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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2009, 10:59:09 PM »
So beautiful, very good job! I want the MP3!!  :thup:


today's your lucky day, here it is:
The audio quality is increased a bit, so the strings don't sound compressed, and so that you get the full range of notes right down to the deep ones with a little more clarity:

http://www.a-tangled-web.net/audio/Abstract-Improvises.mp3  (10.6 mb)

I've also got the whole thing saved as a 'GarageBand' file, at full audio resolution, with the strings and guitar on separate stereo tracks, should anyone wish to add their creative spark (but of course, that is a much larger file).


That is sooo awesome! Thank you!!!  :clap: :rockon:
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2009, 11:26:54 PM »
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It would seem that there will be no shortage of great FOTCM music to listen to.

Nope!  I intend to try and write another piece today...we'll see what becomes of it! 

Thank you all for your compliments to myself and nomad, some of you all seem to really enjoy it! 

I might try a piece where i can put the POTS somewhere under the mix, I think that will be cool. 

Oh, and also, coming soon:  instructional guitar videos.   :cool2:  :)
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For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
-Sun Tzu

Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2009, 11:32:55 PM »
It's a undoubtedly great piece of work!!!

Thank you two for sharing!
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2009, 04:48:11 AM »
that was very lovely and wonderful to listen to maybe we can all create a project together just for fun!

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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2009, 04:51:40 AM »
You guys did a wonderful job! :thup: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I wish you can compose more and share it with us!

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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2009, 05:04:18 AM »
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Sampling Laura speaking out the words to POTS came to mind as something that might be really cool.   

perhaps i could give it a shot???  although, there is music behind POTS on the EE audio, yes?  it may conflict with the key. 

Ahh yeah, I forgot about that.  I'd started doing the POTS w/o the audio so I haven't listened to it for awhile.  Maybe there are some good samples on the Knowledge and Being video?  I'd have to listen to it again with that mindset of finding sample material. 
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2009, 06:25:32 AM »
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Sampling Laura speaking out the words to POTS came to mind as something that might be really cool.   
perhaps i could give it a shot???  although, there is music behind POTS on the EE audio, yes?  it may conflict with the key. 

Ahh yeah, I forgot about that.  I'd started doing the POTS w/o the audio so I haven't listened to it for awhile.  Maybe there are some good samples on the Knowledge and Being video?  I'd have to listen to it again with that mindset of finding sample material. 

I thought the same but then it also occurred to me that it would be best to get permission from Laura first before using any samples of her voice. I was thinking she and those people that are collaborating with her closely might already planning stuff with her voice and maybe they have got some projects in the works already. I would be sensitive about interfering, I suppose.

I am enjoying your collaboration!


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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2009, 02:29:40 AM »

I thought the same but then it also occurred to me that it would be best to get permission from Laura first before using any samples of her voice. I was thinking she and those people that are collaborating with her closely might already planning stuff with her voice and maybe they have got some projects in the works already. I would be sensitive about interfering, I suppose.

I am enjoying your collaboration!


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Breton,

One should definitely get approval of the individual being sampled.  However, finding a sample is usually the first step.  As you pointed out though, if there are others planning a project along these lines, it would be good to know.  That would probably the be the first thing to find out in this case. 

Again, this is just a thought for others, I'm not equipped anymore to do projects along these lines.

Ryan
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2009, 02:18:21 AM »
Wow, i like it :rockon:!
 
I picked up my guitar and tried to improvise along! :D

also i want to share this that was posted a long time ago in the forum and i found it simply amazing, didn't get as much attention but i figured this would be a great opportunity to re-look at it, here's the link:
Music i made by Myth of Myself

Great work, and by the way im a graphic artist, should the cass band ever need one :)

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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2009, 06:15:28 AM »
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and by the way im a graphic artist, should the cass band ever need one

Duuuuuuude!  You could totally design an album cover or something.  We could get together on an album, maybe.  Assuming the participants will
have sufficient time on the hands.  I'm just now wondering how many songs could we write?  Could we have solo pieces?  Is there a particular style we could do?
I'm just thinking that this will eventually lead to enough music for an album anyway???? :)
"if anything is anything, then everything is everything."  -miyamoto musashi

It is the greatest mistake to think that man is always one and the same. A man is never the same for long. He is continually changing. He seldom remains the same even for half an hour.
G. I. Gurdjieff

