GERD

Kila

Jedi
I went to the doctor yesterday and got a diagnosis of Gastric reflux. I have an endoscopy scheduled in a couple of weeks.

I'll say this doesn't surprise me as I have had trouble with my stomach for years. I also have a hiatal hernia that I developed during my first pregnancy. My stomach is always my weakest link. But sometimes I will go for years and not have any problems with it. It does seem to be totally related to emotional issues.

I have a book about intuition in the body and I fit the stomach profile perfectly so I know that this is a big part of the issue. That said, I have stopped drinking coffee now for several weeks, stopped smoking(that seemed to really irritate it) and I recently fasted on juices and that did help. I have been eating apples, drinking raw very very sour goats yogurt, and taking baking soda. I am also drinking licorice, marshmallow, slippery elm tea. I also take chlorophyll. The only relief I get is from bentonite clay that I mix with colloidal silver and aloe vera(in case I also have a bacterial infection and ulcers) My stomach feels very full and hurts even when I just drink tea.

The good news is the referred pain in my chest and shoulder has abated.

I'll say this too, that I live in constant dread of dying from cancer as my mom did. This is a program yes? How do you think these things intersect? And is there anything else anyone might recommend on a physical level?

Just want to add:

Here are the general rules:

Eat a lot of leafy green vegetables every day. Try to have kale, collards, cooked spinach, chard or bok choy every day.

Include some grains every day from the list.

You can eat fish, shellfish, organic chicken, turkey, or beef once a day.

Have dried, cooked beans every day.
Have nuts and seeds every day.

Have a serving of berries every day.

Have a serving of beets every day.

Eat lots of garlic.

Use organic cold-pressed oils to cook: olive oil, coconut oil, sesame oil, grape seed oil.

Use organic butter in moderation.

Take 1 to 2 tablespoons of flaxseed oil every day.

Sweeten with Stevia.

Drink natural spring water, distilled or filtered water only.

Have organic herbal teas as often as you like.

Eat sea vegetables a few times a week: dulse, nori, arame, wakame, kombu and hijiki. All of these are very high in magnesium.

Soak your nuts before eating them if possible.

Soak your rice and other grains overnight before cooking.

Soak dried beans overnight with teaspoon of baking soda then discard water and wash again before cooking.

Use sea salt.

Make your own mayonnaise from organic egg yolks, grape seed oil and fresh lemon or lime juice and organic dijon mustard.



Avoid like the plague the following:

All refined and processed foods such as cookies, cakes, doughnuts, bagels, breads, etc.
Lunch meats and hotdogs.
Soy products and soy protein powders.
All sugars including fructose, corn syrup.
Diet products of any kind.
All dairy products except organic butter and free range eggs.
Coffee and tea. Period
Any foods containing hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils.
Any foods with MSG or "hydrolyzed vegetable protein".
All alcohol
All fruit juices and sodas
Commercial iodized salt.

It is probably best to concentrate your diet on this list for at least a month or two while also taking other detox steps such as supplementation and detox saunas.

I follow this diet pretty well. I could improve in that I could eat leafy green vegetables every day. I don't like beans and most grains don't agree with me( they are starvation foods at my house) so we don't eat them. I use organic butter and free range eggs, I also use raw milk and goats milk and get raw cheeses but these are used sparingly as they are sooo expensive. I buy grassfed or free range meats. Though I have not been eating much meat at all as I am not digesting proteins and fats very well right now.
 
I was diagnosed with hiatal hernia years ago, reflux and all that. When I completely gave up gluten and dairy, nuts and eggs, it went away.
 
I was diagnosed with hiatal hernia years ago, reflux and all that. When I completely gave up gluten and dairy, nuts and eggs, it went away.


Interesting... I don't eat wheat any more, I really try to stay away from all grains unless they are fermented although I do eat some rice occasionally. The goats milk seems to be one of the few things I do well with. But eggs are definitely a possibility as I ate a couple of soft boiled eggs the other day and it was not good. Nuts... hmmmm ... I don't know about nuts. They seem pretty benign right now but I may try cutting those out. I don't eat a lot of nuts but.. I have read through the Weston Price foundation about the anti nutrients in nuts and so I should probably be soaking all my nuts but... it just seems like more work. I'll cut them out for now.

Last night I saw one my favorite therapists. I am actually getting ready to do some continuing ed with him in a few weeks. He did some deep abdominal work on me and released my diaphragm and actually pulled my stomach down a bit. He did notice I had some adhesions, no doubt from the hernia and he suggested that when I experience stress and my diaphragm gets tight due to those adhesions I start pulling my stomach up through the hernia.
I told him about the breathing I was doing and he gave me a few tips to increase the effectiveness of the abdominal breathing. So I will be trying those tonight.
 
Kila, sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I am wishing you good luck with the endoscopy, and continued healing afterwards.

One more thing I wanted to mention is that for all the stomach issues, eating regularly in small portions is no less important than eating right foods. You have mentioned some place that you would often just finish whatever your kids didn't eat, and I recognize myself in this, too. I have always watched my diet, and thought that I'm eating right, but after taking stock of my meal planning, I realized that I am not doing that well: a skipped breakfast, and then some gluten-free bread crusts and a gluten-free snack bar on the run do not constitute good eating habits. So may this is also something to consider.

