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Herakles:
I found a cool star chart for those interested but do not have any texts on the subject:

http://observe.phy.sfasu.edu/SFAStarCharts/SFAStarChartsAll.pdf

 Shijing said:


--- Quote ---The path of the Wave, as noted above, is supposed to be a 'circuitous or cyclical route', and I am not sure if that may help explain this.  In any case, I am interested in anyone else's thoughts or contributions to this topic.

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I find this subject fascinating, have not thought about it too much. 

But Leo IS one of me favourite constellations.   :D 

Maybe this means we should be on the lookout for the Leonites, other channelers, or some such?   :P

All joking aside this is an interesting topic, will return later with some additional thoughts.

rrraven:

--- Quote ---Orion: Epsilon Orionis (1359.01 ly) : The Orion Material begins 1984 (published 1987)
Pleiades (440 ly) : Barbara Marciniak begins channeling Pleiadians 1988 (published 1992)
Cassiopaea (Alpha Cassiopaea: 229 ly) : Transmissions begin July 1994
Arcturus (36.7 ly) : We the Arcturians published 1990
Leo: Wolf 359 (7.78 ly)
--- End quote ---

ok  lets say there is a three and a bit year gap between orion and pleiades  1359 divided by 3  gives 453 ( close to 440)


  lets say there is a 10 year gap between C s in C and C s in LEO in 06...229 divided by 30  gives 7.63   (close to 7.78)
  
10 years from 06 is 2016    gives 0.25 light years from here  

star chart did not load for me    sooooo can one connect a circuitous or cyclical route from Orion via Pleiades to Cass to Leo and where would it lead to past leo to somewhere 0.25 ly away?


edit    Session 06 September 2006 –

   
    Q: (L) Where do you transmit through?
   
    A: U have been through a test. Getting close to Leo. Cassiopaea still reigns.
       


ahh just realized the C s where not quite "in " leo in 06  that may throw my shonky calulations out  lol

Herakles:
I think you have the right idea though, rrraven, which is looking for patterns.

But the thing I cannot quite grasp is how time, light years, distances and speed, etc should have anything to do with it if they are 3rd density concepts and do not apply to the higher densities? 

What is that factor, in other words, that might or will lead to the onset of the Wave, considering it is real and does occur? 

Speed or distance cannot cause delay, can they?

In other words, 1359 LY (Orion) to 440 LY (Pleiades) (differential of ~900) in only 4-8 years, but 229 LY (Cass) to 7.78 LY (Leo) (differential of ~220) takes 12 years plus?

See my point?


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06.17.95

Q: (L) On the subject of time as we discussed the other day: we talked about the fact that at the constant of light there is no time, there is no matter, there is no gravity, but that any unit, infinitesimally small to the downward side of the constant of light, suddenly there is gravity and suddenly there is matter. And we asked what is it that congeals this matter out of the energy of light, so to speak, and I believe that the answer we received was that it was consciousness from 7th level. From our perspective, would it be possible to achieve this constant and move through to the other side of it, or at least stay fixed with it, without de-materializing? Is the speed of light interconnected with the state of no time and no gravity?

A: No in an absolute sense, in a third density sense.

Q: (L) Okay, if you are in fourth density, for example, does everything move at the speed of light and is that why there is no time there and no gravity?

A: No. That is an incorrect concept…

[(T) There is no speed of light, light is everywhere.]

Precisely. There is no speed of light in fourth density because there is no need for any “speed.” Speed, itself, is a third density concept. You remember, all there is is lessons. That’s it! There’s nothing else. It is all for your perception. For our perception. For all consciousness. That’s all there is.

<snip>

A: Are you going to need to learn about the speed of light when there is no longer a speed of light?
Q: (L) Well, that is what I am trying to do. Once you learn it, maybe you are not subject to it’s lessons anymore. I mean, you get concepts presented, you absorb them, practice them, they become part of you and then you go to the next thing.

A: Yes, but you are asking about the speed of light as relates to fourth density and above density levels and we are telling you that there is no speed of light there because there is no need for that, because once you reach fourth density level, you have learned the lessons of third density level.

Q: (L) Well, if a person on third density gets into some kind of vehicle and achieves light speed, does that automatically translate them into fourth density?

A: Could you please point out one of these vehicles?

Q: (L) Well, we don’t have any… yet.

