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Telepathy
Buddy:
I had read the latest posts in the thread about Ingo Swann's book "Penetration". I didn't have anything relevant to contribute, but I recalled back when I was researching Remote Viewing. I read about everything I could find from Ingo Swann's history up to Fred Gunn's now defunct website advocating a "paperless RV system". I even considered experimenting with bi-location, but I didn't have the 'feel' that the timing was right, so I never did.
At any rate, I then ran across related references to Gurdjieff's telepathic abilities and so just kept following the trail around to Rupert Sheldrake's work and the possible effects of infrasound on an individual.
I personally think exploring stuff like RV and telepathy as an independent subject would be a waste of time for me, at this point, except in terms of awareness of what people are up to on all societal levels. Having said that, though, I do believe that telepathy is not only possible, but WILL happen as a natural consequence of staying on course with our Work, and especially among those of us participating in this network, and will be based on some kind of convergence with objective reality.
Why do I think this? Because, it seems to me that there are too many impressions and information available in the environment that suggest this. And too many examples of "human jelled teams' whose synergistic output has been worth much more than the sum of its parts.
From: DeMarco and Lister, in "Peopleware":
--- Quote ---Once a team begins to jell, the probability of success goes up dramatically. The team can become almost unstoppable, a juggernaut for success. Managing these juggernaut teams is a real pleasure. You spend most of your time just getting obstacles out of their way, clearing the path so that bystanders don't get trampled underfoot. "Here they come, folks. Stand back and hold onto your hats." They don't need to be managed in the traditional sense, and they certainly don't need to be motivated.
DeMarco, Tom & Lister, Timothy
Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams
Dorset House
ISBN 0-932633-05-6
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So I went back and revisited the Tree of Life chapter of The Wave to re-read the concept of how it might be possible for a group of 3D individuals to function as a single 4D STO being. Then I gathered info I had on Rupert Sheldrake's "morphogenetic field concept" and added a bit more research to it.
I actually think Sheldrake is on to the deep structure of reality all around us in the seemingly "empty space" we see through.
In fact, I feel like the increasing synchronicities going on as well as the increasing awareness of synchronicities is likely some evidence of psychic connections growing between us and our environment (maybe?). It's like when you bring the ends of two live wires within close proximity and experience the sparking, arcing, and crackling as electricity jumps the 'gap' between them, like the gap-jumping that occurs in the neuron synapses.
So, this is just what was on my mind the last day or two and I thought I'd post it here in case anyone was interested in this stuff. Then, just as I was ready to copy all the research into my notepad, I was devastated! It was gone! Arghhh.
The text file has sat on my task bar for 24 hours + and thru many accesses, and just when I needed it, I couldn't find it anywhere!!!!
I searched my computer for 30 minutes with no luck. :headbash:
So anyway, I retraced my steps through my browser history and recreated everything the best I could. The only thing I couldn't re-locate was a live demonstration of the 'staring experiment' that I wanted to share.
Not that this is any big deal - just an exercise in intentional suffering, I suppose, in order to get back on track with something I wanted to do.
I'm splitting stuff up to make it easier to read and/or reference later, in case that's useful.
Buddy:
Just as a place to start:
--- Quote from: Racer_Unknown on April 04, 2008, 08:56:15 PM ---As an aside, last night I was watching together with some folks that DVD lecture with Ingo Swann I mentioned in one of my earlier posts: "To PSI or not to PSI" (http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=8559).
During the begining of his lecture, he states that the power structures who control the planet are at the forefront of keeping humans ignorant of their psi abilities. As if telepathy was the norm among humans, then, there could be no secrets... So Ingo is talking about a *conspiracy* against PSI phenomena being discovered by the "barbarians" (us).
Then, as you read in the article, Sheldrake is lecturing on "thought transference" (telepathy) - being possible by people looking into each other's eyes - and he gets STABBED...[David Edwards of Fresno, Calif., said Sheldrake had been talking about how thoughts can be transferred by staring into another's eyes. During the lecture in the main ballroom on La Fonda's second floor, an Asian man left the room and when he returned, he didn't take a seat but stood near the podium with his eyes closed like he was meditating, Edwards said.]
