How/what would you tell your children about 4D STS?

[D]

Perhaps this topic has been discussed on the forum somewhere before and I just can't find it, if it has please let me know.

So… I’ve been mulling over a few thoughts in my head regarding this excerpt in session # 940716

Q: (L) Bob Lazar referred to the fact that aliens supposedly refer to humans as containers. What does this mean?
A: Storage for later use.
Q: (L) Used for what?
A: 94 per cent.
Q: (L) 94 per cent of what?
A: Of all population.
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: All are containers; 94 per cent will be used.
Q: (L) Used for what?
A: Consumption.
Q: (L) You mean eaten?
A: Total consumption.
Q: (L) What do you mean by consumption? Ingested?
A: Consumed for ingredients.
Q: (L) Ingredients for what?
A: New race. Important. 13 years approximately when project will be finished.
Q: (L) Why are humans consumed?
A: They are used for parts.
Q: (L) We don't understand. How can humans be used for parts?
A: Reprototype. The Vats exist. Missing persons often go there and especially missing children.
Q: (L) Do we have any protection?
A: Some.
Q: (L) How can we protect ourselves and our children?
A: Inform them. Don't hide the truth from children.
Q: (L) How does truth protect us?
A: Awareness protects. Ignorance endangers.
Q: (L) Why tell children such horrible things?
A: They need to know.

So.. I was thinking in my head how would one tell their kids about aliens and that they are food? Let’s assume the child is as young as 5-7 years of age and has seen T.V. shows about aliens or anything of a sort that peek her/his curiosity about aliens. He/she asks you (the parent) “mommy/daddy, do you believe in aliens?” You say, “yes”
They say “really? Are they like E.T? are they our friends?”
You say “well hun, just like there are good people and bad people, there are good aliens and bad aliens. Some are good and some are bad and those bad ones, we have to watch out for because they have the power to eat you, just as we eat animals.”

 That’s a really heavy thing to expose a child to. And let’s say you do tell your child this fact of life, but how can you make sure your child doesn’t go and tell that to his friends in school/day care or whatever. So that he/she would not violate other kid’s free-will. Because if I know kids, they will want to share whatever they find out due to excitement. Like how some kids find out there is no santa, and even after their parents tell them not to tell that fact to other children, they still do.  And let’s say… the child does tell this to several of the kids at school and it becomes known around school that your child is saying these things and his fact of knowledge is well… you! So if the teacher asks where did you learn this from? And he says my mom or dad. And you get a call from the school and soon enough social services is coming to your house to see if your living situation is ok for the child. Now I know my mind might be running away with me here, but I know that the system is capable  of anything, especially when it comes down to keeping people a sleep.

Ok- that was my original thought, the other thought I had was regarding this section of the above C’s transcript which I’ve read many times, but woah it kind of stuck out at me this time…
 

Q: (L) Bob Lazar referred to the fact that aliens supposedly refer to humans as containers. What does this mean?
A: Storage for later use.
Q: (L) Used for what?
A: 94 per cent.
Q: (L) 94 per cent of what?
A: Of all population.
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: All are containers; 94 per cent will be used.
Q: (L) Used for what?
A: Consumption.

Now, I may be WAY off but… if 6 % of people on the planet are essential psychopaths.. than that make 94% that’s not, right?
So, in the above the C's say,  94 %  will be used for consumption, which makes me think .. no wonder the PTB want as many psychos as possible on Earth, because they think if more people are psychos they won’t be consumed?

Just some thoughts I'd like some input on, thanks group!

[truth seeker]

Hi Deedlet,

There are two threads that may be helpful to you:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12634.105  - After the second post.

and

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=5732.0

[Tigersoap]

I don't know it this has already been mentionned but I think that the story little red riding hood has great potential to start learning that apparences are deiciving, it works for psychopath and the larger reality osit.

[alphonse]

Hi Deedlet

I also found these threads very helpful when I was thinking along the same lines.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3113.0
(The effect of the Wave/4th D transition on children ?)

