Psalehesost
The Living Force
SeekinTruth said:
Palm oil is actually a good saturated fat, so don't see why it is a red flag. Agree, though, on the ingredients listed apart from the palm- and coconut oil.
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Palm oil is actually a good saturated fat, so don't see why it is a red flag. Agree, though, on the ingredients listed apart from the palm- and coconut oil.
Sentenza
Jedi
I began the "low carb diet" yesterday.
A small question.
I bought some grease of duck and currently, I use it by passing it in microwave and by topping it up on the food which I eat, and notably the meat. I eat it so 5 or 6 coffee spoons by meal :).
My wife is thrown into a panic to see me eating so and notably when I finish the bowl in the teaspoon!
My question, it is that in "Life without bread", the authors say that it is necessary to replace carbohydrates with the fat. But what quantity? It isn't however possible to eat it as much as of fruits!?
Do you think that 5 or 6 spoons, it is too much? What do you make?
I am sorry if question was already tackled in this topic, but I can't read 150 pages in English as it...
PS: You're agree to say that the fat isn't dangerous for arteries? (my wife repeats me that it is case).
I need a little of assistant...
A small question.
I bought some grease of duck and currently, I use it by passing it in microwave and by topping it up on the food which I eat, and notably the meat. I eat it so 5 or 6 coffee spoons by meal :).
My wife is thrown into a panic to see me eating so and notably when I finish the bowl in the teaspoon!
My question, it is that in "Life without bread", the authors say that it is necessary to replace carbohydrates with the fat. But what quantity? It isn't however possible to eat it as much as of fruits!?
Do you think that 5 or 6 spoons, it is too much? What do you make?
I am sorry if question was already tackled in this topic, but I can't read 150 pages in English as it...
PS: You're agree to say that the fat isn't dangerous for arteries? (my wife repeats me that it is case).
I need a little of assistant...
Psalehesost said:
But it is probably hydrogenated which makes it way more evil.
Butter is actually VERY good for you for many reasons in addition to it's fatness.
1. Butter is rich in the most easily absorbable form of Vitamin A necessary for thyroid and adrenal health.
2. Contains lauric acid, important in treating fungal infections and candida.
3. Contains lecithin, essential for cholesterol metabolism.
4. Contains anti-oxidants that protect against free radical damage.
5. Has anti-oxidants that protect against weakening arteries.
6. Is a great source of Vitamins E and K.
7. Is a very rich source of the vital mineral selenium.
8. Saturated fats in butter have strong anti-tumor and anti-cancer properties.
9. Butter contains conjugated linoleic acid, which is a potent anti-cancer agent, muscle builder, and immunity booster
10. Vitamin D found in butter is essential to absorption of calcium.
11. Protects against tooth decay.
12. Is your only source of an anti-stiffness factor, which protects against calcification of the joints.
13. Anti-stiffness factor in butter also prevents hardening of the arteries, cataracts, and calcification of the pineal gland.
14. Is a source of Activator X, which helps your body absorb minerals.
15. Is a source of iodine in highly absorbable form.
16. May promote fertility in women.9
17. Is a source of quick energy, and is not stored in our bodies adipose tissue.
18. Cholesterol found in butterfat is essential to children's brain and nervous system development.
19. Contains Arachidonic Acid (AA) which plays a role in brain function and is a vital component of cell membranes.
20. Protects against gastrointestinal infections in the very young or the elderly.
See also:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025564_butter_health_healthy.html
http://www.whale.to/a/butter.html
http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2011/04/good-fats-bad-fats-and-why-i-eat-plenty-of-butter.html
Another reason to eat butter is because it is obviously targeted by the PTB that own the media as we see from this disinfo article: _http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1163680/The-great-butter-mystery-Its-natural-good-you.html
I couldn't have ANY butter for a couple of years because my leaky gut issues made me WAY sensitive to any whiff of casein. But, I could tolerate ghee. It wasn't as good as butter, but it was okay.