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--- Quote from: _http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/229626/a_new_way_of_seeing/index.html ---
A New Way of Seeing
One of the most impressive cases of telepathy on record, says Sheldrake, was researched by Sir Rudolph Peters, a Cambridge professor whom Sheldrake knew when he was a student. Peters and his colleagues tested a mother and her severely mentally retarded son whom she looked after and was very close to. The case had first come to light when the very poorly sighted boy had gone for an eye test and it was found that he was doing much better on the test than he ought to have done. When the ophthalmologist sent the boy's mother out of the room his ability to read the letters collapsed. It turned out that somehow he was reading the letters through his mother. She wasn't actually telling him the answers, but she was seeing the letters and he Was picking them up telepathically from her.
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Peters' team then set up a test whereby the mother and son were in different laboratories about five miles apart. They showed the mother a series of numbers and letters, and the child guessed them at a success rate whose probability would be a billion to one against if it were a matter of pure chance. It would seem that this was due to the intensity of the bond between mother and child, a bond that had developed because it was necessary for the child's survival.
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Sheldrake believes that the phenomena he observes can be explained by fields. Think first of one of the fields many people take for granted, every single day. When someone calls you on your mobile phone, you are connected through the electromagnetic field. Wherever you are at any moment, someone else can call you and you can pick up their voice and share a conversation with them. The field carrying your conversation is everywhere, which means that your conversation is everywhere. What this also means is that every other conversation being had on mobile phones is currently also in your room at this moment. Along with every radio channel and every TV picture. Somehow, there is a vast amount of information contained in the apparently empty air.
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So what of humans and other living beings? We are made of cells and molecules, all of which involve oscillations. Quantum physics talks of entanglement, whereby particles separated over a distance will still behave as if they were connected. Why then is it so hard for us to accept that, just possibly, we might be connected to each other in a comparable fashion?
'The existence of fields stretched out in space is testable,' says Sheldrake, 'because if you can separate parts of a system that are linked by what I call a "morphic field" then they should still be in communication, even if they are separate in the normal sense. When members of the group move apart, like wolves do when they go hunting and leave cubs in the den, the bonds between them are not broken; they are stretched, and this field connection between these separated parts of the group continues to link them. I think that's the basis of telepathy.'
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--- Quote from: _http://www.intuition.org/txt/sheldra1.htm ---The Intuition Network, A Thinking Allowed Television Underwriter, presents the following transcript from the series Thinking Allowed, Conversations On the Leading Edge of Knowledge and Discovery, with Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove.
A NEW SCIENCE OF LIFE with RUPERT SHELDRAKE, Ph.D.
SHELDRAKE: The hypothesis starts from the idea that the development of embryos -- the growth of a baby, for example, in the womb, or the growth of a tree from the seed -- that developmental biology depends on fields, organizing fields called morphic fields. The organization of behavior, like the instinct of a spider, for example, depends on similar morphic fields, organizing fields.
SHELDRAKE: Well, I think there are two processes at work. One is the principle of habit based on morphic fields. Through established patterns of activity, the more often they're repeated, they become more probable. So nature is essentially habit-forming, and all aspects of nature, I think, are based on the principle of habit. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that what we call the laws of nature are more like the habits of nature.
For example, at one time there were no bicycles. Now there are millions of them in the world, and at some stage somebody invented the bicycle. For the first time, the bicycle was made. For the first time, somebody rode a bicycle. Before that, there hadn't been a habit of bicycle riding. Now tens and hundreds of millions of people in the world have the habit of bicycle riding, and I think precisely because so many people have that habit, it's easier for everybody else to learn to ride bicycles, on average, by morphic resonance from this habitual activity.
MISHLOVE: In other words, there is now a morphic resonance, or morphic field, for bicycle making and bicycle riding.
SHELDRAKE: Yes.
MISHLOVE: And it must embrace the whole planet in a way that didn't exist at one time.