For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
-Sun Tzu

Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2009, 10:01:31 AM »
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and by the way im a graphic artist, should the cass band ever need one

Duuuuuuude!  You could totally design an album cover or something.  We could get together on an album, maybe.  Assuming the participants will
have sufficient time on the hands.  I'm just now wondering how many songs could we write?  Could we have solo pieces?  Is there a particular style we could do?
I'm just thinking that this will eventually lead to enough music for an album anyway???? :)

sounds like we have the beginnings of a 'virtual band'  :)
as to the musical style, I guess we just 'do it' and see what happens.
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2009, 05:23:13 PM »
Duuuuuuude!  You could totally design an album cover or something.  We could get together on an album, maybe.  Assuming the participants will
have sufficient time on the hands.  I'm just now wondering how many songs could we write?  Could we have solo pieces?  Is there a particular style we could do?
I'm just thinking that this will eventually lead to enough music for an album anyway???? :)

FWIW,

I listened to the created song, while meditating and doing the EE program and it has been a pleasure.

also i want to share this that was posted a long time ago in the forum and i found it simply amazing, didn't get as much attention but i figured this would be a great opportunity to re-look at it, here's the link:
Music i made by Myth of Myself

I rembered it, thanks for linkin to it again.

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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2009, 07:12:17 PM »
I'd like to help, I'm a muso (guitar/vocals/keys/programming), im a film maker too..have made around 5 music video's :)
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Added some narration to your works -- Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2009, 08:32:41 PM »
Hello Abstract, Nomad  - and all!

I picked from a hat, some of my favourite words of wisdom that I got from reading the work on this site, and added them to your music.

I did this mainly for myself. I have suddenly had very busy fall, where my responsibilities at work increased. Also the family takes a lot of time with 3 kids at early school age and a spouse now taking university classes. Consequently, I noticed the pressure of the General Law growing: my thoughts get too wrapped up in these mundane things and I can easily forget to observe myself, think about esoteric work on the self, and perhaps even to begin once again to identify with my tasks and responsibilities.

To counter this I have tried to remember to say the Prayer of the Soul from time to time, quite often while driving to work or back. I can listen a bit to the meditation portion while driving too, as it is a reminder, to hear Laura's voice. It don't think it is dangerous because I am not actually meditating.

However I find that I sort of don't want to overdo it on the POTS. Then the idea flashed in my mind: hey, I could record some choice quotes from the site and play them on my mp3 player when I need!

The purpose of these recordings is to create some kind of "alarm clock" as an aid to fight against falling back to sleep in the General Law.

Then a further idea occurred to me: why not incorporate it into some music made by my fellow forum members. It seems so appropriate: they are engaged in such similar work of trying to "wake up to the objective reality", and see and clean their own machines! Besides, musically I have not developed any skill at all, so I am forced to  "use" the developed musical skills of others.

Further, I thought why not share it on the forum? I tried to be considerate, and make as clean recordings as I could with my limited equipment. I also could use some good (critical!) feedback from the members about how I succeeded (or not). Feedback could help me develop. No one should worry about my feelings - I am trying not to identify with any of my work - so please lay it on the line - the good the bad and the ugly!

You can download the 3 selections I made below. The first one is based on Abstract and Nomad collaboration, and the second one is based on Mkrnhr's guitar playing I liked earlier, and he posted on this forum. The third is the first initiation, and I did not have any better idea than to put some piano behind it.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tmn5umynw4m/Abstract-Improvises_nomad_quotes.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nn3njziyygj/mkrnhr_guitar_quotes_added.mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywiz0mwxwml/First_Initiation_pianobackground.mp3
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Re: Music Collaboration
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2009, 08:36:00 PM »
Here is some more background to my thinking that prompted me to make these recordings, that I wrote in my journal early in Fall 2009:

Quote from: my journal


This world, this matrix control system, wants humanity to be asleep. This condition is living in an illusion or a lie. People who become disillusioned with a dream that they have been living in, mostly move to another dream that seems better. They believe that they have woken up. However they are just as fast asleep. They may have learned some lessons and may have gotten some soul growth, possibly, and that is all. It is my opinion at the moment, that such soul growth is quite slow. Sometimes the illusion leads one to act in ways against the soul's nature and chosen path, and in effect, is detrimental for soul growth in the long term. Thus the matter can be of some concern, beyond the present life into other lives, even if one can be reasonably assured that traditional religious depictions of a eternal life in a Heaven or Hell are fabrications created for the purpose of fear and control.