Another thing I was told in the past is to sleep with your torso elevated (a couple of pillows under the mattress), and take deglycerized licorice extract to relieve discomfort and heal the esophagus. It comes in brown tablets that you suck on.

The fear of following along your parent's footsteps health-wise is a very real one. I worry about my father who fears that he will not outlive his parents who died early, and as a result is fatalistic not only about his health (that he doesn't take care of very well), but also his finances and future plans (which he simply doesn't make).

This definitely is a program, and the thing to watch out for, IMO, is not so much how it will affect the future as a prophecy that magically fulfills itself, but whether it defines the way you are living now, as this is what really matters. I wonder if it would help looking deeper, into which concerns really underly the fear you are talking about. Perhaps you may find that what you are really afraid of is not accomplishing something, or being helpless, or not being here for your family, or something completely different. And that would be the emotion to work with. On the physical plane, looks like you are already doing good things. Deep bodywork on stomach area is incredibly beneficial and can release many old feelings.

Good luck and good health to you!
 
Hi Kila, I am sorry about the diagnosis. I have been dealing with hiatal hernial and heartburn for a long time. I even recently went to a western doctor to see what they would say about it. They told me to take zantac to block the acid and see if that helped the situation and if it did not then they would refer me to a doctor to have a endoscopy done.

Well I remembered hearing in the past that reflux can be caused by too little stomach acid so I was very weary about the prescription drug. I have decided to go the alternative route. My chiropractor has recommended that I take a product called Multizyme to aid in digestion. He also sometimes performs the maneuver where he pulls my stomach down by grabbing and thrusting downwards.

Also when I am having issues I sleep with my head elevated and it helps with the reflux. And I have heard that sleeping on your left side is supposed to help with heartburn because of the direction the stomach is in the body. Gravity supposedly keeps the acid in the stomach.

I was researching about heartburn and medications and found this:

http://www.nymedicalnutrition.com/images/PDF/ACID%20BLOCKERS%20AND%20MALNUTRITION.pdf

ACID BLOCKERS AND MALNUTRITION - THE MYTH OF HYPERACIDITY © 2005
Your prescription for Osteoporosis, Visual Disturbances
Heart disease, Dementia, Stomach cancer and so much more
WHAT’S THE CONNECTION?

By Juliana Mazzeo – MS, CDN – Medical Nutritionist

Acid blockers or proton inhibitors range from the mild antacids, which neutralized stomach acid, to the powerful proton pump inhibitors that prevent stomach, cells from producing stomach acid. We know them as the little purple pill, Nexium®, Pepcid®, Aciphex®, Protonix®, or as calcium supplements i.e. Tums®.

What is acid reflux? Acid reflux is plain old indigestion. Because of the pricey medicines advertised to patients, acid indigestion was give a new name; acid reflux.

What is the cause of acid reflux? There are many causes of indigestion. The main one being poor diet, structural problems, obesity, hypochlorohydria [inadequate stomach acid], processed foods, consumption of vegetable oils specifically foods fried in rancid vegetable oils that have been hydrogenated, [cottonseed, soybean, corn, Crisco and other vegetable shortenings] consumption of sugar, excess alcohol intake, smoking loss of digestive enzymes, inadequate chewing, and large meals.

How do these factors cause the “hyper acidity”? Let’s say we just consumed a huge processed meal such as French fries, extra large soda and 2 hot dogs on white buns. The arrival of this large bolus in the stomach contains foreign chemicals and preservatives that the stomach does not recognize. Let’s add to that, insufficient chewing [digestion of foods starts in the mouth by proper chewing and salivary enzymes] and insufficient enzymes [which anyone eating the Standard American Diet has] will cause this mass to lay in the stomach-giving rise to fermentation and bacterial action. Fermentation expands and gives rise to gas and distension. As these gases rise, they are trapped in the esophagus causing distension and mimicking chest pain. This pull and tension of the overloaded stomach insults the gastro esophageal valve to the point where it is pulled open. This overstretched valve allows stomach acid and its contents along with the gases up into the esophagus. The esophagus, unlike the stomach does not contain acid secreting cells, and thus it is very sensitive to this acid. This action causes a burning sensation in the esophagus, which can mimic signs of a heart attack.

Physiology of the stomach

The stomach is a vat of acid. Specialized parietal cells secrete this acid. This acid is required to breakdown proteins [meat, fowl, fish, eggs, cheese, nuts and legumes] into its smallest units of amino acids. When acid production is neutralized or cellular function inhibited, food cannot be digested. Instead it will remain in the stomach, rotting, fermenting and putrefying by bacterial action. Thus, undigested carbohydrates ferment, undigested fats rancidify and undigested proteins putrefy. All this gives rise to gas, bloating, and indigestion and ultimately malnutrition.

Consequences and side effects associated with use of acid blockers
Long term health complications related to acid blockers are many and very severe. They include nutrient deficiencies, increased risk of stomach cancer, low immune function, poor digestion of proteins, osteoporosis, heart disease, depression, pernicious anemia, poor eye sight, paralysis, severe neurological problems and dementia to name a few. We will discuss each one in detail, including how to manage this condition by non-toxic methods.
Let’s start with stomach cancer. Your stomach is your second line of defense with regards to the pathogens ingested by food and water consumption. [The mouth and tonsils are the first line of defense]. Bacteria and viruses in our food and water are generally destroyed by stomach acid. Once this defense is down, the foreign
invaders travel to the small and large intestines where 2/3 of the immune system is located and create other problems such as Irritable Bowel Syndrome, arthritis, Colitis etc. A particular pathogen called Helicobacter Pylori is considered the main cause of stomach ulcers and can potentially lead to cancer. Yet many studies show that most people harbor these bacteria, but it only causes problems in certain individuals. H. Pylori survives in a state of hypochlorohydria that is inadequate stomach acid. Once it implants itself in the stomach it is generally treated with antibiotics.