SHELDRAKE: Yes...
...by the beginning of the nineteenth century, many people said, well, we can get rid of this kind of god, and just have a mechanical universe without God. And the basis of the controversies has really been rooted in this mechanistic world view. If we go back to the idea of nature as a living organism, the whole of nature as being alive, and ourselves as living beings within a living world, a living world that has many levels of organization from molecules, atoms, cells, the whole planet, the solar system, the galaxy, the whole universe -- at every level there's a kind of integrity, a wholeness that's more than the sum of the parts -- then we can think about the relation between science and religion in a new light, a different way than has been possible for the last three hundred years.
SHELDRAKE: It's like yin and yang. Yin and yang, you see, are two principles, but it's actually a trinity, because the circle that encloses them both makes the yin and yang, the duality, part of a greater whole. It's, if you like, the third principle, the circle around the yin and yang. So whenever you have a kind of duality of principles, as we see everywhere in nature, it's full of dualities -- form and energy, positive and negative in electricity, and so on -- wherever you have these kinds of dualities, and wherever we find them in ourselves, the resolution is usually to be found in some higher unity which contains and includes both.
MISHLOVE: The ground of existence, so to speak.
SHELDRAKE: Yes. And insofar as one could say that we're made in the image of God, I think it's in that kind of sense that we're made in the image of God, not in the kind of crude sense that God looks like you or me, or actually looks like a person. And I don't think it's ever really been understood that way by serious theologians.
This leads one into very deep and theological waters. But there have been, throughout the whole history of theological thought in the West, ideas which would say that within God is the world soul, the anima mundi, which is that, if you like, in modern terms it would be the field of the universe -- the universal field, the primal unified field, which modern physicists are talking about all the time. It's the primal field that was there at the beginning of the big bang which gave rise to the other fields of nature.
MISHLOVE: The ground underlying all of creation.
SHELDRAKE: The ground underlying all of creation. Now, within that, I think, the principle of memory and habit are operative -- what one could say is the ground of that ground. If one wants to find the ground to that ground, which would be God in traditional terms, it probably goes beyond any adequate concept we can form. But the ground of this universe, which would be the primal field of the universe, and all the energy inherent within it, and all the creativity latent within it, I think, would include this principle of memory or habit which I'm talking about.
MISHLOVE: You seem to be suggesting, then, that what we call the laws of the universe, which we sometimes believe are inviolable and extend indefinitely and permanently, that these laws are in effect memories and habits that have evolved as if the universe itself were an organism.
SHELDRAKE: Exactly that, yes.
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--- Quote from: _[quote author=Laura on March 26, 2006, 03:56:51 PM ---]
Rupert Sheldrake, a London-based biologist, biochemist, philosopher and author, who trained at Cambridge and Harvard, researches unexplained perceptiveness in animals, such as telepathy, sense of direction and premonition.
He repeatedly tested N'kisi, a captive African Grey parrot who seemed to respond telepathically to the thoughts and intentions of his owner, Aimee Morgana. He wanted to find out whether the bird would use words matching randomly chosen pictures Morgana was looking at in another room.
"These findings are consistent with the hypotheses that N'kisi was reacting telepathically to Aimee's mental activity," Sheldrake reports on his website (http://www.sheldrake.org).
"The fact that these experiments statistically prove that N'kisi's use of speech is not random also give evidence of his sentience and intentional use of language."
Toronto parrot owner Margaret Evered, formerly a behaviour biologist and now a computer consultant, doesn't need science to prove that she and her female African Grey parrot have a psychic bond.
Evered recounts how the bird, Plato, anticipated her return after a one-year absence — even though not even her parents, in whose care she'd left the bird, knew when she was returning.
"One day she wouldn't go to bed. She just kept standing at the door, waiting. I rolled in at 2 a.m.," Evered says.
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Not related to the subject of telepathy, but still in the realm of being unconsciously influenced by 'exterior' stimuli, is the idea of infrasound. There are many references on the forum, but my point for mentioning it is that we can be influenced in many ways...even have fear induced in us, but it may not, necessarily, have anything to do with some kind of telepatic communication/attack, etc.