I was SOOO happy when my gut finally began to heal and I could have regular butter. For some of you, that may be why you cannot tolerate it: you gut hasn't healed and this can take up to two years. But you can still get most of the nutritional value from the ghee.
Another REALLY important reason to have real butter is because of the butyrate (the thing that gives butter it's characteristic smell/taste). Butyrates are important as food for cells lining the mammalian colon (colonocytes). Without butyrates for energy, colon cells undergo autophagy (self digestion) and die.
There's a paper about this which won't be available for a few months (dunno why):
Psalehesost
The Living Force
Laura said:
Good point, and may also be the case with the coconut oil. You never know with the fats contained in any processed, unnatural foods - which are generally a bad idea in any case.
Laura said:
I guess I'll see, in time, if sensitivity changes. I retested just before what I recently wrote about butter - and the effects were part of the reason for the tone of the post - and will do so again at a later point in the future.
For now, even ghee has for me a subtle negative effect, as previously noted, so will use lard in preference to it and use ghee moderately when lard is unavailable. Another issue is that for some reason, if a large amount of ghee is had, much of the fat is visibly not absorbed, something which hasn't been noticed with other fats; this could perhaps be fixed with the supplements mentioned in the thread.
Another issue is with constipation - updating on what I recently wrote about this issue, it seems to be partly a problem of tension, mental and physical; when the tension decreased (thanks to efforts and realizations linked to the recent psychology threads), the issue of constipation did so as well. But having a lot of ghee seems, at present, to bring it back - a day without it solving the problem.
Sentenza said:My question, it is that in "Life without bread", the authors say that it is necessary to replace carbohydrates with the fat. But what quantity? It isn't however possible to eat it as much as of fruits!?
Do you think that 5 or 6 spoons, it is too much? What do you make?
You can eat as much of the fat as you like. The only problem could be if there are issues digesting it, but if your gut handles all the fat (and if not, there are supplements for digestion that could help it), you can simply eat it until you are fully satisfied.
Sentenza said:
This is addressed in many sources, including in the book Life Without Bread which you have; these sources explain the problems with the idea that fat would be dangerous.
Also, I would recommend that, even if hard, you take the time to read as much as you can of this thread - I think you'll find it well worth it!
Laura said:
I am quite young and even though I'm on the diet quite some time now I can't tolarate butter and certain types of nuts.
I think in my case a reason for that could be that my gut was also damaged do to the drugs I took when I was junger.
I took cocain and ate ground coca leaves and also made tee out of coca leaves.
Edit: spelling
Thanks for that summary on butter, Laura. It's always good to have a refresher on the benefits. :) And it confirms my suspicions and answers the questions I brought up in this thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26327.msg316098.html#msg316098
And yeah, Sentenza, the fat scare is a whole bunch of bunk. It's actually glycation that causes all the problems, so the less carbs you eat the less problems, and on this diet you replace the carbs with healthy fats.
And yeah, Sentenza, the fat scare is a whole bunch of bunk. It's actually glycation that causes all the problems, so the less carbs you eat the less problems, and on this diet you replace the carbs with healthy fats.
Sentenza
Jedi
Psalehesost said:
Thank you for this answer. It is what I thought, but there are instants still when I feel weaker and where I can doubt. :/
Supplements, I take (HCL, digestive enzymes, Coq10) and I didn't note worry of digestion for the moment.
In this respect, I ordered these supplements on iherb and I took marks " Doctor' s best " and "Now". I don't know if they are good or not. What marks do you use?
I am A blood type and for 2 days I ate a lot of beef. Not noted of worry of digestion, even if obviously it is very disadvised for this group...
Not easy to know the truth for ourselves...
Psalehesost said:
Yes, I well intend to make it. But 156 pages in English, this frightens for a french!