Low Immunity

Immune cells are made of immunoglobulins, which are made up of protein from the food we eat. When protein digestion fails, there is inadequate protein to produce a strong immune system. A poor immune response can lead to any health problem from a simple cold to cancer and anything in between.

Osteoporosis

Calcium plays a major role in bone remodeling and is dependent on the presence of stomach acid for absorption. No stomach acid means no calcium absorption. So the idea of taking Tums® for calcium supplementation [which is recommended to all pregnant women by their doctors] is absurd and a great marketing ploy. Tums is nothing but calcium carbonate [lime stone/dirt], a chalk, which neutralizes stomach acid. If the acid is neutralized, how is the calcium absorbed? Bone matrix is much more than calcium, rather, it is a matrix of many nutrients that include: magnesium, phosphorous, boron, manganese, vitamin D3, vitamin K, vitamin B6 and folic acid for cell division to name a few. Taking just calcium without the other co-factors causes calcium to end up in soft tissues such as arteries, tendons, joints and teeth. A side note: lack of gallbladder leads to osteoporosis, weight gain, fat malabsorption, and immune disorders. Without bile, the body cannot break down fat; it cannot absorb fat-soluble vitamins such as vitamins A, D, E, K, and all fat-soluble co-factors such as Co Enzyme Q10, Lutein or any of the other carotenoids. Vitamin D deficiency is a major cause of osteoporosis and as well, deficiencies have been linked to various cancers.

Arthritis

Poor protein absorption causes the body to steal protein from joint surfaces, with the end results being arthritis. Glycoaminoglycans found in cartilage are composed of proteins. Thus, no protein digestion or absorption, no Glycoaminoglycans=arthritis.
Pernicious Anemia
This is a very prevalent condition in the elderly. Methylcobalamin is the active form of B12 and is the key nutrient to treat dementia. B12 absorption is dependent on intrinsic factor. What is intrinsic factor? Intrinsic factor is a protein made by the parietal cells in the stomach. These are the same cells that secrete stomach acid. These are the same cells that are destroyed by these potent acid blockers medications. B12 and several other vitamins are protein dependent and protein bound. In other words, once this nutrient is ingested, it does not travel by itself in the body, but it is escorted by protein. So if you don’t digest protein because it is putrefying in your gut because you are blocking stomach acid, how can B12 absorption take place? B12 deficiency is a very serious problem because it can mimic dementia. B12 deficiencies also cause irreversible paralysis and neurological disorders. A good way to make sure you get optimal amounts of B12 is to supplement daily with at least 1-5 mgs [NOT micrograms] of sub lingual B12 in the form of Methylcobalamin. Many of the elderly are being treated for dementia and depression with potent and dangerous anti-depressants, when in reality they are lacking a simple inexpensive vitamin. An important point to remember is that B12 is only found in animal products. There is no such thing as B12 from plant foods – that is a myth. B12 in plant foods are known as B12 analogs, which only increase the need for more B12. Don’t be fooled by food labels.

Heart Disease

By now most of us are familiar with the term homocysteine. Dr. Kilmer Mc Cully from Harvard first identified this marker in 1969. Unfortunately, Dr. McCully, a pathologist, got kicked out of Harvard for his theory that homocysteine causes heart disease, and not cholesterol. Dr. McCully lost all his funding and
it took him 30 years to get his name back. Just goes to show how politically motivated science is, and how in the interim people suffer from improper diagnosis and dangerous treatments. So what is homocysteine? It is a byproduct of the amino acid methionine. Problems occur when there is insufficient methylation to convert this byproduct into a non-toxic compound. What nutrients does this reaction require? It is very simple: ample amounts of B6, B12 and Folic acid in its three forms. In fact the prescription version of folic acid is useless as it contains only one form. So do not rely on your prescription to decrease your homocysteine levels. Once again, pharmaceutical industry got it wrong.
Let’s get back to digestion. Folic acid, like B12 is also protein bound and requires protein transport. So in a stomach where no acid exists, folic acid suffers the same fate as B12. Folic acid deficiencies cause neural tube defects [It took the FDA 30 years to admit this fact and to finally recommend supplements for women of child-bearing age, at the expense of thousands of babies born with birth defects and spinal deformities, not to mention their immeasurable suffering and the suffering of the parents], heart disease, cancer and Alzheimer due to elevated homocysteine levels. Insist on getting your homocysteine levels checked which should be about 7. Some labs have higher values.

Poor Eye Sight

As stated before, lack of stomach acid inhibits absorption of protein. The eyes rely heavily on protein for proper function. Thus one of the first organs to respond to lack of protein, are the eyes. Therefore, acid blockers are directly related to poor eye sight.

