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The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Tigersoap:
I saw it and as a movie I thought it was Ok.
I am not sure this was a great movie about psychopathy because there wasn't much explanation about it at all.
It's a good whodunnit though but not ground-breaking.
I've read the book but did not finish it because it wasn't really interesting in the end.
I wasn't too thrilled by Lisbeth Salander Either, I thought the geek goth autistic computer genius was not really credible.
Her reactions are quite psychopathic in themselves imho.
I'd like to watch the rest of the serie though, to see if it fleshes out the story though.
Spoiler
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The rape scene was distressing, more so in the movie, to me it seemed artificial in order to justify her revenge, which I also thought was "yeah do it he deserved it"...but still she does rape him as well and tatoo him.
I did not really like that mix of strong women, victim, outcast...it seemed really artificial to me.
It's a weird mix of story, side story and serial-killer. Quite difficult to put into a movie and succeed.
It was made as well in longer episodes for the TV.
clerck de bonk:
--- Quote from: Tigersoap on September 10, 2010, 11:05:14 AM ---I saw it and as a movie I thought it was Ok.
I am not sure this was a great movie about psychopathy because there wasn't much explanation about it at all.
It's a good whodunnit though but not ground-breaking.
I've read the book but did not finish it because it wasn't really interesting in the end.
I wasn't too thrilled by Lisbeth Salander Either, I thought the geek goth autistic computer genius was not really credible.
Her reactions are quite psychopathic in themselves imho.
I'd like to watch the rest of the serie though, to see if it fleshes out the story though.
Spoiler
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The rape scene was distressing, more so in the movie, to me it seemed artificial in order to justify her revenge, which I also thought was "yeah do it he deserved it"...but still she does rape him as well and tatoo him.
I did not really like that mix of strong women, victim, outcast...it seemed really artificial to me.
It's a weird mix of story, side story and serial-killer. Quite difficult to put into a movie and succeed.
It was made as well in longer episodes for the TV.
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I agree, totally.
It(the first movie) really got my "sweet revenge"-programs going. Didn't know they made it for TV also.
As a side note, the books are really popular here in Finland, especially among women...
Keit:
--- Quote from: clerck de bonk on September 11, 2010, 01:29:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tigersoap on September 10, 2010, 11:05:14 AM ---I saw it and as a movie I thought it was Ok.
I am not sure this was a great movie about psychopathy because there wasn't much explanation about it at all.
It's a good whodunnit though but not ground-breaking.
I've read the book but did not finish it because it wasn't really interesting in the end.
I wasn't too thrilled by Lisbeth Salander Either, I thought the geek goth autistic computer genius was not really credible.
Her reactions are quite psychopathic in themselves imho.
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I agree, totally.
It(the first movie) really got my "sweet revenge"-programs going. Didn't know they made it for TV also.
As a side note, the books are really popular here in Finland, especially among women...
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Well, I agree with the description that Lisbeth actions were psychopathic themselves and that the movie was activating sweet revenge programs. And no, it doesn't explain psychopathy. But in my opinion, it was still good, though disturbing, presentation of psychopathic things done to women, including how this abuse shapes the abused women. I didn't see the second movie, and don't know if they expend a bit more on Lisbeth charachter (though heard that this is the emphasis of the second book) and events that led to her behavior. She is clearly very wounded and pathological, but my impression of the first movie was that her pathology is a product of the abuse, so found it interesting in this respect.
Hildegarda:
--- Quote ---Well, I agree with the description that Lisbeth actions were psychopathic themselves and that the movie was activating sweet revenge programs. And no, it doesn't explain psychopathy. But in my opinion, it was still good, though disturbing, presentation of psychopathic things done to women, including how this abuse shapes the abused women. [..] She is clearly very wounded and pathological, but my impression of the first movie was that her pathology is a product of the abuse, so found it interesting in this respect.
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I am reading the third book in the series now. From them, Lisbeth appears to be more of an Asperger type who was bullied in school and abused in the family. So therefore, some of her personality aspects are due to genetics while are totally reactive. The diagnosis had been spelled out a few times in the text, although the whole combination of it, geek/hacker/promiscuous/boxer/goth chick, is just not very believable IMO.
I am curious to see what the movie is like. I have to say that the second book is not as good as the first IMO, and the third one is a drag. The writing itself on all three of them leaves a lot to be desired.
go2:
Has anyone noticed the parallels of Lisbeth Salinger's bio and the bio of Julian Assange? Lisbeth and Julian were traumatized by pathological adults in childhood. They are portrayed as lone wolf computer hackers cum journalists fighting the corrupt men within the system. They escape and punish their pursuers in a superhuman effort to defeat the inhuman force of evil men. Notice it is evil men and not the evil matrix..........entirely staffed by caricatures of human beings we call psychopaths. It is the scapegoating maneuver of guilty power protecting itself by sacrificing a few evil psychopaths.
It is a few bad apples who are responsible for Julian and Lisbeth's suffering. For Julian it is the cold blooded American soldiers and for Lisabeth it is her father, the KGB psychopath. I wonder if they have the same script writer for this theater of PSYWAR against the mind of humanity. Their roles are to deflect attention from the inhuman system created by psychopaths for psychopaths. It is a limited hangout script. The public is assured the horror on this planet is the result of a few psychopaths within the benevolent system which neither Julian nor Lizbeth seem to notice is designed to vector the sweat and blood of generations of men and women into maintaining a world wide gulug.
Yes, even entertainment is a mind control operation. I don't understand how much is mechanical or how much is directed by conscious entities, but as Anart says, when the tree leaves are moving, you know the wind is blowing. The vengeance and protective programs are activated by these stories. We clap for the heroes, not noticing the sinister puppet master behind the curtain directing our attention from the horror of the gulug we call our home.
I saw The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and The Girl Who Played With Fire and only the Cassiopaea network activated the associations I needed to understand my deep unease watching these movies. I felt the predator on the move, and only the network focused my attention on the nature of this predator moving into my mind by deception. Thank you all!
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