"Life Without Bread"

Thanks to "Life Without Bread" I started to take care of me. It is a fantastic book, simple, clear and for me so useful, me that was afraid of reading about nutrition, health, body, etc. This book is perfect, under my humble point of vue, for beginners. I don't understand why this book is not translated in Spanish...

The Art an Science of Low Carbohydrate Living at the beginning explains the history of science throughout the anti-saturate craze and does a good job of demonstrating how the modern diet paradigm is a case of faulty premise leading to faulty conclusion. I haven't read the rest of the book yet though.

monotonic said:

The Art an Science of Low Carbohydrate Living at the beginning explains the history of science throughout the anti-saturate craze and does a good job of demonstrating how the modern diet paradigm is a case of faulty premise leading to faulty conclusion. I haven't read the rest of the book yet though.

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I don't think the word "simple" applies to that book.

I finished the book Life Without Bread today, my spouse wants to read it now, and I bought my father a copy that should arrive in a couple days.

We're going in the right direction. What we thought we knew was false, and I realize how little I know. It feels like the world is upside down.

hlat said:

It feels like the world is upside down.

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The world is basicaly upside down. :)

Good luck with getting off the grain-addiction.

Aquilla said:

hlat said:

It feels like the world is upside down.

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The world is basicaly upside down. :)

Good luck with getting off the grain-addiction.

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We are making a real effort at gluten free. It can be difficult to get both organic and gluten free grain food. I suppose that is the point, to get off the grains entirely. It will take time for my spouse to get there, if ever. I think I'm allowing myself a transition as well, instead of full in. I think that is how I rationalized having a scoop of organic ice cream just now. I told myself I am under the 6 BUs, but the part of me that knows the truth knows that all this kind of stuff is poison. After all, they have to make poison attractive in order for people to seek it out. It's hard mentally not to go full in, because anything less seems like a failure.

The bad news is that the children do not eat much meat/eggs and like grains. The good news is they like bacon, so it is all they can eat with bacon whenever they want some.

I've been constantly making chicken broth with just a chicken and water in a crock pot. I really like it, though I wonder if I'm supposed to be doing a beef bone broth instead.

hlat said:

Aquilla said:

hlat said:

It feels like the world is upside down.

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The world is basicaly upside down. :)

Good luck with getting off the grain-addiction.

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We are making a real effort at gluten free. It can be difficult to get both organic and gluten free grain food. I suppose that is the point, to get off the grains entirely. It will take time for my spouse to get there, if ever. I think I'm allowing myself a transition as well, instead of full in. I think that is how I rationalized having a scoop of organic ice cream just now. I told myself I am under the 6 BUs, but the part of me that knows the truth knows that all this kind of stuff is poison. After all, they have to make poison attractive in order for people to seek it out. It's hard mentally not to go full in, because anything less seems like a failure.

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You can make your own non-poison ice-cream for you and your family, if you can tolerate coconut products. I don't tolerate it well, but I have a little bit once in a while, and it doesn't bother me much, and the family loves it.

We are using this little, easy to use, and cheap machine

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-Serve-Cream-Maker/dp/B003R4NE5E

We put 2 cans of organic coconut milk (the full fat creamy kind) and mix it with xylitol and organic vanilla, and into the machine, then freezer and we have one of the best vanilla ice creams. Add cocoa to the mix, and you have delicious chocolate ice cream. It is best to eat it as soon as you make it though, because the freezer makes it hard. So if I have it in the freezer I take it out a couple of hours before I will use it. Sometimes I add a bit of gelatin to keep it creamy too. You can experiment with it and see how it works for you.

Regarding broth, I personally don't like the chicken one as much. I find that pork bone broth has better taste and is richer than chicken broth. Beef broth is now bad either.

Are these ingredients ok to eat? No celery powder so no added nitrates.

Bacon: Sea salt, organic evaporated cane sugar, organic brown sugar, organic cinnamon, organic cloves

Breakfast patties: Organic Pork, Water, Salt, Pepper, Marjoram, Sage, Evap. Cane Juice.

For my 1 year old, I was thinking about switching her off of coconut milk and onto Organic Valley 100% grassfed milk. Is that a good idea? I cannot find organic goat milk. I try feeding her chicken broth that I make, but she's not very good drinking off a spoon.

hlat said:

Are these ingredients ok to eat? No celery powder so no added nitrates.

Bacon: Sea salt, organic evaporated cane sugar, organic brown sugar, organic cinnamon, organic cloves

Breakfast patties: Organic Pork, Water, Salt, Pepper, Marjoram, Sage, Evap. Cane Juice.

