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Anger at God
Hildegarda:
--- Quote from: Laura on January 06, 2011, 12:12:21 PM ---At God We Rage: Anger at the Almighty Found to Be Common
If you've ever responded to tragedy by raging at God, you're not alone. A new study finds that anger at God is a common emotion among Americans.
The anger often stems from the belief that God is responsible for bad experiences, according to the research, which is published in the January issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. But anger isn't an indication that someone is turning his or her back on God, said study researcher and Case Western Reserve University psychologist Julie Exline.
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here is another essay on the same topic:
_http://www.thenervousbreakdown.com/emrapp/2011/11/where-is-god-in-tay-sachs-the-shadow-world-and-a-new-or-new-ish-world-order/
--- Quote ---Hmmm…So God cannot be blamed for disaster and also be transcendent. We can’t be pissed off at God, as I have been, and then claim that God doesn’t exist. (Uh-oh.) God’s sheer unknowability (which, again, is what makes God God), means that we cannot expect God to move in ways we humans have determined, according to our own categories, as moral or good. In other words, God doesn’t make moral or immoral choices, because God isn’t in the business of making any choices at all, as God is beyond categories that we could imagine. (Remember, it was a bunch of dudes in Nicea, not God, who in the year 325 decided on the Triune God, the categories of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.) I like this reasoning, because it wipes away the “I prayed and God saved me” logic that people so often believe in after they’ve experienced a narrow escape from some tragedy or disease. Sorry, folks, but God isn’t up there, waiting to hear your pleas for help in a storm. God isn’t up anywhere; God is God. The rest of what happens to you is chance, but that doesn’t mean the world is without mystery – or, and most importantly from Hart’s perspective – without moments of grace. It’s complicated, I fear, and as much as my head understands it, my heart is not there yet.
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Buddy:
I am wondering if this "anger at God" might just be a generalized anger at all the contradictions and confusions we pick up while just living. How many good sounding ideas go uninspected simply because they make us feel good at the time on the one hand, and possibly make us feel "bad" for what seems like daring to "question God" on the other hand.
As a possible example, the quote that follows sounds good at first glance (as usual) until it is placed in context with a much wider picture - a process I'm assuming is included in "Allah's" "request to study the universe to see how it works."
I'm curious as to what would be the point of "Allah" requesting someone to study and understand the universe (our reality) if all someone needs to understand "good or bad" is a simple, general belief:
--- Quote from: zyad on November 16, 2011, 09:32:39 AM ---I believe that what ever happen to us, either good or bad is from Allah(God).
However, If it was bad then it is because of our wrong doing and it comes to remind us to correct our behaviour and revert back to the straight and narrow path.
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If "Allah/God" requests something of someone and provides a mind capable of fulfilling the request, surely "He" intends someone to use it?
Suppose a bad-intentioned someone knows that this is your (zyad's) belief and wants to exploit it to build their self-importance, assume a power position, assume control over you or establish and increase their ability to manipulate you or to make you suffer in other ways.
Exactly how do you handle yourself? Having a belief such as what has been stated, can you be bothered to investigate anything at all?
As an aside, I really like this:
--- Quote from: Hildegarda on November 17, 2011, 06:06:29 AM ---
--- Quote ---Hmmm…So God cannot be blamed for disaster and also be transcendent. We can’t be pissed off at God, as I have been, and then claim that God doesn’t exist. (Uh-oh.) God’s sheer unknowability (which, again, is what makes God God), means that we cannot expect God to move in ways we humans have determined, according to our own categories, as moral or good. In other words, God doesn’t make moral or immoral choices, because God isn’t in the business of making any choices at all, as God is beyond categories that we could imagine. (Remember, it was a bunch of dudes in Nicea, not God, who in the year 325 decided on the Triune God, the categories of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.) I like this reasoning, because it wipes away the “I prayed and God saved me” logic that people so often believe in after they’ve experienced a narrow escape from some tragedy or disease. Sorry, folks, but God isn’t up there, waiting to hear your pleas for help in a storm. God isn’t up anywhere; God is God. The rest of what happens to you is chance, but that doesn’t mean the world is without mystery – or, and most importantly from Hart’s perspective – without moments of grace. It’s complicated, I fear, and as much as my head understands it, my heart is not there yet.
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davidfxl:
Maybe those who get angry at DOG, sorry I mean god, are suspicious of being in a place where they are manipulated but have not done the work to understand this reality. So what else is there to do but be frustrated and angry at a faceless being. At least they aren't taking it out on another unsuspecting soul.
hjackson:
I'm rather angry at Harry Potter. But not really. Anger is so bothersome.
anart:
--- Quote from: hjackson on November 18, 2011, 03:49:00 AM ---I'm rather angry at Harry Potter. But not really. Anger is so bothersome.
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Hi hjackson. It would be great if you would work on your tendency to make flippant remarks that do not contribute to the discussion. From your posts on the forum and the sott site, it appears to be your normal mode of functioning, so if you would work against this impulse, it would be appreciated because we try to keep the noise level down on the forum.
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