So the General Law, (Mouravieff?) is ever present and ready to put humans back to sleep, should they ever start down the road to objectivity. There are human beings who do suspect that the world is not what it seems. Like the movie The Matrix, where everyone is plugged into a computer system with a wire in the back of their neck, the matrix is ok with people researching and learning new things as long as the knowledge about the real condition is not exposed very widely. True knowledge is dangerous. True knowledge spread widely is the most dangerous thing to the matrix.

Gurdjieff talked about needing alarm clocks to keep waking up. He talked about constantly inventing new alarm clocks because we will get accustomed to the old ones. He suggested that a group of people work together to make new alarm clocks for each other. He talked about having a group, to help each other stay awake.

So the work here is a collection of quotes, that are rich with meaning that can be used for this.

They can be pulled out when the General Law is putting one to sleep and one is being sucked into illusions that are ready to trap us by using our lifetime of programming.

Quote from: In Search Of The Miraculous by Ouspensky, quoting Gurdjieff

"There is also the possibility of being awakened by mechanical means. A man may be awakened by an alarm clock. But the trouble is that a man gets accustomed to the alarm clock far too quickly, he ceases to hear it. Many alarm clocks are necessary and always new ones. Otherwise a man must surround himself with alarm clocks which will prevent him sleeping. But here again there are certain difficulties. Alarm clocks must be wound up; in order to wind them up one must remember about them; in order to remember one must wake up often. But what is still worse, a man gets used to all alarm clocks and after a certain time he only  sleeps  the  better  for  them.  Therefore alarm clocks must be constantly changed, new ones must be continually invented. In the course of time this may help a man to awaken. But there is very little chance of a man doing all the work of winding up, inventing, and changing clocks all by himself, without outside help. It is much more likely that he will begin this work and that it will afterwards pass into sleep, and in sleep he will dream of inventing alarm clocks, of winding them up and changing them, and simply sleep all the sounder for it. "Therefore,  in order to awaken, a combination of efforts is needed. It is necessary that somebody should wake "the man up; it  is necessary  that somebody should  look after  the man  who  wakes  him;  it  is necessary to have alarm clocks and it is also necessary continually to invent new alarm clocks.

"But  in  order to achieve all this and to obtain results a certain number of people must work together.

"One man can do nothing.



What follows is the information about each of the three selections and the quotations.



Abstract-Improvises_nomad_quotes.mp3


Background music: collaboration between two members of the forum, Abstract, Nomad, in Nov 2009

Quotes in order of appearance:

1. Where you are is not important. Who you are is and also what you see.
[Quote by C's]

2. All there is is lessons. This is one infinite school. There is no other reason for anything to exist. Even inanimate matter learns it is all an "Illusion." Each individual possesses all of creation within their minds.
[Quote by C's]

3.Cut the quote and put rest of the quote started above:
Now, contemplate for a moment. Each soul is all powerful and can create or destroy all existence if [it] knows how. You and us and all others are interconnected by our mutual possession of all there is. You may create alternative universes if you wish and dwell within.

4. Life is religion.
Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God.
Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation.
Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the worlds will cease.
They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past."
People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."
[Quote by C's]

5.  ....the most important principles that the Cassiopaeans have given us are Free Will and Knowledge Protects.  These two concepts are inseparable.  The more knowledge you have, the more awareness you have; and the more awareness you have, the more Free will you have as to whether or not you will receive and disseminate lies or truth.  With increase of knowledge, there CAN be an increase in awareness, but not always.  A person can have a great deal of knowledge, but since he defines what he knows with the Juvenile Dictionary, he only can have Juvenile Awareness.
[Quote by LKJ - http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/ascension2.htm ]

6. Pretend that you have an advanced security system around your brain, and that every idea that wants to come in is a potential threat to your thinking. Before you let that idea in, you need to search it and x-ray it and ask it a lot of questions. Only when you are certain it is not dangerous, then you can let it in. But once it is in, consider it a guest, one who could be asked to leave at any time.
[quote by Galahad on forum]

7. Knowledge protects. "Knowledge application generates energy, which, in turn, generates light."
[Quote by C's]

8. There is no free lunch in the Universe and if you think there is, then you’re lunch.
[Quote by LKJ]
NOTE: for fun, and to kind of wrap up the selection, I lowered the pitch on this one on a sliding scale, so the voice gets deeper and deeper until the end. Maybe it was stupid. But I felt like doing it.


mkrnhr_guitar_quotes_added.mp3


Background Music: Guitar playing by Cass Forum member Mkrnhr 04:18

NOTE about the voice recording: these have heavy equalization applied so the voice has less presence and maybe sounds a bit like it is coming from an AM radio. This was intentional. My brother kind of critisized that it sounds like I am speaking from inside a can, but I left it alone because, I kinda liked it. Maybe someone else can comment.

