Satanic Ritual Abuse at McMartin Preschool

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Hi all,

I'm just wondering if anyone has done research on the supposed satanic ritual abuse at Mcmartin preschool (which was proven false at trial). Or, if anyone has any opinions concerning the topic at all.

I don't know much about "Satanic Ritual Abuse" I read the wiki page though. I just recently went over the "Greenbaum" speech a second time. it had a kind of dramatic effect on me emotionally this time around. If what dr. hammand supposes exists, it just makes me very sad :(

basically what interests me in this topic is some strange memories I have at a private pre-school I attended from ages 3-5. I have memories of physical abuse not sexual abuse. I don't necessarily think I'm a victim of satanic ritual abuse but I think it could be possible (low probability). more-so my experience just predisposes me to interested in the topic i think. more likely i was a victim of un-organized child abuse. it's bound to happen in most daycares.

there was this post I composed but never posted it to these forums. I am going to quote some of it below. i didn't mean to make this a personal post, but maybe some of you would like to read it.
This happened when I was in pre-school age 4-5 maybe. I have a memory of one of the teachers grabbing my arm, holding me up and then slapping me in front of all the kids, because I had tried to knock down some fort that he had constructed and that we had all been playing in. Then I remember both me and my twin brother, not getting any snack when all the other kids did.

Also I have this memory about nap time. I remember not being able to fall asleep a lot, and making noise. One of the teachers would take me out of the room and lay my stomach over her knee till it hurt really bad, and I would cry. I remember this happening maybe 3 times.

Also once I remember one of the teachers Dan, who I became friends with and have vivid memories about taking me out of the nap room because I was making noise. I was so happy because he was always nice to both me and my brother, and so he didn't give me any punishment, instead we talked about the pictures on the wall. Most of the kids in including me and my brother called him Dan Dan the garbage man. About him, i also remember he would eat the orange peel of an orange because he said it was healthy, and so me and my brother started doing it too.

Dan had all these spiders, and insects that were in one of the rooms for the kids to look at. I remember vividly he had a tarantula. He also had a millipede too, that the kids could hold, and I held it once. about 6 inches long maybe.

Also I remember we went over to Dan's house once. I don't remember the circumstances but I think my mom would have thought it a good idea because we didn't have a father-figure in our life. thing is his house was full of snakes and lizards in these cages. Like all over. He had tons of reptiles in glass boxes. A whole 'zoo' basically. It didn't freak me out though, I thought it was cool. Also interesting is that he had no food at his house. at his house we ate tuna with cheese in the micro-wave.

For what ever reason I remember we only went over to his house that one time, and I was kind of disappointed because I wanted to go back.
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Also, I'll just add-- during preschool I didn't have many child-friends. my "friends" were a few teachers and my brother. I didn't make friends my age till I went to kindergarten. I find this reserved behavior correlative with some time of physical abuse if my memories are factual. what I am trying to get at is I don't think I interacted with kids much in preschool. I don't have too memories to begin with however.

I was reading the "Archaeological Investigations of the McMartin Preschool site , Manhattan Beach, California"
_http://whale.to/b/stickel.html

this quote really made me scared
The emphatic correlation of definitive observations for this tunnel entrance feature is especially significant in view of its location: the decision was made to explore this precise area because some of the children had stated that there had been animal cages placed along the wall and they had entered a tunnel under the cages at that point (cf. Langenwalter, et al, 1985: 13).
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I have these memories of dreams i guess when I was really young under 5 years of age. I would be in this room with this lady with "poisonous skin" and she would hang animal cages on the ceiling.

really unrelated but it really freaked me out and reminded me of this dreams. the "poisonous skin lady" was like a recurring nightmare I had.
 
I really can't afford to spend any more time on this topic with my current life the way it is. At least that is how I feel. And I can't be bothered to dig into any more primary documents besides the few I have looked at.

after some more research. I am inclined to agree with the analysis given by Alex Constantine [_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Constantine] in a short article i believe he wrote in 1996.

its located here: _http://mcmmartinpreschooltrial.wordpress.com/category/mcmartin-preschool-revisited/
 
We mentioned it in a sott podcast in August 2006. See transcript here:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6721.0

It is also mentioned in a post here:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1340.msg6583#msg6583

But no, there does not seem to be a thread about it.

