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Álvaro:

--- Quote ---One thought was if all this information exists in space so to speak, I wondered if our dreams are a sort of convoluted interpretation or registering of the information floating around.  Especially if our minds are more open during our dream state.
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Dreams are symbolic significance if we took their literal interpretation, then I could be considered for collecting information that swarmed in the "space". But dreams normally have a hidden meaning behind the images we see in them a message that gives the subconscious about ourselves. At least I interpret my dreams in this way, and everything makes more sense if I take it literally. Dreams are a good tool to know ourselves. That is, except in rare cases, the dream comes from within. That is my point of view. I do not deny that sometimes the information from the outside also enter our dreams at some point, who knows, but I think if that happens very rarely is.

truth seeker:

--- Quote from: Horus_Risen on February 25, 2010, 06:22:02 AM ---This is kind of stupid, but the idea of all sorts of electromagnetic waves in the seemingly "empty" air reminded me of something that occurs occasionally.

Have you ever thought about an episode of a TV show, and then later that day you turn on the TV and the very same episode is on? This used to happen to me regarding "The Simpsons" on a fairly regular basis.

A relatively mundane sort of thing, I know, but it implies something much more interesting.   :P

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Funny you should mention this! A couple of months ago, I was trying to explain a Simpons episode where Bart was in church and switched the organ music and lyrics from whatever the usual thing was to "In A Gadda Da Vida"/"In the Garden of Eden". The next day, the episode came on! This also happens with music and if I think of people. It's another good reason for me to not think about people I don't like!

Ana:

--- Quote from: Bud on January 06, 2010, 08:57:55 PM ---[My Note: I had a link to one of Sheldrake's "staring experiments", but can't find it now. Rupert explains that rather than being stuffed inside the head, a person's mind is an energy field, like the magnetic fields of a magnetic - extending out from his body. A person's vision/attention is said to be like reaching out to touch something with the mind. This makes sense to me and suggests that the reason some people may not be able to 'see', holistically, may be due to early aversion training that puts a person in a state of mind  where it's not safe to allow their minds to touch everything in their environment].

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This is very interesting Bud, May  this state of mind be self preservation?
Self preservation focus the energy/atention to the inside while those who as you said see holistically  may be focusing the energy/atention outside themselves.

Makes me remeber of this session:

--- Quote from: 941210 ---Q: (T) You talk about both STO and STS. Yet you tell us that we need to learn to be STO. Why is there a difference between what we have to do and what you are doing?
A: STO is balance because you serve self through others.
Q: (T) You have said a couple of times that you are STS by being STO. Is this not true?
A: Yes. Already answered.
Q: (T) Kind of like: what goes around, comes around?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Is STO a means to an end for STS?
A: No. STO is balance. STS is imbalance.
Q: (T) How can you be STS through STO if STS is imbalance?
A: STO flows outward and touches all including point of origin, STS flows inward and touches only origin point.
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Buddy:

--- Quote from: Horus_Risen on February 25, 2010, 06:22:02 AM ---Have you ever thought about an episode of a TV show, and then later that day you turn on the TV and the very same episode is on?
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Yep, plus, in the early 80's, 'boom boxes' were popular and we young 'uns often noticed that we could be thinking of a particular song and go turn on the radio, or change the station, and the song would be playing. This kind of thing, as well as the common experience of thinking about someone who then calls you on the phone, seems to happen a lot throughout life.

Depending on the exact situation and the person, I suppose this could be an example of telepathy, and there's also another possibility that may simply concern sensitivity to impressions related to repeating patterns of something that has been learned by the mind on a level when we weren't consciously aware of learning it. (music and tv broadcasts repeat their songs and episodes on a regular basis). If this is the case, then part of us might signal the conscious awareness that it was 'time' for something we enjoyed before, to be enjoyed again.


I recalled another experiment I lost track of, and it was called something like the 'supermarket experiment.' A supermarket had video cameras installed and everyone who walked into the store was videotaped. Out of all the people who entered the store, the experimenter recorded the number of instances where someone looked up at the camera. After awhile, no one thought the experiment was going anywhere, so the  employee-monitors went to break, while the cameras continued rolling. After break, the video was reviewed and the experimenter was stunned to discover that, while the monitor-watchers were out of the room, the number of people looking up at the camera dropped in a statistically significant way. When surveillance resumed, the number of people glancing up at the camera increased as well.