As Laura said in a recent post, the only real thing to fear is fear, itself. Learning is fun!
On a lighter note...something about infrasound and 'Bigfoot':
--- Quote from: _http://www.bigfootforums.com/lofiversion/index.php/t2515.html ---Gee4orce
I've heard people allude to strange phenomena that sometimes manifest when a Bigfoot is spotted, and yet I have no idea what they are talking about. I'm not talking about crackpots here either - but some of the most respected people in the field.
Other than the feeling of being watched, what other phenomena seem to occur when a Bigfoot is about ?
SgtFang
I've heard alot of people say the entire area will get completely quiet during a sighting. Do you mean things like that?
-Sarge
robo
...SgtFang is right that sudden silence in the forest is a commonly reported occurrence in BF sightings. As well, there have been ideas bounced around about infrasound (sound below humans' normal hearing range) produced by Sasquatches which can trigger strange responses in humans, including feelings of fear and panic, or even sudden sweating. That infrasound can produce reactions in some people is fairly well documented, AFAIK, though whether Sasquatches use it is unknown.
There has been some research the definately correleates infrasound to feelings of unease, and even outright fear. I certainly think it's a possibility that BF uses infrasound, but I'm not sure even a huge Bigfoot has got vocal tracts long enough to produce these sound waves - this is simple physics !
As for pheremones - I read just last week that research indicates that, even though humans lack the part of the brain that responds to pheremones in other animals, it seems that our normal olfactory brain area may actually 'understand' pheremones after all !
Gee4orce
About the feeling of being watched - there is an interesting looking book entirely about this in my local bookshop. I keep meaning to get a hold of it. Flicking though it in the shop, I learnt that the research showed that there is some evidence to back up the sensation of someone watching you. Experiments included having someone stare at someone else, even across a crowded room.
Here's something you can try yourself - when you pass a car in another lane, look across to the other driver. This is not a large movement, and when you are alongside you are out of their peripheral vision - I also have tinted windows in my car - so movement shouldn't be alerting them to you looking at them. However, it's suprising how frequently the other person will look back across to you. It's as if they are aware that you are looking at them....
Where exectly this leads I don't know. How you can explain it is also a mystery. It obviously has high value for prey species, and is probably an evolved response. But what the mechanic actually is is very puzzling. Maybe that other 90% of our brain does actually do something after all ?!
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Buddy:
Some more stuff about Rupert Sheldrake's work that might be interesting. And a reference to pets:
--- Quote from: _http://www.sheldrake.org/B&R/audiostream/ ---Rupert's Dialogues with Dr Andrew Weil
The Collection of Hollyhock Dialogues 2004-2009
The Nature of Life - a Scientific Debate
Rupert with Prof Lewis Wolpert
Broadcast Interview given by Rupert on his theory of Morphic Resonance.
Science, Consciousness and Spirit
Dialogue with Matthew Fox and Rupert Sheldrake
Talk: What Science Can't Explain
Rupert's Lecture at Goldsmiths College, University of London Jan 20 2009
Morphic Resonance, Collective Memory and the Habits of Nature
The Tyndale Lecture 2008
Rupert at Lambeth Palace Cosmic Evolution and Continual Creativity
Rupert's lecture: How Skeptics Work
Tucson, Arizona 'Towards a Science of Consciousness' Conference
The Evolution of Telepathy (MP3 file, playing time 1hr 8min)
Rupert and David Cayley - dialogue on Evolutionary Biology.
The Sheldrake - McKenna - Abraham Trialogues
A series of lively, far-reaching discussions between Rupert and his close friends Ralph Abraham and Terence McKenna, that took place between 1989 and 1998, in America and England.
Cells, Minds and Morphic Fields
Rupert Sheldrake and Bruce Lipton
Rupert's Lecture at Goldsmiths College, London, November 21st 2006
What if Telepathy Really Happens?