I did write about it in an indirect way in Secret History, after giving a lot of time to researching that case and others (and also wrote about it in The Wave). Here's the quote from Secret History:

Notice the dates in the above quote from Dolan’s book telling us that in the early 70s certain technologies were being developed that could “broadcast” signals over the entire nation. We certainly suspect that this technology was developed further in the subsequent years. The question is: what did they do with it? Better yet, what ARE they doing with it?

What strikes me as an essential turning point in this COINTELPRO operation was the beginning of the “expose” of two particular items that hold sway in certain “conspiracy” circles to this very day: Alien Abduction and Satanic Ritual Abuse.

The Gray alien scenario was “leaked” by Budd Hopkins. Whitley Strieber’s alien abduction books, including Communion, followed a few years after. Prior to the publication of these books, the ubiquitous “Gray aliens” had never been seen before. In fact, a review of the history of “contact” cases show that the type and variety and behavior of “aliens” around the world are quite different across the board. But, along came Budd, followed by Whitley and his glaring alien on the cover, and suddenly the Grays were everywhere.

In respect of Whitley and his Grays, allow me to emphasize one of Dolan’s comments quoted above: “By early 1969, teams within the CIA were running a number of bizarre experiments in mind control under the name Operation Often. In addition to the normal assortment of chemists, biologists, and conventional scientists, the operation employed psychics and experts in demonology.” This, of course, brings us to the parallel event of that period of time: Satanic ritual abuse. SRA is the name given to the allegedly systematic abuse of children (and others) by Satanists.

As it happens, keeping our timeline in mind, it was in the mid to late 1970s that the allegations of the existence of a “well-organized intergenerational satanic cult whose members sexually molest, torture and murder children across the United States”, began to emerge in America. There was a panic regarding SRA triggered by a fictional book called Michelle Remembers. The book was published as fact but has subsequently been shown by at least three independent investigators to be a hoax. No hard evidence of Satanic Ritual Abuse in North America has ever been found, just as no hard evidence of abductions by Gray aliens has ever been found. Nevertheless, the allegations were widely publicized on radio and television talk shows, including Geraldo Rivera’s show.

Religious fundamentalists promoted the hysteria and, just as during the Inquisitions, endless self-proclaimed “moral entrepreneurs” both fed the fires of prosecution and earned a good living from it. Most of the early accusations of satanic ritual abuse were aimed at working-class people with limited resources, and with a few exceptions, the media and other groups that are ordinarily skeptical either remained silent or joined in the feeding frenzy of accusations. The few professionals who spoke out against the hysteria were systematically attacked and discredited by government agencies and private organizations.

The question has to be asked: If there are thousands of baseless accusations of SRA and thousands upon thousands of cases of unverifiable alien abductions, how do they originate?

Most of the SRA cases are said to originate with children. Since there is a widespread belief that children wouldn’t make up stories of eating other children or being forced to have sex with giraffes after flying in an airplane while they were supposed to be in day care, the stories are often taken at face value by naive prosecutors, therapists, police officers and parents. Researchers have found that children are unlikely to invent stories of satanic ritual abuse on their own. So, where do the stories come from?

Accusing the therapists, district attorneys, police and parents of inducing such stories from children doesn’t seem to be a very productive answer. Yes, it may happen in some cases, but certainly doesn’t seem likely in the vast number of cases.

Now, let’s go back and think about our timeline. As it happens, Michelle Remembers was published in 1980, co-written by Michelle Smith and Lawrence Pazder, M.D. Budd Hopkins finished Missing Time in December of 1980, with an “afterward” by Aphrodite Clamar, Ph.D.

It’s looking pretty “coincidental” from where I sit.

