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Pemmican - Healthy Snack and Longlife Food
wetroof:
--- Quote ---My jerky is delicious and all the family snack on it but as we need to had more fat to the diet pemmican was the way to go.
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Or you could just dip the jerky in rendered fat :). thats my idea anyways.
This is something I came across concerning Pemmican FWIW. This guy makes--I think--about 200 pounds of it a year to send out as samples (not sure why he does this or exactly what it means) but he does not eat it himself.
Pemmican is probably good to make and store for the future, but while we can to eat some of the organ meats. that is my impression.
--- Quote ---With your take on pemmican perhaps not being suited long term, I'd like to know why –
Hmmmmm, really no magic here. I consider pemmican an emergency food, a compact food for travel, and a food that can be stored for use during lean times like winter. This is how it was used by the Cree Indians who invented the stuff. I don’t think it was ever meant as a sole source of nutrition, but then that is just my opinion.
Further, I like to include some organ meats in my diet. Whether this is strictly necessary I have no idea, but it works well for me. Others that have tried a ZC diet without organ meats seem to fail. Since I don’t know all the circumstances for individual cases the best I can do is speculate that organ meats provide some necessary elements to the diet that is missing if only muscle meats are eaten. That said, organ meats don’t work well in pemmican. They cause the pemmican to spoil rapidly which defeats the primary purpose of pemmican and that is long term storage.
There are some that have tried a pemmican-only diet long term and they claim success (Delfeugo on ZIOH comes to mind), but, then again, I don’t know the specific circumstances. One person that I do know about is Danny Roddy. He ate a pemmican-only diet for two years. At first things seemed to improve, but over the long term he got strange rashes on his legs and I believe some cravings. I’ve never gotten any symptoms of any kind eating mostly raw meat with organ meats included through the pet food in my mix. Is it the small amount of organ meats I eat that make everything work? I have no idea, but I’ll continue eating them. Why mess with success?
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Don Diego:
Hi pemmican lovers
Last week at my closest organic farm I've ordered a 8kgs meat loaf in order to make it dry at the slaughterhouse in their deshydratation room without extra price as suggested by the farmer.The process will last 3 months so I'll get the meat next fall.It's a lot of money because the piece of meat has to be absolutely lean therefore expensive,to be dried they said,but I'll insist to get a big piece of dried brisket(6€/kg)next time.
How,you guys,would proceed to reintroduce enough fat (duckfat we much prefer) and salt/spices?Should we slice and dive it into hot fat or other ways?Has it to be dried again at air?
Thanks in advance for your precious devices! :)
3D Student:
--- Quote from: Don Diego on May 18, 2011, 02:42:58 PM ---How,you guys,would proceed to reintroduce enough fat (duckfat we much prefer) and salt/spices?Should we slice and dive it into hot fat or other ways?Has it to be dried again at air?
Thanks in advance for your precious devices! :)
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I haven't made it myself yet, but from what I've read, you just put the shredded beef jerky into an pot with an equal weight of fat (so if 2 kg of meat, also 2 kg of fat). Then you mix it up and get a paste. I think this is when you could add your salt and spices. Then you just put it in some container and when it cools it will be hard.
Laurentien:
--- Quote from: Don Diego on May 18, 2011, 02:42:58 PM ---Hi pemmican lovers
How,you guys,would proceed to reintroduce enough fat (duckfat we much prefer) and salt/spices?Should we slice and dive it into hot fat or other ways?Has it to be dried again at air?
Thanks in advance for your precious devices! :)
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These link brought by Odyssey give sound explanation how to prepare the pemmican Don Diego. I followed these instruction and the result as I said is good. I don't know about using duck fat for pemmican but I read that you can use other fat like bear or other but that it turn rancid faster. As well, duck fat may melt at a lower temperature and if not as hard if I may say. I wouldn't suggest it for maximum shelf life but if it is to add fat in your diet by having some in your refrigerator, why not.
--- Quote ---Citation de: Odyssey le Janvier 15, 2011, 01:38:19
I found some online instructions for a cheap jerky maker.
_http://www.traditionaltx.us/images/JerkyDrierInstructions.pdf
Also very detailed instructions on making pemmican once you dry your meat.
_http://www.traditionaltx.us/images/PEMMICAN.pdf
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Posté par: wetroof
--- Quote ---Or you could just dip the jerky in rendered fat Smiley. thats my idea anyways.
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You know it crossed my mind to too to dip the pemmican in fat and I may try it.
A real pemmican as meat and fat only with spice for top life shelve but, I'm trying to add some fat to our diet and adding some dry berry and other ingredient only to make it more palatable. I give some to my daughter for school snack same for jerky to replace carbs and she really like it. Wasn't sure what her reaction would be but she ask for pemmican as snack every morning. She only get weird look from her class mate when they ask what she eat. Compare to jerky, it take much less to fill you up, a few gram make you feel like your stomach is refill quickly. Yesterday, I went for a walk in the mountain and brought a small piece of pemmican about 40 gr. instead of the usual 85 gr. buckwheat muffin and the difference is that I felt filled whit the pemmican. I even gave a small piece to my 2D friend. It is really like that , carbs don't fill you and I realize that what they say is true i,e, no message is send to the brain that you are full.
wetroof:
I bet Pemmican does taste good. But if I did not want to make it, I think I could take the jerky (which is easier to make right? just dried / dehydrated muscle meat) And eat it with a side of melted beef fat or other rendered or "pressed" fat. It beats drinking fat plain.
I should make some of this though. it would be great if I have to live in a college dorm room without a freezer. but that is to be decided. Still knowledge protects, and better to be prepared.
Part of the reason it fills you up is because I think carbohydrates can be nerologically addicting, and I am not sure if this is the same with fat. People can have extreme fat cravings, if they are not getting any, but definitely different than carbohydrates. Also per volume fat is much much more calorie dense than bread/oats/sodas/granola bars.
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