Rupert at the Perrott-Warrick Public Debate, Trinity College Cambridge, November 29th 2006
Does Telepathy Happen?
Rupert at the BA Festival of Science UEA Norwich Sept 5th 2006
Rupert's paper on Telepathy was the subject of intense controversy. For example, Prof Peter Atkins, a chemist at Oxford University, was quoted as saying, “There is absolutely no reason to suppose that telepathy is anything more than a charlatan’s fantasy.” On the same day, BBC Radio 5 broadcast a debate between the two.
The Telepathy controversy - Prof Peter Atkins and Dr Rupert Sheldrake.
The Extended Mind: Social Insects
A Glorious Accident: Rupert Sheldrake Interview
Presence of the Past
Were there any laws of the universe at the same time of the big bang?
The Universal Organism
The so-called "laws of nature" may actually be more like habits and instincts than immutable and inviolable principles. Rupert Sheldrake, biologist and author of the controversial A New Science of Life, suggests that from this perspective all of creation may be viewed as a living organism. This ancient concept challenges the notion of the universe as a mechanism with God as the great mechanic.
A Brief History of Rupert Sheldrake
From the video Seven Experiments That Could Change the World, this is a great introduction to the life and work of Dr. Sheldrake.
An Introduction to Rupert Sheldrake. This is a clip from the video with Terence McKenna and Ralph Abraham. Rupert explains how he first became interested in biology as a child and how this has been translated into a way of life for him.
The Extended Mind: Revolutionary Science That Could Change the World
This was the keynote address at the Psychology of Health, Immunity & Disease conference in Hilton Head, SC. December, 1997. If you are interested in the psychic pet and staring research, you'll really like this clip.
[My Note: I had a link to one of Sheldrake's "staring experiments", but can't find it now. Rupert explains that rather than being stuffed inside the head, a person's mind is an energy field, like the magnetic fields of a magnetic - extending out from his body. A person's vision/attention is said to be like reaching out to touch something with the mind. This makes sense to me and suggests that the reason some people may not be able to 'see', holistically, may be due to early aversion training that puts a person in a state of mind where it's not safe to allow their minds to touch everything in their environment].
How Can Animals Predict Earthquakes?
The Relationship Between Humans & Animals
We need contact with animals - beginning with the ancient shamans up until today with domesticated animals like dogs and cats. Rupert explores why it may be that we need this bond and how disastrous our present situation is - where cows and pig are herded and slaughtered by the masses for indulgent consumers on their lunch breaks to McDonald's. ...and more...
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Edit: Added Later:
I forgot to add that any comments, feedback of any type is welcome.
Annette1:
Thank you for sharing this Buddy!!! This is fascinating. I read this quickly and I need to re-read it again to fully absorb it. I've mentioned telepathy in the 2D thread with regard to my own observations and experiences. This definitely sheds more light on the subject.
While reading the information you shared, two questions popped into my head. I'm not posing them to you, I'm just thinking outloud.
One thought was if all this information exists in space so to speak, I wondered if our dreams are a sort of convoluted interpretation or registering of the information floating around. Especially if our minds are more open during our dream state.
My second thought is one that haunts me ever since I read that psychopaths are (or seem to be) able to recognize each other. I've always wondered if they (psychopaths) are able to do this why can't we do the same? And if they can recognize one another HOW are they doing it? I asked this question early on in another thread, but the answers provided didn't really satisfy.
I did see some video presentations about dogs anticipation of their owners' return. I've long suspected that animals we humans take on as companions and are bonded with are capable of deciphering some basic emotions (depression, joy, fear, distress) and are able to relate to those emotions and respond to them.
Anyway, I found this information rather exciting. Thanks again.
Desiderata:
This is kind of stupid, but the idea of all sorts of electromagnetic waves in the seemingly "empty" air reminded me of something that occurs occasionally.
Have you ever thought about an episode of a TV show, and then later that day you turn on the TV and the very same episode is on? This used to happen to me regarding "The Simpsons" on a fairly regular basis.
A relatively mundane sort of thing, I know, but it implies something much more interesting. :P
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