What occurs to me - putting the pieces of the puzzle together - is that there is some general kind of imagery being widely broadcast in the “neutral cavity” described above, and that it depends a lot on the individual and their cultural programming how it “takes”. When we consider the fact that Operation Often employed “the normal assortment of chemists, biologists, and conventional scientists” and “psychics and experts in demonology”, we begin to think that electronic COINTELPRO includes a whole supermarket of new “beliefs” - Gray aliens and “alien contacts” for the New Age crowd and a whole range of “sexual/ritual abuse scenarios” for those who are not open to the alien shtick.

Is the whole thing beamed out as some sort of “free-formal imaging”, and, based on the conscious acceptance of one or another version, it takes on its individual characteristics in the minds of the millions of recipients? In other words, is it picked up by the subconscious in alpha states or in sleep, perceived as traumatic in a general scenario that can then be interpreted by the individual belief systems in terms of either being examined and or sexually manipulated by aliens on a table or “raped on an altar” by Satanists? Are the public productions, books by Hopkins, Strieber, and the SRA scandals, just variations on the closing of the circuit by the conscious mind accepting or creating one or the other scenario as the explanation for the constant bombardment of such signals as described in Dolan’s book? Is it the job of COINTELPRO to create “bogus organizations” that produce various “explanations” to close the circuit and “make it real” in the person’s mind?

One has to wonder about the name of the program: Operation Often in terms of the claims of abductees - victims of repeated and “often” abductions - as well as the claims of those who suggest the SRA explanation. In either case, the believer is being “herded” into a “response camp” of either faith in alien saviors, or faith in Jesus to save them from the demonic/satanic Illuminati, Jews, Pagans - take your pick.

Let me make it clear that I am in no way suggesting that “abductions” or some whacked out satanic rituals do not ever take place somewhere, under some circumstances. What I am suggesting is that the Gray Alien and SRA phenomenon most certainly was not restricted in any way by COINTELPRO, and may indeed be the smoke and mirrors that hides a far more insidious state of affairs.

In essence, Dolan’s book shows us the history of how the many levels of society have been duped and deceived - or directly controlled - from the average citizen, to the seeker of higher truths, to the scions of science and industry, to the hallowed halls of government. Each “type” has been targeted in the way most likely to “manage” them best. Those who cannot be “managed” generally die, as scientist James McDonald, and others, did.
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Dave McGowan's Programmed to Kill goes into it extensively IIRC. Tried to find something directly about it on his website but I guess he only gets into it in his book.
 
Laura,


I have a theroy in regards to SRA and the timeline it originated in, and would like your feedback on it as well as that of the rest of the group.

For those who do not know, my biological father, after returning from Viet Nam, murdered my four and half year old half sister when I was eighteen months old, in front of me. It was brutal- she had over 150 overlapping bruises on her body. She was literally beaten to death.

As you can imagine, this incident impacted my life a great deal, in many ways. I have studied SRA a great deal, as well as much more relating to the "dark side" because of it. There is something that sticks out to me, that is not glaringly obvious, but became obvious to me over time from picking it up over and over in small tidbits- a newspaper article here, a blog by someone there, an activist newsletter, an Army Times article, etc , tons of small threads, that there was a pattern that developed when these soldiers returned from Viet Nam. Women, and children especially, were being killed, and abused, all over the country by these returned soldiers. I have found a plethora of incidents over the years around the same area where it happened to my family in Fort Bragg NC. It happened to us in late 1971. Now, interestingly enough, not too long after that, The Jeffery McDonald case happened. That was early 72 I think. Movies were made and it was senasationalized. Same area- Fort Bragg. Mc Donald was a military doctor. The murders were supposedly done by Santanists. His two little girls were killed.

So , my theory is, SRA was originally a cover for what was actually happening with these returned soldiers. Maybe the signals were being used to distract from this?

Beacuse my father was still in service when this happened- we lived on base and the victims of many others I have found did also- he was court martialled- there was no public trial. So no public records- no media access. I am sure that would have been the cases with all of the others as well.

My father served a total of fours years in military prison ,was given a college education while detained, and was released on good behaviour.
 