The results of this experiment were compared with other experiments that involved people spontaneously looking around to discover someone staring at them (or not staring, but was otherwise occupied, and just happened to be 'caught' looking at them at the same time).

There does seem to be some kind of 'field' quality to this, like 'the medium is the message', as communication technology media theorist Marshall McLuhan conceptualized to explain how a communications technology, the medium or figure, necessarily operates through its context, or ground.


Terence Mckenna met with Rupert Sheldrake and in this introduction video, gives a brief synopsis of
Morphic Resonance:
"...the presence of the past actually impinges on processes in the present and in the future. In other words, our world is as it is because of how it once was. This is not a genetic theory, not a theory of natural selection, but a field theory which holds that actions and situations in the past are able, by the mere act of having happened, to shape future and present events."

Paraphrasing a statement by Sheldrake:
Memories can be 'not-materially' based. There is a collective memory upon which each species draws.
Memories are not only inherent in a species while it is alive; even after they're dead (or extinct) the world is still filled with memories, of instincts, behavior, form and experience; ('ghosts of extinct species'), that no longer exist.
Source: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vld-gzQVE0Y&feature=related

I occasionally wonder if Theosophy might be an apprehension, yet mis-understanding, of 'morphic resonance', but I don't know enough to say. Perhaps both are simply different ways of expressing something broader and more encompassing. There is one Theosophy writer that has something very interesting to say on telepathy:

In "Telepathy", Alice Bailey says:
True telepathic rapport is part of the Supreme Science of Contact and has peculiar and definite reference to humanity. Many different terms might be used in the effort to convey some understanding of this subtle, subjective mode of relationship, and I have used among others the following:
1.   The Science of Contact
2.   The Science of Impression
3.   The Science of Invocation and Evocation
4.   The Science of Relationship
5.   The Science of Sensitivity
All these terms convey different aspects of the reaction of form or forms to contact, to impression, to impact, to environment, to the thought context of various minds, to ascending and descending energies, to the invocation of agents and the evocation of their response. The whole planetary system is in reality a vast interlocking, interdependent and inter-related complexity of vehicles communicating or responsive to communication.

Bailey, Alice A.
Telepathy
Lucis Publishing Co.
ISBN 0-85330-116-6

One reviewer had this to say: Telepathy And The Etheric Vehicle:
"An exhaustive view of telepathy through the study of the types of energy involved in such activity. As the reading progresses, one comes to realize that telepathic sensitivity is a normal unfoldement, which parallels spiritual development. Grow and know! Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle is a great guide to understanding how people can interact with each other on a different level of consciousness. By the time you reach the end, it's like you've reached the beginning."
Source: _http://www.flipkart.com/telepathy-etheric-vehicle-bailey/8129201968-ru23fgkirf

"...a normal unfoldement which parallels spiritual development", "Grow and know!"...sounds like telepathy would be a natural part of this Work in terms of growing our "Knowledge and Being", hm? Which would return to what I mentioned earlier concerning the possibility that if telepathy exists, then as we continue Work, it will occur so naturally as to be considered a completely normal phenomenon barely worth mentioning!

I think Laura has already stated that "...the ability to dissociate/tune in to other levels of consciousness is evolutionarily stable in an environment where psychopaths do not exist."


--- Quote from: Ana on February 25, 2010, 08:30:33 PM ---This is very interesting Bud, May  this state of mind be self preservation?
Self preservation focus the energy/atention to the inside while those who as you said see holistically  may be focusing the energy/atention outside themselves.
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That seems likely, especially in the sense that internal considering can become a habit if one has had to constantly think about one's own safety, and what I specifically had in mind, was making the link to this:



--- Quote from: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14103.msg108201#msg108201 ---Hmmm... makes me wonder about cartoons.  Why can someone expand their imagination in a two dimensional world - a world that is clearly NOT real nor even purports to be - but cannot do the same in relation to the real world?  

I suspect some insidious programming relating to the use of cartoons.
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...to which I thought that people (especially very young children), naturally "expand their imagination" into any areas that seem safe and, as yet ,untouched by aversion training.

