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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2010, 04:37:32 AM »
Thank you Laura.I will do that.I have a little already looked into the diet,as someone else mentioned that.I am curious why you say to exclude the beatha portion?Thank you so much for your time.Dave.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2010, 04:53:15 AM »
I was also wondering what exactly i should look for in health and diet?Just detoxing?
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« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2010, 04:55:43 AM »
Sorry,one more.Would the heavy metal detox be a good start?Or should i look more to grug detox in general?
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2010, 07:43:30 AM »
I was also wondering what exactly i should look for in health and diet?Just detoxing?

It is recommended that you make changes to your diet first, before starting to detox. This is to "clear the way" as it were for your body to be able to handle flushing out toxins. Otherwise you run the risk of overloading your body with toxins because it starts to release it from your tissues and cells faster than your body can keep up.

A good place to start is the UltraMind Diet. Many of the forum members follow that diet, with some variations. You can check out the post below and take the quiz that there is. There is a website you can use to take the quiz, and it will give you recommendations for supplements. You can also post your results and ask Psyche if she can make any recommendations.

UltraMind Solution Quizzes

The basics are stop eating bad stuff, start eating good stuff, and take supplements to fill in the spaces where your food doesn't provide enough of certain vitamins and nutrients. When it comes to detoxing, you need to first stop putting toxins in your body, follow a healthy diet consistently for several months or longer, and then there are specific things you can do to purge the toxins out of your body.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2010, 07:55:53 AM »
Thank you Laura.I will do that.I have a little already looked into the diet,as someone else mentioned that.I am curious why you say to exclude the beatha portion?Thank you so much for your time.Dave.

The Beatha portion for some people can be very intense. It is a very good tool for removing emotional trauma from your soul. It follows the same basic principle as fixing your diet first before you start to detox. Need to make sure that the emotional center is in a position to handle dealing with a lot of trauma. The other portions of the program, especially the Pipe Breathing and the 3-Stage Breathing can act to strengthen you emotionally, so you have better "footing" to deal with what Beatha will likely bring up. The Beatha portion of the program is at the polar opposite side of using, IMHO, and I personally wouldn't recommend integrating such polar opposites into the same body. But that's just my two cents, if you want to know more about EE or Beatha specifically I would recommend checking out the EE threads on this forum or the EE specific board at EEbreathe.com. There is also an extensive EE FAQ.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2010, 08:01:29 AM »
My suggestion would be to start easy with just dietary detoxing - eliminating gluten and casein from your diet, bad oils and trans fats.  That's a tall enough order on its own.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2010, 08:51:02 AM »
I am pretty worried about fluoride,as it is in our water here,and has been pretty much all my life.I dont think i would be able to afford bottled water.Are there any type of filters that a person can get?i will check myself as well,but if anyone knows offhand,i would appreciate it.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2010, 11:57:09 AM »
I am pretty worried about fluoride,as it is in our water here,and has been pretty much all my life.I dont think i would be able to afford bottled water.Are there any type of filters that a person can get?i will check myself as well,but if anyone knows offhand,i would appreciate it.
Perhaps this thread may answer some of your questions. :)
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2010, 02:11:20 PM »
I am pretty worried about fluoride,as it is in our water here,and has been pretty much all my life.I dont think i would be able to afford bottled water.Are there any type of filters that a person can get?i will check myself as well,but if anyone knows offhand,i would appreciate it.
Perhaps this thread may answer some of your questions. :)

And this thread about fluoride.

And that post for a water fluoride filter .
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2010, 08:46:47 PM »
Thank you truth seeker and Gandalph.i especially like yer signature about not saying yes,as i am smart enough to know that by now,and just last night was practicing it.Perhaps i subconsciously read it before on yer posts?lol.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2010, 01:48:56 PM »
Even though mercury detox is very important, it's best to leave it for later, when you are feeling already good and healthy. It can get really tough once you start to mobilize heavy metals throughout your body in order to eliminate them. As a general rule, it is best to eat healthy for a while, eliminate food sensitivities, healing your gut and taking some nutritional supplementation (vitamins C, B, magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, multivitamins/minerals). That alone will make you stronger and may diminish significantly your crave for drugs. It would definitely diminish the crave for unhealthy foods because we often crave what is bad for us, but once that is cleared from the body our will strengthens and it becomes easier and actually desirable to stay away from the bad foods.