EH, I agree. The wide publicity that SRA received made me think that it was a smokescreen. Maybe it is for killing crazy soldiers, or maybe just a handy thing to pull out of the hat whenever needed. It could also be used to make things sound so crazy that the truth that is chilling enough, will never be believed. And I don't doubt that some of those crazy elites DO get into horrible child slavery, pedophilia, even snuff sex with children. There are some really sick, sick, sick people on this planet.
 
Thanks everyone for contributing to this topic. I still wonder sometimes what is really going on behind these situations. Very interesting theory EH!
 
Here we go, Chapter 4 of Programmed to Kill is about the abuse case. I transcribed some bits from the intro and closing paragraphs. If anyone wants me to get a certain part tell me and I can transcribe more

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...The McMartin case was, of course, the largest and most well publicized of the multi-victim, multi-perpetrator ritual abuse cases that captured headlines in the 1980s. It was also a case that was grotesquely mis-represented by the media, both mainstream and 'alternative'--perhaps nowhere more so than in the appalling writings of Nation columnist Alexander Cockburn, who went so far as to write an op-ed piece entitled "The McMartin Case: Indict the Children, Jail the Parents,: which ran in the Wall Street Journal on February 8, 1990.

Virtually everyone agrees that the children of Mc Martin were victimized. There is considerable debate, of course, over whether that victimization was by abusive caretakers, or by overzealous therapists and prosecutors. Either way, Cockburn's stance on the case was unconscionable and should have sent a clear signal to the progressive community that there was considerably more to the McMartin allegations than met the eye. The harsh reality is that the McMartin Preschool, in conjunction with at least two other Manhattan Beach preschools and on babysitting service, was the center of a very large child prostitution and child pornography ring whose operations appear to have been protected and covered up by any number of local, state and federal officials.

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Another notable aspect of the McMartin trials is that the defense team was allowed to subject the child witnesses to the longest pretrial hearing in the nation's history. Facing a battery of as many as seven rapid defense attorneys, the already severely traumatized children were verbally assaulted for weeks on end in a deliberate attempt to break them. The state made little effort to protect these young victim/witnesses.

In the final analysis, the logical conclusion to be drawn from the McMartin case is that 460 kids did not all conspire to lie about the abuse they suffered. They also did not likely lie about their forced involvement in child prostitution and child pornography. They certainly did not lie about the tunnels under the school. They probably did not lie about their forced involvement in satanic rituals, in which adults sheathed in black ceremonial robes uttered chants. In fact, at least one such robe was seized from the home of a defendant. And perhaps most tragically, there is good reason to believe that they did not lie about the blood sacrifices.
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I really don't know what to think of the SRA meme. It exploded on the scene as if over night. I have seen it connected (in the media, of course) to witch covens and other pagan groups, which, in hindsight, could have been a tool to discredit such groups. But it also comes up in cases involving child abuse by clergy. I have wondered if it was created as a distraction away from true paedophile rings.

In Cornwall, Ontario, Canada, we have had an ongoing case of paedophilia, involving community members of all social ranks, including high level clergy, elected officials and police as the predators. These cases span several decades.

Although this case involved dozens of victims, if not significantly more, claiming a large array of abusers, the only person ever convicted was a school bus driver. It obviously helps to have wealth (Catholic Church) to pay hush money and both collegial perpetrators and friends in high places (police officers and chief, crown attorney, judge, etc.).

In only a few of the victim claims, there were cases of ritual abuse, although I cannot say they were specifically satanic, except that these incidents involved religious ritual.

The one that stands out in my mind allegedly involved a witness who saw two altar boys with candles inserted in their rectums (_http://www.projecttruth2.com/Ron%20Leroux%20Affidavit.htm)

An outside police force was brought in to investigate (Project Truth), that reported while some claims might have some validity, there was no evidence of a paedophile ring.

When I was a journalist, I had contacted a survivor (Dick Nadeau - now deceased) who was trying to get the case re-opened. I could not believe how much research he had performed. He even had the backing of their provincial elected member of parliament (we have three levels of elected government: municipal, provincial and federal). After many years another inquiry was called (Project Truth 2). Once again, almost the same results. I think we are on a third inquiry with a slightly different scope.

