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Is the US West Coast next for a major quake?

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Perceval:
While not exactly a pleasant experience to have to start a thread on this topic, I thought it would be pertinent in an effort to raise awareness and thereby possibly afford an opportunity for some to take precautions. Knowledge protects after all.

Anyway, the main thing I want to share is this


--- Quote ---40ft Section Of California Highway Falls Into Pacific Ocean

A stretch of California's coastal highway is closed to traffic indefinitely after a chunk of the road fell into the Pacific Ocean.

State transportation workers are scrambling to repair Highway 1 in Monterey County near Rocky Creek Bridge.

A 40-foot section of the two-lane highway crumbled just after 5 p.m. Wednesday following several days of rainy weather. All of the southbound lane is gone, and the soil under the northbound lane also is giving way.

The California Highway Patrol says no one was injured in the slide.

It's not immediately clear what caused the slide or how long the highway will be closed.
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There's an image and video at that link, although the reports make absolutely no reference to this being a possible warning sign. So, it's up to us to do so. It's really maddening to see such things almost completely ignored and cast in a  mundane way when the entire pacific plate has awoken with terrible results. In addition, as mentioned by the geologist Jim Berkland at this link, the "supermoon" is coming in few days and can possibly exert an influence (not necessarily understood by science) on the planet as a whole.

Given that it happened in Monterrey county, it also brings to mind this from many moons ago:


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Dec 3 1994

More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto,  Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence. "Time" is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction  of California economy as people begin mass exodus. Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside.
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Just wanted to say that anyone in that area that is reading this, it would be a good idea to take all possible precautions, if you can take an impromptu vacation from the area for a few days or a week then it might be the time to do so.

zlyja:
Thank you so much Perceval for bringing this up. Especially for the note on the highway! Jesus Christ, why is nobody else making a big deal of this?! We have so many potholes on every highway; who knows when those decide to turn into massive sinkholes!

I'm unfortunately close to a fracture point as noted by the C's (Capistrano), and I have no way of getting out of the area legally. With all the Fox News survivalism my parents are preaching, they aren't even thinking of getting the heck out of Dodge!

I'll put this up for those who may have forgotten:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=4758.0


--- Quote ---_http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=170608

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Where to be During an Earthquake

Carol Weigold writes, Remember that USGS advice about hiding under a table or standing in a doorway? Well, Doug Copp's TRIANGLE OF LIFE' has a different opinion.

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information will save lives in an earthquake. I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation and worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985. The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I did not at the time know that the children were told to hide under something. Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the 'triangle of life'.
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the 'triangles' you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.
TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1) Most everyone who simply 'ducks and covers' WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death.. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed. 2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above.
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different 'moment of frequency' (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each and the people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads. Even if the building does not collapse, stay away from the stairs.
The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles.. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact.
Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper. In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be correct. The Turkish Federal Government, University of Istanbul and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did 'duck and cover,' and ten mannequins I used in my 'triangle of life' survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the 'triangle of life.' This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe and Real TV.

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When it hits, I may be in a position to tell you stuff the news isn't telling, who knows. The Christchurch and Japan earthquakes happened about 3 weeks apart, so, especially with the influence of the supermoon, it will happen any day now. Thanks again!

rolyateel:
Thanks Zlyja, the information you posted by Doug Copp was very interesting... i would have been under a door or a table.
Here is the video of his Turkish experiment.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9cYbxarA2o

Teresa:
Thank you for the head's up Percival.  I was living just south of Monterey during the Loma Prieta earthquake and the thing I never realized is how important fresh water is.  After the earthquake we had no power or water for a little over 24 hours, if I remember correctly.  Since then I've invested in an earthquake kit and keep several extra litres of water.  I haven't really had to use it, but since I still live in California it's better to be prepared.  I got my kit at Earthshakes.com they also have some really good tips on their site. 

Hildegarda:
To add:  

The other day I have caught a snippet of Dan Savage's radio show.  His guest was a scientist who runs SyzygyJob.com and predicts earthquakes based on animal behavior and moon phases.  

The guest made it sound as if the Super Moon will open another window of vulnerability, through the 20ths of March, for a major earthquake around SF bay area.  The information doesn't appear on the site, it appears to be distributed normally via newsletter to subscribers.  What he said on the radio was somewhat nebulous, but did point towards this possibility.  

fwiw

upd:  this is it: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/225968-Geologist-Predicts-Major-N-America-Earthquake-Imminent

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