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13106.0
(Knowledge is very difficult to handle)

That’s a really heavy thing to expose a child to. And let’s say you do tell your child this fact of life, but how can you make sure your child doesn’t go and tell that to his friends in school/day care or whatever. So that he/she would not violate other kid’s free-will. Because if I know kids, they will want to share whatever they find out due to excitement. Like how some kids find out there is no santa, and even after their parents tell them not to tell that fact to other children, they still do.  And let’s say… the child does tell this to several of the kids at school and it becomes known around school that your child is saying these things and his fact of knowledge is well… you! So if the teacher asks where did you learn this from? And he says my mom or dad. And you get a call from the school and soon enough social services is coming to your house to see if your living situation is ok for the child. Now I know my mind might be running away with me here, but I know that the system is capable  of anything, especially when it comes down to keeping people a sleep.

With regard to warning or alerting children, without scaring the very bejeesus out of them or potentially making stand out at school, warning them of the dangers we are discovering can be a gradual process.

For example I  would hope that most parents  don't jump in with the full facts-of-life in detail about things like "how babies are made" at too early an age for example. More recently in our house, the issue of sleep-overs at their  friends houses meant that we needed to find a way to warn the children, or at least make them aware, that some adults can pose a threat to children, but in way that again did not frighten the life out of them. If it would help, I would be happy to give you some examples of how we have handled things so far, I by no means claim that we did it particularly well, or that it was any "model" to be followed as I imagine different advice worls for different children, but I hope it did the trick for the two of our kids that I chatted to about it.

As Tigersoap mentioned stories are great too for providing analogies and making comparisons, Red Riding Hood being a perfect example.

I hope you find the threads useful, worrying about children can be an easy habit to develop, but if that worry is the precursor to thinking about ways of DOing things that actually help them, than it is not wasted time. IMHO

[Smallwood]

With a child of 5-7 I probably would want to avoid answering the question altogether. Maybe when they were 10-14 I would explain (given that they first asked me about it) that in life everything feeds on lower lifeforms and is in turn fed on by something even larger, and that a human being is not an exception in that regard. I would try to make sure that they understood that even if it sounded terrifying and unfortunate, it was still a natural thing to happen and that it needs to happen only for as long as it needs to; in other words, only so long that we have learned not to be food anymore.

I think it would be a really bad idea to expose someone to the idea of aliens eating humans if they weren't at the stage where they can atleast begin to comprehend the possibility of a way out of the situation. FWIW.

[D]

Thanks for all of your responses! I have a lot of reading to do, so I will respond accordingly once I have read the recommended threads.

More recently in our house, the issue of sleep-overs at their  friends houses meant that we needed to find a way to warn the children, or at least make them aware, that some adults can pose a threat to children, but in way that again did not frighten the life out of them. If it would help, I would be happy to give you some examples of how we have handled things so far, I by no means claim that we did it particularly well, or that it was any "model" to be followed as I imagine different advice worls for different children, but I hope it did the trick for the two of our kids that I chatted to about it.

Thanks Al, I would love to hear some of your examples.

As Tigersoap mentioned stories are great too for providing analogies and making comparisons, Red Riding Hood being a perfect example.

I understand, and I agree with this process if it is to introduce the idea of psychopathy to children. However, I was strictly thinking of 4D STS attacks/consumption (in extreme cases). Because the C's said "They need to know!" Personally I find introducing the idea of psychopathy much easier than higher density beings eating you.. but I can imagine how you could lead the lesson of "don't accept candy from strangers", "or never go anywhere/talk to strangers" to psychopathy very gradually of course. And yes the wolf in little red riding hood is a perfect example of predators that hide in familiar environments. But my way of thinking was more 4D attacks than 3D fwiw.

I hope you find the threads useful, worrying about children can be an easy habit to develop, but if that worry is the precursor to thinking about ways of DOing things that actually help them, than it is not wasted time. IMHO

I understand and agree with you. I don't have children of my own (yet) but I always wonder if i did, what I would say to them. I want to try and be as un-narcissistic as possible when raising my children so that they have a chance to be 'normal', if that makes sense.  So of course it always helps to hear from actual parents and their experience in raising their children. I believe being a good parent is one of the most ultimate feats a human can achieve, and have made it my goal to achieve if I am ever to become a mother.