There were several interesting things I gleaned through affidavits and testimony. One was that there was a Florida connection, where paedophiles from Cornwall, Ontario would bring boys to Fort Lauderdale and share/swap with paedophiles in Texas. Police investigators from Ontario did go to Florida and did find some evidence, but were never able to fully complete the necessary connections.

It was also interesting to note that the victim I had originally interviewed, who was documenting his research on a website (_http://www.projecttruth2.com/) was somehow, due to statements made on his website, no longer allowed to post to his website without the content first being vetted by a staff sergeant with the regional Ontario Provincial Police detachment. I believe it was court ordered, although I never followed up to verify. I had never come across such a situation before, nor have I since. This guy was no nut, although he was certainly frustrated at obvious obstacles being placed in his way as he tried to amass as much information as possible on the investigations.

I just visited the website with my BlackBerry and see the links on the site do not work. If the links have been disabled for some odd reason, a Google site search might uncover some content:
_http://www.google.ca/m?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.projecttruth2.com%2F

The community has been polarized and is no longer the cohesive city it once was. Even families have been torn apart by these inquiries that went nowhere.

I left journalism soon after, as I could no longer make a living on the ever-declining wages, so I dropped my investigation. This story, however, had a traumatizing effect on me and helped me realize how easy it actually is to bury evidence and silence witnesses when corrupted officials are involved.

Since I never researched SRA, I really don't know to what degree child abuse by clergy fits into the overall theme, but I would certainly be interested in knowing more.

I hope I haven't drifted off the intention of this thread and apologize if I did.

Gonzo
 
Hey thanks Laura. I listened to the podcast. It is very interesting and it was nice to hear the ww2 history about SRA. I was also fascinated with the motives you guys discuss for why SRA is carried out.

in some ways the Mcmartin abuse seems implausible. I mean, I would really like to look at a history of these perpetrators who were accused. They seem like average people, not scientist or government persons.

I found the excerpt in SH interesting but I don't think I understand it fully. It is interesting to consider perhaps the relationship of the two different phenomenon: alien abduction and Satanic ritual abuse. both obviously are similar in the fact that they occur throughout a persons life sometimes without them ever knowing it. And both at very early ages. still they are distinct different things. due to their similarity though a lot of times what I have noticed is people that accept one of the phenomenon's in their reality don't accept the other.

for instance I believe Dr. Hammond dismisses alien abduction as incredulous. somewhere this in is the greenbaum transcripts.
Q: It seems to me that there seems to be some similarity between these kinds of programming and those people who claim that they've been abducted by spaceships and have had themselves physically probed and reprogrammed and all of that sort of thing. Since Cape Canaveral is across the Florida peninsula from me and I don't think that they've reported any spaceships lately, I was just wondering is there any sort of relationship between this and that?

Dr.H: I'll share my speculation, that comes from others really. I've not dealt with any of those people. However, I know a therapist that I know and trust and respect who I've informed about all this a couple of years ago and has found it in a lot of patients and so on, who is firmly of the belief that those people are in fact ritual-abuse victims who have been programmed with that sort of thing to destroy all their credibility. If somebody's coming in and reporting abduction by a flying sauce who's going to believe them on anything else in the future? Also as a kind of thing that can be pointed to and said, "This is as ridiculous as that."

All I know is that I recently had a consult, a telephone consult, with a therapist where I had been instructing her about some of this kind of stuff. When we were consulting at one point in the fifth or sixth interview she said, "By the way, do you know anything about this topic?" I said, "Well, not really" and shared with her what I shared with you. I said, "If it were me being with this guy..." that she'd been seeing for a couple of months, I said, "I would ask inside for the core to take control of finger-signals and inquire about Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta." She proceeded to do all that, got back to me a week later and said, "Boy, were you on target. There is a part inside named Dr. Green. There's this kind of programming."
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It seems like above, the questioner might actually consider alien abduction plausible but it is explained away Dr. Hammond with the concept of SRA. At the same time perhaps some abduction memories are truly false. I think I have read that through HAARP. false abduction experiences could be planted.