Buddy:
Here's some possibly interesting stuff gathered during some research:

This is NOT Telepathy by conventional definition, but under the umbrella concept of Psi. Ingo Swann claims to have distinguished about 36 different types of Telepathy. In fact, being stuck with/in conventional nomenclature is said to be one of the reasons many of us do not realize our Psi potentials - we're stuck in limiting beliefs - highly structured, rigid information grids that do not contain enough meaningful information bits to activate all of our available senses and sensory systems (as just one of the problems).


--- Quote from: Swann ---
With the invention of the electron microscope in the early 1930s, large amounts of data had accumulated by the 1950s which irrevocably substantiated that the human being possessed very many more senses than only the infamous physical five. As of the late 1950s, then, there was no longer any justifiable reason to continue teaching and emphasizing the five physical senses. And, as well, there was no longer any justifiable reason to continue the mainstream debunking of so-called psychic perceptions - because bio-mind receptors have been located and confirmed for a lot of them.

During the 1960s and 1970s, the scientific information pool of this kind of discovery had increased enormously - the sum of which brought a complete end to the concept of the five physical senses only.
A "complete end" at least in a scientific sense. But not in a cultural sense - because the meaning of these sensory discoveries is still being completely ignored in the cultural and ideological milieus, even though technical and popular books became available.

One of the problems, in the cultural sense is the nomenclature. For example, Swann states that he has identified about 36 types or forms of "Telepathy", yet how many people have just a single representative definition for the term? Once the concepts and nomenclature have become established, they also enter into our mental information processing grids -- and thereafter we think of the superpowers only within those terms. As a result, our sensory load inputs and subsequent thinking processes and their extent can become trapped within the limits of the concepts and nomenclature (and function as limiting thoughts and beliefs).

Since the conventional concepts of the basic five senses are usually focused only on the physical and tangible, they also tend to focus the intellect on the physical and tangible, and sometimes exclusively so.
In such a case, it might be concluded that the full extent and entirety of the human biomind perceptions regard only what is physical and tangible -- and which is the general case within the major Western philosophies of materialism and the physical sciences.

What we actually have are vast arrays of SENSORY RECEPTORS of all kinds quite busy receiving an even vaster array of information-signals. We also have vast arrays of EMITTERS, equally busy sending out all kinds of information-signals.

If we get beyond the simplistic use of the term "senses" and deeper into the anatomy and dynamics of the physical five, then we find that what we call a "physical sense" is actually made up of extraordinarily complex interactions among a vast number of sensory receptors.

Indeed, it is quite possible today to say that we do not have SENSES at all -- unless we utilize the term "sense" as "to make sense of something." What we actually have are vast arrays of SENSORY RECEPTORS of all kinds quite busy receiving an even vaster array of information-signals. We also have vast arrays of EMITTERS, equally busy sending out all kinds of information-signals.

Every specimen of our species is a walking, talking array of sensing systems -- and these are so wonderful and astonishing as to boggle even those who study them scientifically.

The most obvious and perhaps the only purpose and function of any or all of the sensory receptors is to deal with information -- to INFORM us of the various aspects of the physical and tangible. And INFORMATION is always invisible until it is transduced into some "hard" form such as words, codes, mathematics, voice, printed or computer formats, deduction, and, last of all, into intellect cognition.

Information theorists now hold that information is always available, and all the time available, whether human specimens perceive it or not.

In this context, I again refer you to the book I've already mentioned: DECIPHERING THE SENSES: THE EXPANDING WORLD OF HUMAN PERCEPTION (Robert Rivlin and Karen Gravelle, Simon & Schuster). In this book the arcane complexities of many scientific papers were clarified for the popular reader -- and who would be surprised to find SEVENTEEN senses cogently described in it.

RE:
I'll quote from the book's fly-leaf; "For centuries we have used an oversimplified and inaccurate model to explain the human senses. Even now, high school biology classes still teach the `five senses'. But recent scientific research has discovered that there are many more than five senses, and these discoveries have radically changed our understanding of what the senses are and how they work. Rivlan and Gravelle redefine for the general reader the spectrum of human perceptions from the normal to the newly discovered to the extra-sensory."

As chapter one indicates, the book discusses "The seventeen senses" additional to our usual five ones, and then goes on to place the newly-discovered senses in context with the usual five. The authors consume eight chapters to prepare the reader - before they reach chapter 9, entitled "Extra-sensory perception." Probably because of this chapter, the book was now well-received and is now out of print. But it's well worth tracking down a copy of it.