Again, thank you all for your input and I'll write more when I have read some of the very interesting/useful information in the threads recommended.

[LoveAndLight]

Personally I think it would be best if we tell children the truth in small doses. Not to much that we inflict psychology damage, but not to little that we leave them clueless. The brainwashing starts at a very young age, so I think it would be best to start teaching are children at a young age so they don't become brainwashed. Just my opinion on the issue.

[Starlight]

Hi Deedlet,

To tell you the truth this particular topic has been on my mind for a while. I have three children and are contemplating on how to actually telling them that we are food.  It is even more difficult as we are living in a muslim country and they are expected to behave in certain ways.  For if not, they will be subjected to so many other "social reform" by their relatives, friends, teachers and society around them. 

I don't know if what we are doing is correct, but right now we are educating them more on psychological issues like psychopathy and narcsissism or at least trying to.  And we are not going to tell them on us being food for the aliens and the lizards for a time being until they are out of school at least.  But at the same time we are exposing them about the existence of aliens.  I do not know if this is enough.

Advise and suggestions would be great!!

[Kesdjan]

So.. I was thinking in my head how would one tell their kids about aliens and that they are food? Let’s assume the child is as young as 5-7 years of age and has seen T.V. shows about aliens or anything of a sort that peek her/his curiosity about aliens. He/she asks you (the parent) “mommy/daddy, do you believe in aliens?” You say, “yes”
They say “really? Are they like E.T? are they our friends?”
You say “well hun, just like there are good people and bad people, there are good aliens and bad aliens. Some are good and some are bad and those bad ones, we have to watch out for because they have the power to eat you, just as we eat animals.”

Hi Deedlet,

If you don't know for a fact that "there are good aliens and bad aliens", why would you tell a child that? In general, I think that if a child asks you "do you believe X", you shouldn't answer yes or no, but should ask them "what do you think" and try to get them to think about different possibilities. Maybe a good idea would be to talk about predators and prey in nature as a general principle, and then you can springboard into a discussion of psychopathy (not necessarily by name) and the concept of aliens as predators. Just as some animals are predators and some are prey, so too must aliens (if they exist) be predators and prey. Some human beings are also predators. And the unifying concept is that predators naturally attempt to decieve their prey, but if you use your mind, you can't be tricked. Of course, that's exactly what "The Red Riding Hood" illustrates, but its always good to talk about the underlying themes. Actually, this is sort of what the C's/RA did with teaching the concept of "stsness" so that we could "read the signs" and see where it applies in any situation- only later did they talk about psychopathy and 4D STS, osit.

[alphonse]

Hi Deedlet,

Sorry for delay in reply, but haven’t been on the forum for a few days.

With regard to issues and children:

For example, they get invited to stay with friends sometimes and we felt we needed to help them be aware of potential threats-  they recently went together to the same house ( they are 8 and 10) and my chat to them went something like this – “ boys, you do realise don’t you, that when you are at a friends house, no grown-ups are allowed to see you getting changed or  see you with nothing on or anything like that don’t you ” they both said that yes,  of course they knew that.
I continued “ and they must not touch yer bum or your privates or smack you or anything, do you understand?” to which they giggled a bit and said yes dad – we know”  I got the feeling they thought I was a bit ‘simple’ because it all appeared obvious to them as basic common sense, but my wife and I felt it necessary to make sure they were aware of appropriate and inappropriate behaviour.  We also got them to memorise the home phone number. Other issues have come up from time to time, but that is just one of example.

Our  10 year old once said to me that "I get a bit scared and worried about all the aliens and stuff" I guess he overhearing my wife and I chatting, and I told him he could ask me whatever he liked about that. He said "nah..it's ok" so I left it at that not to push him.

Our 8 year old, can be quite thoughtful, on a Long walk this summer, I was lagging behind the others because I am recovering from a nasty leg injury, and he kept me company, walking with me. His sweet voiced questions ranged from  “If God created the Universe who created God” and evolved in to “ who am I and why am I on earth” The conversation filled 2 hours of walking, and answered questions for both of us!