Quotes in order of appearance:

1. ... the universe is merely a school.  And, a school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists. There is no other reason.
[Quote by C's] 

2. ...Forevermore, the human race, will be poisoned by the very same problem which is reflected in several different ways: one is always seeking the truth through one pathway instead of seeking it through a myriad of pathways; and also believing in simplistic answers to very complex issues and questions.
[Quote by C's]

3."Access to knowledge requires courage, as it demands a special psychological effort from the Seeker: he has to accept the postulate that "the truth is out there, but it is very difficult - if not impossible - to find," while at the same time disregarding his own ideas and personal beliefs."
[By LKJ from http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/ascension2.htm ]

4."Wild Ways teaches people when not to act 'nice' about protecting their souls.  The instinctive nature knows that being 'sweet' in these instances only makes the predator smile.  When the soul is being threatened, it is not only acceptable to draw the line and mean it, it is required.  ..."
From Pinkola-Estes
[This is in many places, but I got this from http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14410.msg112027#msg112027 Re: Eíriú-Eolas - Guide/FAQ]



First_Initiation_pianobackground.mp3



The Quote

Quote from: Salzmann quote, important Gurdjieff principle

The First Initiation

You will see that in life you receive exactly what you give. Your life is  the mirror of what you are. It is in your image. You are passive, blind,  demanding. You take all, you accept all, without feeling any obligation.  Your attitude toward the world and toward life is the attitude of one who  has the right to make demands and to take, who has no need to pay or to  earn. You believe that all things are your due, simply because it is you!  All your blindness is there! ... 

You live exclusively according to "I like" or "I don't like," you have no  appreciation except for yourself. You recognize nothing above  you-theoretically, logically, perhaps, but actually no. That is why you are  demanding and continue to believe that everything is cheap and that you have  enough in your pocket to buy everything you like. You recognize nothing  above you, either outside yourself or inside. That is why, I repeat, you  have no measure and live passively according to your likes and dislikes.   

Yes, your "appreciation of yourself" blinds you. It is the biggest obstacle  to a new life. You must be able to get over this obstacle, this threshold,  before going further. 

This test divides men into two kinds: the "wheat" and the "chaff." No matter  how intelligent, how gifted, how brilliant a man may be, if he does not  change his appreciation of himself, there will be no hope for an inner  development, for a work toward self-knowledge, for a true becoming. He will  remain such as he is all his life. 

The first requirement, the first condition, the first test for one who  wishes to work on himself is to change his appreciation of himself. He must  not imagine, not simply believe or think, but see things in himself which he  has never seen before, see them actually. His appreciation will never be  able to change as long as he sees nothing in himself. And in order to see,  he must learn to see; this is the first initiation of man into self-  knowledge.   

...  If he sees one time he can see a second time, and if that continues he  will no longer be able not to see. This is the state to be looked for, it is  the aim of our observation; it is from there that the true wish will be  born, the irresistible wish to become: from cold we shall become warm,  vibrant; we shall be touched by our reality.   

Today we have nothing but the illusion of what we are. We think too highly  of ourselves. We do not respect ourselves. In order to respect myself, I  have to recognize a part in myself which is above the other parts, and my  attitude toward this part should bear witness to the respect that I have for  it. In this way I shall respect myself. And my relations with others will be  governed by the same respect.   

You must understand that all the other measures-talent, education, culture,  genius-are changing measures, measures of detail. The only exact measure,  the only unchanging, objective real measure is the measure of inner vision.  I see-I see myself-by this, you have measured. With one higher real part,  you have measured another lower part, also real. And this measure, defining  by itself the role of each part, will lead you to respect for yourself.   