Acid Rebound

Taking these acid blockers on a regular basis eventually leads to rebound where the person will make excess acid once the medication is discontinued.
Side Effects of these drugs
Due to their cholinergic effects, some of these medications interfere with nerve function. Side effects of interfering with nerve function can lead to EKG abnormalities, potentially fatal ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation, nausea, constipation, anxiety, joint pain, hypertension, blood clots, impotence, headache and abdominal pain to name a few.
What Are The Non-Toxic Therapies To Managing This Condition?
We obviously need to start with a clean whole foods diet, free of processed foods and rancid fats. Eating fast and inadequate chewing must be addressed. If you are overweight, a weight reduction program will be of great help in this condition. To improve digestion, I always recommend digestive enzymes for anyone consuming the typical standard diet. Vital enzymes are only found in raw or fermented foods. The average person rarely consumes fermented foods such as non pasteurized sauerkraut, beet kvass, or other cultured vegetables that enhance digestion and absorption of nutrients. So every time we eat, we use up precious enzymes to digest food. That is why constant eating/grazing and chewing gum are a waste of precious enzymes. Enzymes, specifically, pancreatic enzymes, have thousands of functions including searching and destroying cancer cells. Therefore, eating excessively, eating sugar and refined carbohydrates we are constantly stressing our pancreas to secrete enzymes.
If there is an active ulcer, the medication must be continued until endoscopy shows a healing. Along with the medication, I recommend Gastrex®, from Standard Process, taken 10 minutes before meals. Gastrex® relieves gastritis and promotes healing of the gastrointestinal tract, especially the stomach and the first part of the intestines, the duodenum. This product quickly relieves an over acid stomach. Great for gastritis, heartburn, Chron’s, Irritable Bowel and stomach ulcers.

Okra Pepsin® from Standard Process is used in conjunction to heal any ulceration. This product also assists in improving digestion and assimilation of nutrients by removing mucous buildup from the intestinal walls.

Multizyme® from Standard Process are enzymes without the hydrochloric acid containing pancreatin, fig, almond and pineapple. They
assist in protein digestion and can be used during treatment of ulcers. Multizyme® can also be taken in between meals to alleviate muscolo skeletal pain.

Zypan® from Standard Process is a digestive enzyme containing hydrochloric acid, which should be used upon resolution of ulcer. Remember, acid reflux is more often than not caused by achlorohydria, that is low or lack of stomach acid. So supplementing with Zypan® will promote digestion, absorption and assimilation of foods, which will result in better health, and prevention of preventable diseases.

For individuals who eat large amount of protein, they would benefit from using Betaine HCL® 1-3 tablets per meal. In my practice, I have had great success using this product for many types of gastro-intestinal problems, including food allergies and sensitivities.

Cholacol® from Standard Process is a bile acid product. Bile is made in the liver and stored in the gallbladder. Bile is essential for absorption of fat soluble nutrients, and metabolism of fats. In addition, bile acts as a cleanser in the intestines to remove environmental toxins inhaled through the lungs. Bile acids must be supplemented if you have had your gall bladder removed to prevent all the health issues associated with lack of a gall bladder. Recommendations are 1-2 with each meal for the rest of your life.

Conclusion

Health starts in the digestive tract and death starts in the colon. Our basis for eating food is for it to give us energy to support life. The inability to digest our food and assimilate its nutrients is a sure prescription for many diseases. These western conditions are preventable. According to the National Academy of Science, 95% of all disease is caused by diet, the environment and lifestyle. Only 5% can be attributed to our genes. In essence we cannot blame our parents or grandparents for certain conditions. This is a way of shunning responsibility for our health. Our health is in our hands. Don’t wait for the government or your doctor to take care of your health, and don’t wait for HMOs to take care of you once you are sick. There is no day but today to take charge of your health and restore your vitality and health so that you may live a productive, healthy and long life.

To your enhanced digestion and optimal health.
Juliana Mazzeo, M.S., CDN ©2005
Medical Nutritionist

Also in this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrdNfaanpIs&feature=related - the practitioner shows how he treats hiatal hernia and says that those with hiatal hernia are usually holding a lot of stress and tension in that area that never gets let out. He shows how to release some of the tension and shows some other self help techniques.

I would also recommend getting off of the dairy and other allergens because those types of foods make me swell up and make my stomach issues much worse.
 
Eliminating problematic foods from the diet should do it. Multienzymes (digestive enzymes) are highly recommendable and another good choice as a helper for GERD is DGL:

_http://www.allstarhealth.com/lj_c/dgl_%28de-glycyrrhizinated_licorice%29.htm

DGL is used to soothe and aid the lining of the stomach, often by those with a history of ulcer, gastritis or GERD.

It is very soothing and can relieve the pain right away.

Antiacids block the absorption of nutrients like zinc, folic acid, B12, calcium, and iron. Long-term use of these medications can block all stomach acid. The esophageal sphincter is stimulated to close by the release of stomach acids, so antacids can actually make heartburn worse in the long term. Also, the stomach needs acid to break down proteins for digestion.
 