Only this weekend he asked his mum, what the Wave Books were about. She replied that they were about the Universe and how to survive it. On the way to school today, he asked if he could borrow them when he was older.

It is very hard indeed, knowing what to say, but as LoveAndLight said:

Personally I think it would be best if we tell children the truth in small doses. Not to much that we inflict psychology damage, but not to little that we leave them clueless. The brainwashing starts at a very young age, so I think it would be best to start teaching are children at a young age so they don't become brainwashed. Just my opinion on the issue.

[bjorn]

I guess, telling your children from a very early age to advice them to always to try to keep on open mind for everything. To not to get fixed on certain idea’ That our world is far from being explored. And if you wanna know ‘the truth’ even a little. Nobody is going to tell you. You have to find it out for yourself.

The only thing others can do for you is advicing in this, nothing else.

Since I think if you are finding out ‘the truth’ or working towards a STO profile and you have children. 4STS will also and maybe even especially target your children or any of your loved ones. Trying to stop you.

When they are at a age when they can somehow healthy deal with the material what is shared here. Advicing them to read ‘the wave’ is something you can’t go around with.

But before introducing them with the ‘hyperdimensional threat’ Informing them with strictly the dangers what lies in 3D, like psychopaths would be a better approach.

[Black Swan]

As others have mentioned, stories and folktales are good way to introduce children to these ideas. Some further suggestions can be found in this thread as well.

[Alana]

As others have mentioned, stories and folktales are good way to introduce children to these ideas. Some further suggestions can be found in this  thread as well.

I would suggest the old times classic Hansel and Gretel too. I use it in my groups with children and we have discussions on how the evil witch who eats children went to such an extent as to built that house out of sugar, candies, cake and chocolate in order to lure the little ones into her trap. This can be an excellent example to use to convince children to follow the anti-candida diet too 

[Michael Martin]

This topic and subsequent responses reminded me of one of Laura's recent posts:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13795.msg106339#msg106339

I was thinking that we, as individuals who would be more knowledgeable, would be the 'shaman' to our children.  The 'dramatization' that Laura describes would be the translation of what we know to the level of our children's dictionary.

Stories like Little Red Riding Hood and other folktales as the others mentioned would be a good way to break into the topic without much psychological trauma.
'Feeding' in these stories is illustrated as harm to the physical form, which would an easier idea to grasp for a child than say "energy draining via negative emotion".

If they're a bit older and wouldn't be tormented much with nightmares (teens maybe), and if you still turn on the television, a re-make of the old sci-fi series "V", is set to premier this November 3rd (_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307824/).

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I was thinking that it would be hard to translate what we know into terms they might understand when we, who have encountered the C's and Laura's as adults, took quite some time before we could understand and grok the lessons.
But then again, we've been burdened with years of family, cultural, religious, etc. programming which we had to exert effort to break free from.  For our children, it might be easier for them to grasp the lessons because they've had less programming than we did...

(I just read through the responses again and what I've written so far LoveAndLight already stated succintly.)

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Maybe you could use the analogy of 3D interacting with 2D to introduce the topic of 4D feeding on 3D?
Asking them where they think their food comes from?
"Do you know how the burger you're eating was made?"  or "Do you know how to make a burger?"
Then make a game of it and see how far your child could trace the origin of each component of the burger?

I don't have the relevant C's transcript right now but I remember that in one of the sessions, the 3D-2D interaction (3D growing/raising 2D for food) analogy was used by the C's to illustrate the 4D-3D interaction...

[Tree]

Thanks for this thread!!!  My little one is 3 and isn't quite ready for information this heavy yet.  But what an important topic for parents!  I will be brewing up stories to teach him to be wary of what predators may be lurking.  I'll also be looking for children stories that already address this, such as Little Red Riding Hood and Hanzel & Grettel.  I've noticed that newer books and stories absolutely avoid any nuance of danger or ill-fated possibilities for its characters.

Also, for starters, we've been teaching him about the food chain of nature....cats eat mice, we eat chicken, whales eat seals, etc. 

Tree