The Particular Situation that needs to be dealt with consists of three factors:

(1) science demanded that a bio-organic explanation for psi faculties be found before it could accept them as real;
(2) bio-organic explanations have been found for many kinds of psi faculties; and
(3) everyone seems to be ignoring both the facts and the implications of (2) as just stated.


As to more of what our additional senses are:

Did you know that the soles of your feet and the palms of your hands contain minute magnetic receptors and sensors that "recognize" minute and gross changes in local magnetism?

Here are the rudiments of dowsing, healing, and various rough forms of psychometry which means psyching-out what something is by merely holding it.

Alas, though. If you haven't built neural pathways linking these sensors to your cognitive faculties, you probably won't be able to sense what the receptors in the soles of your feet picking up.

Now, discovered bio-electromagnetic fields extending outside the scalp and outside of the skin clearly equate to the "auras" that many clairvoyants have specialized in "seeing."

As to what these seventeen new senses are. The seventeen new senses interact with each other to provide a rather extensive list, many of which have in the past been referred to as "psychic." Since we don't have time here to go through them, I've brought a few copies of that list to hand out, along with some copies of this lecture, and all of which you are free to duplicate.

But, for example, the bio-body is now known to have a functioning vomeronasal system containing receptors enabling, at the bio-subliminal level, the detection of minute amounts of chemical signals that tell us about anther's sexual receptivity, fear, anger, and other emotions - an aptitude more commonly referred to as "psychic vibe-sensing."

In another category, through the use of a newly invented device called the SQUID, scientists can and have measured and begun to classify the brain's electrical activity outside of the scalp - Which in turn has led to discoveries that bio-electric activity extends to some distance beyond the skin - Which in turn has led to the discovery of bio-electric sensors not only in the skin, but in the neuropeptide activity that transmits all kinds of subtle senses information through the immune system and into the brain - and back again into the body's extremities and all its internal organs, including into its surrounding bio-electromagnetic field.

More:

1. Receptors in the nose sensing systems that "smell" emotions, and that can identify motives, sexual receptivity, antagonism, benevolence, etc. (All these are formats of what are commonly referred to as psychic vibe-sensing.)

2. Receptors in the ear sensing systems that detect and identify differences in pressure and electromagnetic frequencies (formats of ESP.)

3. Skin receptors that detect balance and imbalance regarding what is external to the bio-body, even external at some astonishing distances (formats of remote-sensing, a mixed form of ESP and clairvoyance.)

4. Skin receptors that detect motion outside of the body, even when the body is asleep (a format of subliminal ESP.)

5. Directional finding and locating receptors in the endocrine and neuropeptide systems (formats of dowsing, intermixed with formats of cognitive ESP or intuition.)

6. Whole-body receptors, including hair, that identify fluidic motions of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, even if not visually perceived (as, for example, in the "psychic" portion of the martial art of Akhido.)

7. Skin receptors that "recognize" the temperament of other biological organisms (a format of psi "reading".)

8. Subliminal sensory systems which locate and identify pitch of sound, a sense of heat across great distances, a sense of frequencies and waves, either mechanical or energetic (all being formats of ESP and vibe-sensing, sometimes also referred to as "shaman perceiving.")

9. Receptors that identify positive and negative charged particles at the atomic level. (The term utilized for this in psychical research is "micro-psi" but which is rare. However, it has been convincingly demonstrated, especially in the case of C. W. Leadbeater who published Occult Chemistry (1908). Thirty years before the invention of the electron-microscope he correctly described sub-atomic particles, many undiscovered at the time, but discovered since. Micro-psi faculties are mentioned as one of the ancient Sidhis of ancient India (see, for example, Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).)

10. Microsystem transducing of various forms of mechanical, chemical, and electromagnetic energy into meaningful nerve impulses (all commonly thought of as FORMS OF ESP.)

11. Receptors that sense gravitational changes (a form of PSYCHIC DOWSING.)

12. Neurological senses for interpreting modulated electronic information by converting it into analog signals for mental storage, interpretation, and cognition (one of the bio-mind bases for TELEPATHY.)