Hi Kila,
You might benefit from reading Sherry Rogers book 'No More Heartburn'. It has a small section on GERD, etc. Here is part of it:
No More Heartburn said:
Do not eat large meals that stretch out the valve (between the esophagus and stomach), but small frequent meals, and do not eat for three hours before going to bed. See the Parasympathetic protocol* for more detailed help here.
Make sure you have ruled out food allergy and Candida, since these are often the real culprits, despite X ray findings to the contrary. As I stated previously, we know this to be true by the virtue of this fact: Once folks have treated their Candida or food allergy, their symptoms usually disappear. This is so despite an X ray that reveals a hiatus hernia, albeit totally asymptomatic, and that does not require you to elevate the head of your bed for relief.
If you have a large and resistant herniation and are contemplating surgery, on the other hand, you may want to do a trial of natural-source antacid, made from aloe vera. Use Pure Aloe Vera, one to tow tablespoons or Aloe Gel Caps before bedtime and as needed through the night. For it is the leaking of gastric juice into the delicate esophagus that creates the burning.
Do not use spearmint and peppermint, as these carminatives (digestive stimulants) actually lower the pressure in the valve and can make the reflux worse. On the flip side, licorice root preparations containing DGL help normalize the pressure and stimulate protective mucus. Again, use the Rhizinate protocol.
Or use any of the remedies below for gastritis, especially Gastro-Relief (PhytoPharmica), because it contains calcium carbonate as a safe, aluminum-free antacid, as well as the healing DGL of Rhizinate.
About the Parasympathetic protocol:
Your nervous system functions in two distinct ways. The sympathetic nervous systems prepares you for fight or flight; it prepares you to defend yourself from an attacker, say, or to run like mad from a burning building. As most of the blood is shunted to your muscles and heart during such moments, the body must re-route blood from other areas that are not in so much need. As a result, the secretion of digestive juices slows to a halt, since blood is taken from the digestive tract.
The parasympathetic nervous system, on the other hand, energizes the glands, promotes healing and repair, and aids in digestion. So if you come home from a stressful day at the office, you must relax before you can reap the benefits of your parasympathetic nervous system.
If the TV is blaring with the latest action film interspersed with hard-sell commercials, for example, you may never get into the parasympathetic mode. Hence when you go to bed a few hours later, the undigested bolus of food that never moved out of your stomach will begin to ferment and bubble up into the esophagus. Since you're lying prone when you sleep, it's all too easy for it to leak back up into the esophagus and cause severe heart-burn and indigestion, even to the point of mimicking a heart attack.
Listen to soothing music, dim the lights, use unscented candles, have a relaxing conversation, give and receive a loving mini-massage, read a bit from your favorite book, take a warm bath, putter in the garden, play the piano or guitar, walk the dog, drink a cup of ginger tea, or watch a sunset: Do whatever you have to do to get into the parasympathetic mode before you begin to eat.
Never underestimate how intimately the gut is tied to the brain. In fact, the brain and emotions are as much a stimulant to the gut as is any food, bug, ulcer, or cancer. And the opposite is also true: The gut can stimulate other parts of the body. Be that as it may, never forget that you have absolute control over how threatening you perceive anything to be and how extensively you are going to allow it to affect your GI tract functions.
Considering the situation that you have been going through with your husband, etc the above may be playing a role in your problems.

Also, I was never diagnosed with GERD, but did have a problem with heartburn in the past. I think it was from a combination of drinking coffee, soda, not eating right and letting stress in the work place affect me. Once I got off the sugar, coffee and started to make changes to my diet the heartburn went away. You may find other information in the book helpful, so hope this may be of help.
 
Thank you all for the many useful responses.

I completely agree with the Standard Process Protocol outlined below
Okra Pepsin® from Standard Process is used in conjunction to heal any ulceration. This product also assists in improving digestion and assimilation of nutrients by removing mucous buildup from the intestinal walls.

Multizyme® from Standard Process are enzymes without the hydrochloric acid containing pancreatin, fig, almond and pineapple. They
assist in protein digestion and can be used during treatment of ulcers. Multizyme® can also be taken in between meals to alleviate muscolo skeletal pain.

Zypan® from Standard Process is a digestive enzyme containing hydrochloric acid, which should be used upon resolution of ulcer. Remember, acid reflux is more often than not caused by achlorohydria, that is low or lack of stomach acid. So supplementing with Zypan® will promote digestion, absorption and assimilation of foods, which will result in better health, and prevention of preventable diseases.

For individuals who eat large amount of protein, they would benefit from using Betaine HCL® 1-3 tablets per meal. In my practice, I have had great success using this product for many types of gastro-intestinal problems, including food allergies and sensitivities.

Cholacol® from Standard Process is a bile acid product. Bile is made in the liver and stored in the gallbladder. Bile is essential for absorption of fat soluble nutrients, and metabolism of fats. In addition, bile acts as a cleanser in the intestines to remove environmental toxins inhaled through the lungs. Bile acids must be supplemented if you have had your gall bladder removed to prevent all the health issues associated with lack of a gall bladder. Recommendations are 1-2 with each meal for the rest of your life.

Conclusion

I use and recommend Standard Process to my own clients. I believe I also have ulcers as the digestive enzymes and bitters hurt my stomach terribly. So... I have been using Gastrex and Okra Pepsin and Chlorophyl perles. However, the pills feel like they get sort of stuck on the way down. The bentonite clay combo is the only thing that offers relief. I am also drinking Kombucha. Yesterday I felt pretty good, quite a bit better, then someone offered me a piece of chocolate(warning: program alert) and I couldn't refuse....it was very tasty.. but ohhh I paid for it later.
I took the clay and some baking soda and had some relief and today my stomach doesn't hurt so I am being very careful.
Yes.. I do need to pay more attention and eat more regularly. It helps now that there is more money and more food available. There was a significant period of time last month and the month before where I was living on coffee and cigs until dinner which wasn't much either. I got where I didn't even want to eat. And then when I did eat it was totally not balanced.