A: Do you expect to have any before you go to fourth density?

Q: (L) No.
A: Then the lesson is learned, yes?
Q: (L) Sort of.
A: Now, contemplate, because all there is is lessons.
Q: (L) Well, you talk about time being an illusion, time being something we hold dear to us like a mother, and that sort of thing, and I would be perfectly happy to let go of time…
A: You do! Let go!
Q: (L) Well, it is one thing to want to do it in your mind and another thing altogether to do it in your system, your internal operating system.
A: Your internal operating system? Could you please explain what an internal operating system is?
Q: (L) I guess it is the subconscious mind.
A: It is?
Q: (L) Maybe.
A: My, my.
Q: (L) For example: a person can have a belief about prosperity in their conscious mind and can talk about it and say affirmations and all kinds of postive things for themselves, and yet, for some reason that individual continually lives on the edge of poverty because something keeps happening that they keep screwing up to keep themselves at the level of poverty. And, when you start digging around in their subconscious mind you find out that somewhere there is the belief in poverty or there is a past life connection where they feel they need or deserve to be poor, so, their internal operating system takes precedence over their conscious beliefs and thoughts. That is what I am talking about here. The point is that you may say that you would like to get rid of time and you may understand it conceptually, but something internal keeps you tied to it. How do you get rid of that internal connection?
A: Something internal keeps you tied to it? We feel you are missing the point.
Q: (L) Well, maybe I am.
A: You see, we speak to all of you when we say this. It’s now time for you, as individuals, to try to move away, as much as possible, not to force yourselves, of course, but to try and move away at your own pace as much as possible, from the constraints of third density. You have all learned lessons to the level where you are more than ready to begin to prepare for fourth density. Third density involves a level of physicality and restriction and restraint and all of the things that go along with those, that you no longer need. So, therefore, even though we understand that at times it may feel comfortable to cling to this, there is time for you, and there is that word again, it is time for you to consider moving ahead and get ready for fourth density and not to be concerned with such things as time or how to free yourself from the illusion of time. That really is not important. That’s like the third grade student delving into mathematics and stopping everything to go back and contemplate the ABC’s and why it isn’t CBA or BAC. There really is no point. It is what it is. They are what they are.

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--- Quote from: rrraven on October 29, 2010, 03:37:31 AM ---
--- Quote ---Orion: Epsilon Orionis (1359.01 ly) : The Orion Material begins 1984 (published 1987)
Pleiades (440 ly) : Barbara Marciniak begins channeling Pleiadians 1988 (published 1992)
Cassiopaea (Alpha Cassiopaea: 229 ly) : Transmissions begin July 1994
Arcturus (36.7 ly) : We the Arcturians published 1990
Leo: Wolf 359 (7.78 ly)
--- End quote ---

ok  lets say there is a three and a bit year gap between orion and pleiades  1359 divided by 3  gives 453 ( close to 440)


  lets say there is a 10 year gap between C s in C and C s in LEO in 06...229 divided by 30  gives 7.63   (close to 7.78)
  
10 years from 06 is 2016    gives 0.25 light years from here  

star chart did not load for me    sooooo can one connect a circuitous or cyclical route from Orion via Pleiades to Cass to Leo and where would it lead to past leo to somewhere 0.25 ly away?


edit    Session 06 September 2006 –

   
    Q: (L) Where do you transmit through?
   
    A: U have been through a test. Getting close to Leo. Cassiopaea still reigns.
       


ahh just realized the C s where not quite "in " leo in 06  that may throw my shonky calulations out  lol

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Ana:

--- Quote from: Herakles on October 29, 2010, 06:02:52 PM ---What is that factor, in other words, that might or will lead to the onset of the Wave, considering it is real and does occur? 

Speed or distance cannot cause delay, can they?

--- End quote ---

How about awareness?

Herakles:
Sounds good to me Ana.   :)

I definitely think awareness is a factor, but still there are gaps . . . .  :huh:

For instance, awareness of what and by whom?  "Our" awareness?  The awareness of the entire cosmos?  The awareness of the C's and other transient passengers riding the wave?

On and on . . . which I guess is why it is good that, as the C's said, there is no point!  LOL.

When the awareness of the planet earth is sufficiently prepared, THEN the Wave "hits"?  Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm...

For that matter, awareness or consciousness?  Linguistically they indicate different "states".

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