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Hi Sentenza, as has been repeated many times on the forum, it is VERY important that you fully understand the diet changes that you are implementing - before you implement them. You need to know why you're doing what you're doing and how to do it in the best way for your particular body. Please fully read this thread AND the recommended books. Your health is too important to just jump into a diet blindly - it is vitally important that you have and understand the information on the science behind the changes you are making. I can't stress this enough, especially if your wife is concerned.
Psalehesost
The Living Force
Sentenza said:
Unfortunately I can't give advice from experience here, because I have not yet used digestive supplements. Because apart from not absorbing ghee very well, digestion, including when eating a lot of fat, has worked well for me without them. This can vary a lot from person to person.
Sentenza said:
From the many experiences of people who have switched to this paleo diet, it seems that the idea of blood type diets has been more or less disproved - many are eating differently than is suggested for their blood type, and are healthier than ever. If what you eat works well for your body, then that is what matters, I think.
And that's a way to verify the truth for ourselves - by experience. Though, as anart mentions, it is important first of all to have all the relevant information - otherwise we don't know the proper direction in which to go, and the issues which we may encounter.
mada85
The Cosmic Force
Psalehesost said:
I am blood type A, and I used to follow d'Adamo's recommendations and was eating a basically vegetarian, low fat diet. I now keep my carbs at or below 20g daily, I eat as much fat as I like (and I like a lot) and pork. That's it, and I feel so much better. Changing to the low carb/high fat diet cleared up a persistent case of post-viral fatigue which I think was really a case of carbohydrate intolerance. If I had followed d'Adamo's recommendations, I would have spent most of my life visiting medical specialists looking for a cure. In fact the cure was the diet . . . and I've certainly disproved d'Adamo's blood type hypothesis!
Added later: I forgot to mention that I'm also eating eggs.
Hi Laura,
The article you reference is available through a subscription. I accessed it and sent it to sott@sott.net in case you wanted to look at it. I would have PM'ed it to you, but I couldn't find an "attach" button, and it has loads of pictures in it.
Thanks!
The article you reference is available through a subscription. I accessed it and sent it to sott@sott.net in case you wanted to look at it. I would have PM'ed it to you, but I couldn't find an "attach" button, and it has loads of pictures in it.
Thanks!
Laura said:
Thanks for mentioning Laura. I do really love butter it is somehow the fat I best tolerate, with other things my stomach makes trouble especially when the fat is fluid. Since some months I'm also buying butter in better quality (Kerrygold), it is not organic but the brand claims that the cows are grass-fed, which was important for me at this point when looking for butter.
Gonzo
The Living Force
Hi Alice,
FYI,
Gonzo
There could be a difference in the term "organic", depending on your country's organic standard. Organic does not necessarily means grass fed. One of the more common terms being used now is "organic pastured fed" to differentiate between livestock fed organic grains versus pasture fed livestock. You might want to verify the animal was grazing. As well, depending on the climate and farming practices, many pastured livestock are fed grains as a supplement to hay in the winter, when foraging and grazing opportunities are limited, and some farmers finish the animal off on grains prior to slaughter.Alice said:
FYI,
Gonzo
Muxel
Dagobah Resident
Whoah wait....does that mean I can start spooning butter into my mouth again? What about casein?? And the cows who're constantly being injected with hormones/impregnated to keep them lactating?Laura said:
That butter is targeted by the PTB was apparent to me long before I discovered the PTB even existed. True butter is virtually "phased out" by hydrogenated crap....and no one says a word about it, somehow silently accepting the disappearance of butter from the Matrix. Also, real butter is ridiculously expensive. One of the reasons for spooning butter into my mouth was because I was tight on cash after having bought real butter!
Muxel said:
Yes in butter are traces of casein, but imo it goes in the direction what Laura said, that it is important to heal your gut first and also testing butter. So that you can tolerate it or doesn't effect the rest of your body through leaky gut. And the other thing it would be important to buy organic (grass-fed cow) butter.