The stress though over the last six months has been unrelenting as well.

In the book Awakening Intuition by Mona Lisa Schulz ( which I believe a lot of her work as an medical intuitive corresponds with Perts work) in the chapter on the Gastrointestinal Tract she lists the traits associated with this center as:

Adequacy:
Skills
Competence
Making it work

Responsibility:
Being caught in the middle

Aggressiveness:
Threat
Intimidation
Territoriality

Boundaries

Competiveness:
Winning
Gain

Inadequacy
Inferiority
Incompetence
Giving up

Irresponsibility

Addiction

Defensiveness
Restraint
Entrapment
Avoidance and escape

Limitations

Noncompetiveness
Losing and conceding
Loss


I have issues around all of these things. My skills and competence have been under scrutiny as I started a new job at a new clinic, I am hyper responsible, I have problems with boundaries, I respond aggressively to threats either real or perceived, I have felt trapped, I am struggling to 'make it work', on the flip side I will activate the 'give up' program, which is really 'self destruct mode'.

Last night, I had this memory resurface. While my mom was dying in the hospital I pretty much lived there in her room. I was 16 and then had my 17th birthday a month or so before she died. After being there about 3 weeks straight I went home and my dad took a shift. I was at home, and had showered and was laying in bed talking to my best friend on the phone, when the other line rang and I switched over and it was my dad. My mom had died.
I immediately got up and started cleaning the house. I remember my friend coming over and sort of following me around while I frantically cleaned.
I think something in me connected her death with my 'laziness/selfishness'. I also remember a few weeks later, after the funeral and the relatives had left and such, and I was in the house by myself, and I remember sitting down on the couch sort of at a loss, and picking up a magazine and just leafing through it, and feeling extremely anxious. I remember thinking how weird it felt that no one needed anything from me. I could just do anything I wanted, and how wrong that felt, very uncomfortable and ....shameful.

Just recently, I enrolled my two daughters in the little coop school around the corner from us. They really love it. I did it because I realized that I just can't do everything. And that it would really be best for them. That said, I felt so bad about shirking my responsibility that I promptly volunteered to teach a class and run the community garden, which I was in no way obligated to do.


So this is interesting all these behaviors that I am sorting out. But I am still at a loss as to how to change. I am working on changing the actions, but the accompanying feelings are very hard to change.

Also, I read the programs thread, and I do really relate to the self destruct program. I have had suicidal thoughts since I was oh...8 or 9. My life was very hard and abusive so that was a factor but it did seem like that there was more to it than that. I was never afraid of death and I just wanted to leave. I still feel that way frequently. Like if I could just leave....
Now my mom had a very strong self destruct program running and attempted suicide multiple times and finally developed cancer and died 18 months after diagnosis.
On one hand I live in constant fear that due to my sort of constant desire to 'get out', my body will listen as my mom's did and provide me with an exit. On one hand I think...just fine... On the other hand, I am devastated by the damage that would inflict on those who depend on me. The damage I myself received.
So, over the years I have been very diligent around nutrition and taking care of myself for years at a time then I'll just sort of say...Who CARES.. and do what I know is destructive behavior for me and my body. Even the seeking out of stress seems to me to be self destructive.
I remember being outside smoking a cigarette thinking, almost visualizing cancer cells. UGH

I totally believe in how potent thought forms are and can be...and how destructive this pattern is...but it seems to have a will of it's own.

I had a friend last night tell me 'kila you just need about two weeks in the woods by yourself and you would feel great.' And that is how I used to sort of stay sane. I would just leave and wander around the mountains for a few weeks. The last time I did that I was pregnant with my first child, just barely pregnant. I had my last hike and my last cigarette for about 10 years.

It also seems at least right now, that there really just isn't anything I enjoy ...really enjoy. I have no enjoyment in life at all. And I don't even know how to go about fixing that. I can do things for myself but only if they are justified and only with whatever resources are left over after everyone else has been satisfied.

This is just sickening...

But I'm not sure how to even begin to change this.

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Kila said:
But I'm not sure how to even begin to change this.

Hi Kila, have you finished reading the Big 5 psychology books yet? I think that these books may have many helpful strategies for your problems.

Also I think that if you remove the harmful foods from your diet and continue to detox that you will probably feel much better and begin to have a lot more enjoyment in life.

Have you been doing the EE program regularly?
 
Kila said:
I had a friend last night tell me 'kila you just need about two weeks in the woods by yourself and you would feel great.' [..] It also seems at least right now, that there really just isn't anything I enjoy ...really enjoy. I have no enjoyment in life at all. And I don't even know how to go about fixing that. I can do things for myself but only if they are justified and only with whatever resources are left over after everyone else has been satisfied.
[..]
But I'm not sure how to even begin to change this.

Kila, it sounds like your energy is about depleted, and you really need to do something about it. You are a survivor and rely on strength, drive and intelligence to get through your challenges; and you keep going, while a weaker person would have already folded in your place. The danger is that if you don't quit before you are stretched past the breaking point, your body may decide to quit on you, one way or the other, to force you to slow down. Going out in the woods is a great idea, but may not be enough, and lasting changes may take quite a bit longer than that.

If I were you, I would drop all the non-essential activities and just be still for most of the day, if that's what it takes. Your value is not in what you do for others. There's nothing wrong and shameful in being weak or taking care of yourself.