The stimulation of the vagus nerve through the pipe breathing part of Éiriu Eolas helps particularly to decrease drug and food cravings by helping to balance your brain chemistry and your brain as a whole.

There are nutritional rehab programs to recover from drug addictions, basically balancing the brain chemistry with proper detoxification and nutritional supplements in order to make it easier. Often, drugs are relievers of real biochemical mood problems. Supplements consist basically of certain amino acids that are lacking and that makes you crave certain drugs. The Mood Cure by Julia Ross has very good protocols and I really think you should read it so you can understand yourself and your brain chemistry better.  She has also a good record in helping people to recover from their drug addictions with natural rehabilitation programs consisting of certain amino acids.  Her dietary suggestions are good, but it falls short in other points. Eliminating all dairy products and cereals because of the issue of casein, gluten and lectins is really a priority. Also processed foods, hydrogenated vegetable oils, evil additives like aspartame and MSG. You can use lard to cook. You can get some pretty good recipes in the health section of the forum, they are very delicious. All gluten recipes and foods can be replaced with buckwheat, quinoa or amaranth. You can also have wild rice.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2010, 07:09:10 PM »
I have been reading this discussion with intense interest.  Davey72, I appreciate the courage you displayed in asking the initial question.  I, too, have struggled in this area for years.  Now read that sentence again, but this time imagine every word soaked in the horrifying screams of torture.  I am on the edge of my seat, waiting to read what the C's have to offer on this subject.

The breathing program has helped.  In fact it's the ONLY thing that ever has.  I was struck by Laura's comment about leaving out the round breathing.  I have been doing this from the beginning.  Sometimes I try to do it, but I never get very far, and usually fast-foreward to the Prayer of the Soul.  Perhaps I had an instinct about not doing the round breathing, I don't know.  However, now that I have done more reading about it, I think I will begin to try it.  I suspect I have some real emotional healing to attend to.

Also, and I don't know really why I mention this, but I just feel such an urge to - my real name is Maya.  My sister's name (also an aquarian) is Ananda.  I have always sensed there is a mystery to solve here, or something I am supposed to 'get' from this, but I don't know what. 

Once again, thanks Davey72 for your initial post and the conversation that has followed.  Much, much gratitude to you all.
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Re: opiate withdrawal
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2010, 03:05:27 AM »
Thank you Maya. Beleive me, i don't have to imagine the angst, as i have been living through the same thing. It was one of the things that kept me away from this forum, as i didnt think i was even worthy until i actually was clean. I hope to see yer posts again,as it is nice to know that i am not alone.
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« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2010, 05:56:36 PM »
Yes, that's also why I was a "lurker" for so long on this forum.  I won't let it keep me down, though.  For some reason, throughout my whole life, I have been carried along by something inside of me that won't let me quit, no matter how thin my self-esteem is spread.  Despite the struggle, I have a sense of having been protected in a profound way -spiritually protected, that is.  I suspect that on some level this "thorn in my side" is an attempt to separate me from others (by who?  by me?  outside of me? both?) and keep me in isolation.  And things can get kind of fuzzy when I start to try to separate "what has been done to me" from "what I do to myself".  My search for understanding has gone a long way to lift me to a vantage point where I can kind of observe myself from above, if that makes sense.  So things are better than they once were.  Consistent application of knowledge is where I get tripped up!  Can I get an "Amen!"?

P.S.) Journaling - along with EE, study, and prayer, helps trememdously.  I'm about ready to add the "diet" component now.
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« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2010, 06:07:43 PM »
Thank you Maya. Beleive me, i don't have to imagine the angst, as i have been living through the same thing. It was one of the things that kept me away from this forum, as i didnt think i was even worthy until i actually was clean. I hope to see yer posts again,as it is nice to know that i am not alone.
Good example of how helping yourself can help others. :)
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