13. Bio-electronic receptors for sensing radiation, including X-rays, cosmic rays, infrared radiation, and ultraviolet light, all of these receptors being found in the retina of the eye (part of the basis for various forms of CLAIRVOYANCE.)

14. Receptors that respond to exterior electrical fields and systems (producing forms of CLAIRVOYANCE and AURA "READING.")

Today, the following highly specialized sensing systems are referred to in the new sciences as HUMAN SEMAPHORE CAPACITIES.

15. Skin receptors for sensing perceptions of bonding or antagonism (thought of as forms of INTUITION.)

16. Senses for non-verbal "language" communicating (thought as a form of TELEPATHY or VIBE-SENSING.)

17. Combined sensing systems (neural networks) for making meaning out of at least 130 identified nonverbal physical gestures and twenty basic kinds of nonverbal messages (thought of as INTUITIONAL CHARACTER ASSESSMENT or a particular form of CLAIRVOYANCE.)

18. Receptors that trigger alarm and apprehension before their sources are directly perceived (a particularly valuable type of PSYCHIC FORESIGHT, FORESEEING, INTUITION.)

19. Sensing systems for registering and identifying nonverbal emotional waves (a form of INTUITION and/or TELEPATHY or CLAIRVOYANCE.)

The following are now known to be associated with the PINEAL GLAND if it is healthy and in good working order.

20. Senses and memory-stores cycles of light and darkness, anticipating them with accuracy as the daily motions of the sun and moon change (a kind of PSYCHIC FORECASTING or FUTURE SEEING.)

21. Senses and responds to solar and lunar rhythms, solar disruptions (flares, sunspots) and moon-caused tidal changes (water or geophysical ones), and can sense "coming" earthquakes and storms (a form of PREDICTIVE ESP especially noted in sailors, farmers, but also in cows, dogs, cats, and snakes.)

22. If the pineal gland is fully functional, it acts as a non-visual photo-receptor (the psychic equivalent being "X-RAY VISION.")


The following senses or sensing systems are similar to some already mentioned, but they appear to function upon a completely different basis and are additional those senses already mentioned.

It is now thought that this basis is almost certainly the WATER contained in the bio-body, in the physical components of the nerve systems, and the physical part of the brain.

It is not yet understood how WATER is used this way to create a fluidic but elaborate series of interconnected sensing systems.

One of the best guesses, yet to be established, is that the vibrations of the water molecules link together throughout the entire bio-body and form the equivalent of radar or sonar antennae.

These liquid antenna sensing systems appear to detect the following categories. Divided by categories, they can be thought of as individualized and highly refined sensing systems. All of these categories have been thought of as PSYCHIC, ESP, CLAIRVOYANT, or INTUITIVE - which is to say, been thought of as unexplainable and hence impossible. [my note: I wonder if this is related to Dr Emoto's work involving water?]

23. Sense of non-visual wave motions.

24. Sense of non-visual oscillating patterns.

25. Sense of magnetic fields.

26. Sense of infrared radiation.

27. Sense of electrical energy.

28. Sense receptors for local AND distant sources of heat. (This is an unnamed PSI faculty, but one familiar to Amerindians.)

29. Sense of geo-electromagnetic pulses, magnetic fields, especially biological ones (psychic equivalents unidentified and unnamed.)

30. Although the mechanisms are not at all understood, the liquidic sensing detectors apparently are somehow involved in the remote sensing of anything at a distance, however great. The results, of course, are remote viewing, remote hearing, remote tasting, and so forth.


Finally (although there is no "finally" here), we come to sensory systems' receptors spread throughout the entire bio-body, and which apparently feed information into the mind-body interface (if "interface" would be the correct concept.)

31. Whole-body receptors (millions of them) to detect pheromones, sexual receptivity, fear, love, admiration, danger, pain in others, intentions in others, etc., (all formerly thought of as inexplicable forms of ESP or so-called VIBE-SENSING and/or PSYCHIC `READING".)

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Book reference:
_http://www.amazon.com/Deciphering-Senses-Expanding-World-Perception/dp/0671461249
A PRELIMINARY BIBLIOGRAPHY:
_http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Bibliography.html
Table of contents:
_http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/1.html
Reference for this post:
_http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Your17Senses.html

Edit: modified Dr. Emoto link to point to intended thread.

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