And one more thing to keep in mind. If one is always doing things for others, that also prevents them from doing things for themselves or for you, by not leaving them any room or necessity for that. One is then rightfully disappointed at the lack of help and care from others. Perhaps, if you were to slow down and stop carrying the weight of the world upon your shoulders, you may be surprised to find that others around you rise to the occasion and pick up more responsibilities and things. This may not happen, but still, it may help to think that if you were to slow down, your world most likely will not come to standstill and crash.

I hope that such shift of prospective, and the continued breathing, may make a difference in your outlook. Please keep us posted.
 
Hi Kila, have you finished reading the Big 5 psychology books yet? I think that these books may have many helpful strategies for your problems.

Also I think that if you remove the harmful foods from your diet and continue to detox that you will probably feel much better and begin to have a lot more enjoyment in life.

Have you been doing the EE program regularly?


I have read The Narcissistic Family, Trapped in the Mirror, The Myth of Sanity and am now reading Unholy Hungers. I am also reading Children of the Self Absorbed.

I believe my diet is essentially fine. As I mentioned in my previous post based on Laura's recommendations, or cliff notes version of Detox or Die, this is essentially the diet I am following.

Just want to add:

Here are the general rules:

Eat a lot of leafy green vegetables every day. Try to have kale, collards, cooked spinach, chard or bok choy every day.

Include some grains every day from the list.

You can eat fish, shellfish, organic chicken, turkey, or beef once a day.

Have dried, cooked beans every day

Have nuts and seeds every day.

Have a serving of berries every day.

Have a serving of beets every day.

Eat lots of garlic.

Use organic cold-pressed oils to cook: olive oil, coconut oil, sesame oil, grape seed oil.

Use organic butter in moderation.

Take 1 to 2 tablespoons of flaxseed oil every day.

Sweeten with Stevia.

Drink natural spring water, distilled or filtered water only.

Have organic herbal teas as often as you like.

Eat sea vegetables a few times a week: dulse, nori, arame, wakame, kombu and hijiki. All of these are very high in magnesium.

Soak your nuts before eating them if possible.

Soak your rice and other grains overnight before cooking.

Soak dried beans overnight with teaspoon of baking soda then discard water and wash again before cooking.

Use sea salt.

Make your own mayonnaise from organic egg yolks, grape seed oil and fresh lemon or lime juice and organic dijon mustard.



Avoid like the plague the following:

All refined and processed foods such as cookies, cakes, doughnuts, bagels, breads, etc.
Lunch meats and hotdogs.
Soy products and soy protein powders.
All sugars including fructose, corn syrup.
Diet products of any kind.
All dairy products except organic butter and free range eggs.
Coffee and tea. Period
Any foods containing hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils.
Any foods with MSG or "hydrolyzed vegetable protein".
All alcohol
All fruit juices and sodas
Commercial iodized salt.

My rule is essentially, could I eat that while wearing a loin cloth and carrying a pointed stick? No? Then I probably don't need to eat that.
That said, there are still some adjustments I could make. One was the eggs and nuts which I have cut out completely. Chocolate, even good chocolate. And caffeine, which I also cut out completely.
Personally, I try to avoid grains and legumes if possible as they are full of anti nutrients unless fermented. But it gets pretty pricey just on good meat, fruits and vegetables.
The one caveat I have is around dairy. While I agree completely with the studies around the deleterious effects of milk I believe it's important to consider that these studies were conducted using non organic, pasteurized, homogenized milk. Raw milk is a different animal all together. Raw fermented milk is again another thing altogether. And while I have found that some people ( due to genetic predisposition) do not tolerate any kind of milk, many do well on some dairy if it is from healthy grass fed animals and is raw and/or fermented/cultured.
Something similar could be said about meat. There are many studies that seem to indicate that animal fat and meat are linked to various cancers. In my opinion, a great deal of this is disinfo and the studies must be considered carefully and critically, particularly in respect to the quality of the meat consumed in the study. Hopefully soon I will be able to post something around this. In a nutshell I have read scores of books on nutrition over the years and have correlated this with what I know about physical and cultural anthropology and would say that animal foods are essential to human health. But again quality is paramount, and the quality of our food, in general, is abysmal. So, sometimes it is just really really hard. So when I've been so poor I haven't been able to afford good meat, then I do eat more beans and corn.


And yes I am doing EE



The good news is I am feeling much much better. I have eaten today and my stomach feels sooo much better. So, I will stay with the protocol I am currently on for a while. The breathing I know is really accelerating the healing process.


Drinking my licorice tea and sending everyone my gratitude.

Thanks to all for your support and encouragement.

Oh I have also just ordered Detox or Die and am looking forward to reading it and adding it my library.
 
If I were you, I would drop all the non-essential activities and just be still for most of the day, if that's what it takes. Your value is not in what you do for others. There's nothing wrong and shameful in being weak or taking care of yourself.

And one more thing to keep in mind. If one is always doing things for others, that also prevents them from doing things for themselves or for you, by not leaving them any room or necessity for that. One is then rightfully disappointed at the lack of help and care from others. Perhaps, if you were to slow down and stop carrying the weight of the world upon your shoulders, you may be surprised to find that others around you rise to the occasion and pick up more responsibilities and things. This may not happen, but still, it may help to think that if you were to slow down, your world most likely will not come to standstill and crash.

