help of Diana Wayland and Abby, the daughter and granddaughter of the now-deceased author of the prophecies, John's increasingly desperate efforts take him on a heart-pounding race against time until he finds himself facing the ultimate disaster and the ultimate sacrifice.

The full synopsis can be obtained from the following link(Which contains spoilers):
[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448011/synopsis[/url

!!!!Spoiler Alert!!!
What I found intriguing about the movie was that at the ending, the aliens were portrayed as the good guys/ saviours of mankind. They were even depicted as having an angelic appearance, complete with the silhouette of wings!

It brought to my mind (while at the cinema) what the Cassies have detailed to Laura, with regards to the programming being complete (i'm not too sure as to the specifics). It pertained to Project Blue book, Lucid, Bible prophecies etc.


It's interesting that the powers that be are inching closer to revealing to the public about a cosmic threat, not a man-made (global warming) one. Not cyclical planetary bombardment by comets, but solar flares! Hmmmm....

I think it's an interesting watch. Quite good on the special effects.

I wonder what these dudes are gonna come up with next?

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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 06:54:46 PM »
The critics didn`t like it... with the exception of Roger Egbert.
On his blog there`s an essay about "Knowing" and an interesting discussion about the movie, free will + determinism:
_http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/03/a_roll_of_whose_dice.html

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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 08:53:44 PM »
Hm , I have heard about the movie and I was waiting for it , its not yet in our cinema's.
But..good aliens with wings..? Is it something like "The day when the Earth stood still"?
Sounds like the end is very predictible and copied?

Interesting  Roger Ebert's Journal text. Thanks!

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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 11:46:54 PM »
Yes watched and it is pretty interesting movie but such oddly sts end; specifically selected children separated from families and picked up by UFOs and not so "friendly" aliens in name of salvation of human race and than "safely" landed in the new world (reminded me on Knatekkian travel agency and flight attendants) while the earth is gone crispy trough solar flare. STS movie, for me main message is: some of you will know when the end will approach, you might fly with us if on the passenger manifest if not enjoy in show, because YOU REALLY CAN NOT DO ANYTHING, oh and aliens are on the end shown as entities of LIGHT. :O
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2009, 11:58:02 AM »
i watched this recently and really disliked it.
it was one of those movies where you enjoy it almost all the way through only to find out in the 3rd act that the whole thing is crap.
it is full of programming and tries to satisfy both ends of the belief-spectrum - the new age 'lovies' and the old-school religious freaks...

very disappointed in the director, especially after his brilliant 'dark city'.
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 05:17:04 AM »
I caught this on dvd tonight, just out of curiosity - and boy - talk about programming the masses...

Even creatures who traumatize your children and drive them insane to the point of self-harm are saviors - the main point is to accept your crispy fate and not get in the way.   :rolleyes:
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 07:35:22 AM »
i watched this recently and really disliked it.
it was one of those movies where you enjoy it almost all the way through only to find out in the 3rd act that the whole thing is crap.
it is full of programming and tries to satisfy both ends of the belief-spectrum - the new age 'lovies' and the old-school religious freaks...

very disappointed in the director, especially after his brilliant 'dark city'.


I couldn't agree more. I found myself intrigued at first and by the end I was very disappointed.

Spoiler Alert!

I found the ending kind of funny. That the aliens didn't let the kid's father go with him. I was laughing and was like... look how huge their space ship is, but they're like "sorry we don't got room for your dad." It was such a horrible ending. And when it showed how the kids were like "Adams and Eves" or whatever of the new world I was just like oh lawd..:halo:   :rolleyes:
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 10:39:28 AM »
Even creatures who traumatize your children and drive them insane to the point of self-harm are saviors - the main point is to accept your crispy fate and not get in the way.   :rolleyes:

Not only that, but the creatures who traumatize your children are MIB, and they're actually the good guys -- who knew!
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 06:43:05 AM »
Quote from: anart
I caught this on dvd tonight, just out of curiosity - and boy - talk about programming the masses...

No kidding! It was enough to make me swear off all alien invasion movies,   :O  at least for a while. The heavy-handed use of emotional manipulation to corrupt one of the noblest qualities a parent can have for their children:  wanting to do the right thing for them and concluding that they would have a brighter future with the aliens, was very disturbing to say the least.
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 09:51:53 AM »
I just saw this movie yesterday. I agree with all the programming stuff. It seemed to try and string together bits and pieces of ideas things without really knowing the truth - like tying religion with aliens/MIBs/Nordics. They could only take the ones "who could hear the call", but were children. Putting people's lives at stake and traumatizing them. Ridiculous.

At the same time they were pushing the Christianity connection, they were giving the message that no religion could help you in the end. Even the prophesies didn't make sense to me - if these aliens knew who they wanted to take and could reach them at any time, why bother with it? In addition, no one could do anything to stop the prophecies from happening or lessen the number of people injured. It also completely ignores possibility of free will which has been stated.

Another thing, what was up with all the stones?
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 09:20:03 PM »
I agree also on the programming the masses. Funny also that the aliens had to physically kidnap the kiddies via a car and bring them to the rendezvous point with the spaceship...

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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 08:27:08 PM »
The movie is based on a novel and the writer, who has also written the script with some others, has stories on the net. When thinking about mass programming, I wonder if certain messages are conveyed through certain writers through inspiration, or something else?
Here is his website where stories are shared and they are really `dark`.

http://www.darkanddarker.com/

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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2012, 09:33:24 PM »
I just saw the movie. Funny that the little guy is vegetarian. We know that ET like vegetarians.  ;)

The stones... remind me of John Keel: those entities give always some objects to people. In that case some stones. Just for the fun to give something. :huh:

At the end of the movie when Nicholas Cage enter the city and saw the chaos, the scene reminds me many scenes we have seen of chaos during many manifestations, that in fact we are like ants, sometimes.  :(

The cars? they surely were sponsors of the movie.  :D



 
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Re: Knowing- the movie
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2012, 02:59:25 PM »
I saw this film some tome ago.

And even when I catched some questionable concepts of the film. One

thing that think was intresting is the scene when Michael Cage goes to his father house

and all the family together Calm, no Panic, no Madnes (not giving Energy to Drama)

waited to their destruction, sort of Dying in a Calm way.

It was an intresting scene indeed.

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