I'm curious as to what the "alien abduction" community (if there is a community like such) thinks about SRA. specifically people like David M. Jacobs or Hobbs--I think that's his name.

The wide publicity that SRA received made me think that it was a smokescreen.
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I was reading that to a lot of the parents of the school, the publicity was quite amazing to them. they still don't understand how the case became so big and received national attention. The Mcmartin case became a national "event" but that doesn't lead me to believe it is a smokescreen . I mean, in the end the whole thing was debunked by the FBI and it was decided some kind of systematic SRA never occured. central to the debunking was a therapist which posed leading questions to the children being interviewed. I think possibly if in fact SRA did occur--what better way to hide it then to draw national attention to the matter, have corrupted evidence, have many kids lie, and then in the end have all the perpetrators walk away. the case is basically cited in mainstream literature today I think as evidence for the suggestibility of kids and "overactive" imagination. how many people aware of the incidence actually think "satanic ritual abuse" was carried out. I think very few. if the mainstream consensus is that SRA did not occur, then probably it did occur, is what I am saying.

What could SRA be a smokescreen for? Child pornography operations... possibly[for example 'lets hide our pornography operations by satanically abusing the children. this does two things: the children will not talk, second no one believes in SRA--it is too evil']. Child Pornography is related maybe. I don't know much about child pornography. I can't grasp that high level government could be involved. government has strict regulations of it. atually its illegal. Also how would that work out if government is involved. it thrives due to a sickness in the common populace. i don't know...

Another thing to think about is the fact that kids are not suppose to be able to recall SRA for the most part I do not think. If SRA was carried out, certainly mistakes were made which lead to the ensuing trial, but eventual "cover-up" some might say, or debunking.

In an article I read which I linked above there is quite a few parental deaths associated with the case. And many of the kids of course did testify to the fact that their families were threatened if they told. allegedly animals were tortured in front of the kids to show what would happen to the parents :cry:
and turtle/dog/and chicken bones were found years later on the site. there was an excavation of the school site --parent lead-- but if I remember correctly it was post-trial when the controversy had died down.
 
In doing my research, I found a string of things that connected, in regards to the angle I was looking at it from. I am going off of memory here, so I may miss a few. I will add in dates for things discussed in this thread also, such as the church and the McMartin case, so we can put it into context. I was also trying to figure out, what events were injected into the public consciousness to even support the idea of SRA, and bring "Satan" , "evil", and " "cults" into focus . I was not ever looking at the abduction slant so I cannot address that. But I will list for you all what stands out to me. Keep in mind my prior post, and how it relates to Fort Bragg, if you will.

- John F Kennedy Special Warfare Center established in 1952. It specializes in psychological warfare

- Project Mk Ultra ( mind control) created in 1953

-Viet Nam War starts in 1955

-U.S. combat units were deployed beginning in 1965 to Viet Nam

- Church Of Satan created in 1966

- 1968- Rosemary's Baby released nationwide, was a blockbuster

- Operation Often created in 1969 which was an exploration of Black Magic and the supernatural by the military

- Charles Manson murders march of 1969- nationalized by media throughout the 70's

- From Laura's post above- in the early 70s certain technologies were being developed that could “broadcast” signals over the entire nation.

- Feb , 1970, green beret doctor Jeffrey Macdonald's wife and two children are murdered in Fort Bragg North Carolina. The crime scene looks as though Satanists are responsible. MacDonald is ultimately convicted and is still in prison, and stills says he is innocent. The case is sensationalized, there is a media storm, movies were made

- John F Kennedy Special Warfare Center moved to Fort Bragg, NC in 1971 ( the largest amount of child deaths and abuse by returning soldiers that I have been able to reference, including my own family tragedy, happended in Fort Bragg, in 71-73 )

- 1973- The Exorcist is released nationwide, was a blockbuster we know that thats hooey based on Laura's thread here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7571.0 but it was hyped as based on a true story why?