Thank you... I'm working on it... some things have come up around this and I hope to post something around this soon. But yes... what can I say...I'm working on it. And I do know it's not a quick fix at all. I am just really coming to see just how many things I just 'do' for others that they really could do for themselves.

Tonight I am planning to talk to the husband about budgeting(now he is getting paid) and who will pay for what etc. Trying not to think too much about it or my stomach starts to notice... :cry:
 
Just a quick update.

Wanted to let everyone know I am feeling much much better.

I would say I am mostly healed. I do have an appointment with a gastroenterologist tomorrow though. I'm not sure if I really want the endoscopy. On the one hand it might be useful to really get a good look at that hernia. On the other hand, not so keen on going under sedation.

Here is the protocol I used in case this may prove useful to anyone in the future.

In the morning I drink Pau D'Arco tea first thing followed by very sour raw goat yogurt (http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html)

Next comes 'coffee on the back porch' as Laura puts it.

Then I would have a shake with so some low acid fruit and rice milk

I stopped using eggs and nuts pretty ( thanks for pointing out that connection) early on. And I just began to really notice what I wasn't digesting and/or what really made my stomach hurt.
I cut out all grains, aside from the homemade rice milk. Later I could eat some of the soupy rice porridge.

lunch was raw meat of some kind(fish or lamb typically) and salad, or in the beginning I would made a green smoothie as I just couldn't chew it enough to get it down.

With lunch I would take an herbal formula from my TCM practitioner to increase liver function and bile secretion as well as 'tame the fire in the stomach'. I also got accupuncture once a week. I also took:

From Premier labs:
Max Stress B (end chain, living B vitamins liquid)
DHLA Nano Plex(DHLA/resveratol formula)

From Standard Process(I have to offer this line with the caveat that it does contain calcium stearate)
Gastrex
Okra pepsin
chlorophyll perles


Dinner was always light. Salad, maybe some steamed vegetables, some fish. More yogurt.

Before bed a cup of water with a tsp of Bentonite clay and one dropperful of 500 ppm silver. Sometime aloe vera.

To address some of the emotional aspects I am going through I took 2 Bach remedies Elm and Willow. Elm says that it 'restores your natural strength and optimism when you are temporarily overwhelmed or burdened by responsibility. And Willow says that it 'helps you to forgive your injustices and move one when you feel resentful and bitter.' I also took rescue remedy occasionally.

I also sipped licorice, marshmallow, slippery elm, chamomile tea throughout the day. After about 10 days it seemed the ulcers had healed and I
didn't have 'fire' in my stomach anymore, or the sense that food would get stuck entering my stomach, particularly pills. Just an overfull sensation whenever I ate anything and 15 minutes after I ate the feeling that it was crawling up my throat and referred pain in my 5th rib both anterior and posterior.
Later when my stomach was less raw I added a variety of digestive enzymes with meals as needed
as well as garlic, black pepper and turmeric and really began to focus on liver function as well as the mechanical aspects of GERD. Even once I couldl eat food I couldn't tolerate fat, animal or vegetable, very well at all.

I have seen my favorite manual therapist for deep abdominal work addressing the hernia and related issues. I saw my hypnotherapist and released some nasty junk in my throat and solar plexus and stomach.

I have raised the head of my bed 2 inches.

Also jumping or bouncing increases the tone of the esophageal sphincter, so I was jumping on a mini trampoline, but now I'm just going to the gym and jogging on the treadmill for about 20 minutes a day and then getting in the sauna for 20 minutes. I think that has a mechanical effect but it is absolutely essential to my mental health, and I realized how much I missed it and how important daily physical exercise is for me.

I read a book a long time ago called Running as Therapy, while I was running and, for me at least, it's the best therapy I every had. http://www.amazon.com/Running-As-Therapy-Integrated-Approach/dp/076570093X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266261160&sr=8-1


Oh one final thing. I found this product called Cell Food http://www.luminahealth.com/

and I will say I have been taking plant based colloidal minerals for years. But I had immediate improvement once I started taking this. I also started immediately experiencing detox symptoms(sweats, raised basal temp, headache, foggy head) and now have a lot more energy, I am not waking up during the liver hours(2-4 am) and my stomach is almost completely healed.


Today I had blueberries, raw sprouted buckwheat granola, raw milk for breakfast and two little steaks fried up in bacon fat and kale for lunch. And my stomach feels immensely better.
 
thank you for the update and for sharing your healing protocol! Valuable information there, I'll sure use it if my own stomach issues recur. Wishing you continued healing,
 
So I saw the gastroenterologist yesterday and he wants to do the endoscopy. I will say I am just really nervous about the sedation, even though it is conscious sedation. Maybe I am just being paranoid. But it just seems like to me that that would be a prime opportunity for attack. I will be in twilight sleep. I'll say ever since I began doing this 'work' things in my life have imploded. This doesn't surprise me as it has been a pattern in my life. I will be on the brink of discovering something or having some kind of very important insight and it's like everything in my life conspires against me. I have just learned to sort of accept it and push through it. In fact, it was shortly after finding this site that all this started with my stomach. But I really really really don't like the idea of losing consciousness. He did say he was willing to do it without sedation so maybe I should take that route. I've done harder things to be sure....and then again I am making such rapid improvement maybe I should just skip it altogether....and then again there might be some critical piece of information I need to protect my health in the future I will learn from the test. I dunno... UGH.


I would really appreciate Psyche's opinion as to the value of the test.
 
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