But you will see that it is not easy. And it is not cheap. You must pay  dearly. For bad payers, lazy people, parasites, no hope. You must pay, pay a  lot, and pay immediately, pay in advance. Pay with yourself. By sincere,  conscientious, disinterested efforts. The more you are prepared to pay  without economizing, without cheating, without any falsification, the more  you will receive. And from that time on you will become acquainted with your  nature. And you will see all the tricks, all the dishonesties that your  nature resorts to in order to avoid paying hard cash. Because you have to  pay with your ready-made theories, with your rooted convictions, with your  prejudices, your conventions, your "I like" and "I don't like." Without  bargaining, honestly, without pretending. Trying "sincerely" to see as you  offer your counterfeit money.   

Try for a moment to accept the idea that you are not what you believe  yourself to be, that you overestimate yourself, in fact that you lie to  yourself. That you always lie to yourself every moment, all day, all your  life. That this lying rules you to such an extent that you cannot control it  any more. You are the prey of lying. You lie, everywhere. Your relations  with others-lies. The upbringing you give, the conventions-lies. Your  teaching-lies. Your theories, your art-lies. Your social life, your family  life-lies. And what you think of yourself-lies also.   

But you never stop yourself in what you are doing or in what you are saying  because you believe in yourself. You must stop inwardly and observe. Observe  without preconceptions, accepting for a time this idea of lying. And if you  observe in this way, paying with yourself, without self-pity, giving up all  your supposed riches for a moment of reality, perhaps you will suddenly see  something you have never before seen in yourself until this day. 

You will see that you are different from what you think you are. 

You will see that you are two. 

One who is not, but takes the place and plays the role of the other. And one  who is, yet so weak, so insubstantial, that he no sooner appears than he  immediately disappears. He cannot endure lies. The least lie makes him faint  away. He does not struggle, he does not resist, he is defeated in advance.  Learn to look until you have seen the difference between your two natures,  until you have seen the lies, the deception in yourself. When you have seen   your two natures, that day, in yourself, the truth will be born.

Background music:


Artist: Matti Paalanen
Uses name "Frozen Silence" on jamendo.com
Helsinki, Finland
or see address:
http://www.mikseri.net/artists/?id=48150

He distributed his music under creative commons license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
In short:
You can copy, distribute, advertise and play this album as long as you:
-Give credit to the artist
-Don't use this album for commercial purposes
-Distribute all derivative works under the same license

1.Above_and_Below.mp3 --3m:27s
2.Glass.mp3 --6m:55s

NOTE: to make the first initiation sound a bit like someone lecturing in one room, while someone softly played the piano in a hall beside the room, I added a certain amount of reverb just to the music (not the narration) that would be suitable to emulate a small church or hall.


Technical recording and mixing notes:


I include some notes because I found the process of doing this was a learning experience.
Perhaps there are others on the forum that could give me some more tips in help me out in my recording.
Perhaps someone considering doing what I did might like to get some tips on how they might do it themselves.

1. Tried to use a decent microphone. I used a Samson Q1U USB mic, suitable for podcasting (supposedly). It was a choice I made a couple of years ago, and was an alternative to buying a professional XLR mic which then would require quality microphone preamp with a USB computer interface.
2. Put a pop filter in front of mic. (I made one from a stocking!).
3. Try to reduce room reflections. I eventually made a padded box to put the microphone stand in, so as to reduce reflections, but it does not work perfectly. I might improve on that eventually.
4. Effects: I think that it is true LESS is MORE.  In general, one should not overuse audio effects and filters. Nevertheless, this is what I decided upon: I applied noise reduction to clean up the signal, and compression to reduce the difference between peaks and soft sounds of the narration. Further I applied equalization to reduce the booming of the low frequencies, raise some of the higher frequencies (usually only about 3dB more) to make it more "brighter", and eliminate unneeded high frequencies above the useful voice spectrum.
5. Used Audacity 1.3.9beta (open source) and mixed the sound tracks with an eye on reducing volume on the music when necessary to keep the narration audible. I tried another program (TrakAxPC) for Mkrnhr's selection and I found could not adjust the volume as flexibly.
6. I tried to find someone who speaks English fluently. I am the only one (a Canadian) that I know in my immediate vicinity so I did the recording myself. Besides, it is easier to arrange recording sessions with myself than with someone else. I was a little bit unsure about using my own voice, but it turned out that when I listened to it, I concentrated on the content and I forgot it was my voice. If I do it more, I could also try to improve my technique too, like learn what is the proper pace and inflection, so it is easier to listen to. I see that it all takes work and practise. There is no free lunch in the universe...


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