- 1975- Michael Aquino breaks from the Church of Satan and establishes the Temple of Set. He is successful in getting the armed services to recognize Satanism as a listed religion. He is skilled in psychological warfare, and connected to The John F Kennedy Special Warfare Center in Fort Bragg North Carolina

- From Laura's post above: mid to late 1970s that the allegations of the existence of a “well-organized intergenerational satanic cult whose members sexually molest, torture and murder children across the United States”, began to emerge in America ( Temple of Set?)

- 1978- Jim Jones massacre is nationalzed by media

- 1983- McMartin daycare accusations begin

- 1987- charges brought against Michael Aquino of The Temple of Set for paedophilia and SRA in Presidio case. Charges are later dismissed. He is also connected to Dynacorp, which has been connected numerous times to accusations of human trafficking

-"Greenbaum Speech," delivered at the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality, Thursday June 25, 1992, at the Radisson Plaza Hotel, Mark Center, Alexandria, Virginia

- 1992-1993- first nationwide mass rumblings of accusations against the church for child molestation


Now, in looking at the above from a ponerization process, what is happening? How are these events affecting the public psyche? How are these events affecting the pathological deviants? What made Viet Nam so different that so many of these soldiers came home to murder and abuse women and children? Was it the new creation of the psychological warfare center, mk ultra, project often? Could these soldiers be the trojan horse that took us to the next level of ponerogenesis?The soldiers are returning admist quite a bit of "satanic" noise in the background, also. The soldiers were not welcomed back for the most part. How did that, along with this fresh satanic content in media undercurrent affect them? How does psychological warfare come into play? What extent of damage did it do to secular society in terms of wounding and abuse and murder at the hands of these soldiers? How did that make the next generation more psychologically wounded?

Obviously these things affected secular society in ways never seen before. Could these things have affected the McMartins, and was their psychological makeup skewed enough as to have run with the idea?

I would also like to know how many of these children who made claims of either SRA or abduction, had parents or close relatives that returned from Viet Nam

More than 3 million Americans served in Vietnam. By war's end, 58,193 soldiers were killed, more than 150,000 were wounded, and at least 21,000 were permanently disabled. Approximately 830,000 Vietnam veterans suffered symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder.


I hope I am being clear on how I see all of this as being connected. If not, let me know and I will try to explain further . I see SRA as a cover for a more covert psy-op taking place here in 3d connected to the military at at the very minimum.
 
EmeraldHope: Would you clarify what you mean by saying that SRA is a smokescreen for psy-ops. Are you saying that SRA isn't happening or that SRA is being used in the media to divert attention away from psy-op activities?
 
Teresa said:
EmeraldHope: Would you clarify what you mean by saying that SRA is a smokescreen for psy-ops. Are you saying that SRA isn't happening or that SRA is being used in the media to divert attention away from psy-op activities?
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I think, as Laura also stated above, that in some extreme more isolated cases there are instances of SRA happening. I have found small instances of groups where that does indeed seem plausible. However, in the overall scheme of things, it is the exception not the rule, and the fact that SRA was made such a big deal of, and touted as the boogie man, nationwide, to provoke fear, combined with the outline I gave you above, I belieive that it is a a cover for a larger psyop, both inacted here in 3d and also with greater cosmic influences. What exactly the nature of the psy op it is covering is, I have no clue. But yes, I think it is a diversion.
 
I agree. While there may very well be instances of SRA, and perhaps even organized predator rings practicing SRA, there have never been sufficient evidence that it was/is as widespread as society has been led to believe.

I put it in the same category of the crack babies meme, that was advanced in international media during the Reagan years as further justification for the war on drugs. It turned out there were hardly any cases of babies born addicted to crack, contrary to the stories we had been fed of babies born already shaking from withdrawal symptoms.

Gonzo
 
I will also add, I could take the timeline back a little further to the earlier part of the century and connect The Tavistock Institute to all of this, just as Laura goes back earlier in here data above. That is just one more notch in belt that leads to social programming and a psyop of some sort. I just started where I did for brevity's sake.
 
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