For my 1 year old, I was thinking about switching her off of coconut milk and onto Organic Valley 100% grassfed milk. Is that a good idea? I cannot find organic goat milk. I try feeding her chicken broth that I make, but she's not very good drinking off a spoon.

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Hi hlat,

Two major problems I'm seeing with the listed ingredients above are the various sugars (cane and brown sugar/juice) and the milk. I'd say that if she's not having any reaction to coconut milk, then you may want to leave her on it.

Also, two questions, is it possible for you to make your own sausages and buying fresh (as in uncured) bacon and salting it yourself? I was also wondering if it was possible for you to put the bone broth into a bottle (or is she using a sippy cup?)?

truth seeker said:

hlat said:

Are these ingredients ok to eat? No celery powder so no added nitrates.

Bacon: Sea salt, organic evaporated cane sugar, organic brown sugar, organic cinnamon, organic cloves

Breakfast patties: Organic Pork, Water, Salt, Pepper, Marjoram, Sage, Evap. Cane Juice.

For my 1 year old, I was thinking about switching her off of coconut milk and onto Organic Valley 100% grassfed milk. Is that a good idea? I cannot find organic goat milk. I try feeding her chicken broth that I make, but she's not very good drinking off a spoon.

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Hi hlat,

Two major problems I'm seeing with the listed ingredients above are the various sugars (cane and brown sugar/juice) and the milk. I'd say that if she's not having any reaction to coconut milk, then you may want to leave her on it.

Also, two questions, is it possible for you to make your own sausages and buying fresh (as in uncured) bacon and salting it yourself? I was also wondering if it was possible for you to put the bone broth into a bottle (or is she using a sippy cup?)?

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Thanks truth seeker. I will try the chicken broth in bottle again. It had not worked a couple weeks back, but it could work now. At the moment, I make chicken broth by putting a chicken in a crock pot with water and letting it cook for about 20 hours. I am still trying to find organic beef marrow bones. As for the bacon, maybe the sugar will be ok as a transition step. Right now the stores around me only have Applegate organic bacon, which contains both sugar and celery powder, and no organic ground pork. I think I am taking a step in the right direction getting the bacon listed above that does not have celery powder. I will keep looking for bacon without sugar too.

I have seen people mention grasslandbeef, but I don't like them because they say they are using GMO feed for their pigs. No thanks. I'm sticking with certified organic because of practices like that.

One successful feeding of chicken broth in bottle so far, and some unsuccessful attempts.

I wonder if I am doing something wrong with making the chicken broth. After I am done cooking 20+ hours, I keep the liquid and dump everything else. Am I supposed to do something different? It seems wasteful to dump the meat, but the meat is flavorless by then.

Some times my broth was not good at all but I think it was due to species I was putting in. Lately they are perfect: I just add ginger, onion, oregano, vinegar. That's all. I keep the bones in the broth till I finish the liquid than I give the bones after that to my dogs. I cook the broth no more than 7 hours, I have to economize the gas... Lately I drink the broth cold, it is really delicious.

I take the meat out of the broth when it's done, then I dry the meat in the oven for about an hour at low temp (maybe 120°C). I will eat that meat with some "grattons" (scratchings ?) and ghee or add it back to a cup of broth.

I will pass what is not meat or bone in the mixer.

hlat said:

One successful feeding of chicken broth in bottle so far, and some unsuccessful attempts.

I wonder if I am doing something wrong with making the chicken broth. After I am done cooking 20+ hours, I keep the liquid and dump everything else. Am I supposed to do something different? It seems wasteful to dump the meat, but the meat is flavorless by then.

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I wonder if you might be cooking the chicken bones too long. I think that chicken/turkey bones might not need as much time cooking as mammal bones and that the broth may become off somehow after cooking for too long (the taste can get "off" or dull sometimes, in my experience), but I don't have any hard data indicating that this is a problem. The times I've made chicken bone broth, I've usually cooked it for around 12 hours, and this was usually after I had baked the chicken first and eaten the meat, so the bones had gone through a heating process already which may factor in.

Does the broth taste and smell good after you've cooked it? I think it should if it's turned out right.

There's also this article that might be helpful on the differences between stock and broth:

http://www.sott.net/article/257416-Stock-vs-Broth-Are-You-Confused

The broth tastes great, so that is not a problem. I haven't been using anything but the liquid though. It just seemed wasteful to get rid of the meat. I don't cook with the breast, I cut that out first before putting the rest of the chicken in the crock pot for broth. You guys put the skin and broth in a blender afterwards?