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Psychopathology in Canadian Politics: Stephen Harper's Ruthless Drive for Power

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fabric:
Just some musings here, and apologies if it's noisy....

With the elections coming up, I was wondering whether there was any point to voting at all..... I mean, voting for the lesser of three evils is still voting for evil! And in my whole adult life I think I've only voted once, just to see what it was about. But after reading this I got to thinking, we talk about how voting doesn't work or change anything, but then again, not all situations are the same. Unlike the US where it's pretty much Democrats or Republicans and you're stuck with 2 sides of the same coin, we have a system that allows for a minority government... from the article:


--- Quote ---So, if it's true that all top level politicians are in the pockets of the corporate financial military industrial complex, one might wonder if there is any point in voting at all? Why even bother participating in the political process if the new boss is going to be exactly like the old boss. Sadly, considering the big picture, the truth is there probably is no point in going to the polls on May 2nd in Canada. However, one positive aspect of the British parliamentary system is that minority governments can function quite well in the day to day running of a country. As long as no psychopathic leader of any one party can impose their will uninhibited upon the citizens in a so-called democracy, it can be seen in a positive way. As long as these white collar criminals are kept occupied arguing with each other, perhaps it will give the regular people a chance to breathe, come to their senses, see the reality of the world they live in and hopefully work together to solve the problems facing them. Networking as a community, as this is what real human beings are wont to do.
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So this situation, I guess my intent would be to vote in hopes of 'prevent' something (like Harper's majority government) from happening. At the beginning I did not see any point at all, but if enough people vote for the other guys to maintain a 'minority' government, they will be able to keep some check on each others policies. Not to say that it won't stop all these new draconian measure they want to install, but at least delay them....maybe.

At least we don't have electronic voting machines...yet. And yes, they can still cheat to get a majority and it will be interesting to see how it will all play out.

Oh, and I still think it's pointless but I'm considering to go and vote. Question is, what is the most effective use of my vote? I don't like any of them, yet don't want to vote for someone that has no seats. It seems like the NDP have the least number of seats. The Green party doesn't have any so don't know about that. The Bloc were the next lowest.... (yes I'm only considering to balance seats, since they all lie and there's definitely no point in voting based on "policy")...

I guess I'll just decide when I'm there...  :huh:

Woodsman:
I know exactly how you feel.

I've always felt that, "If I vote, then I'm saying I'm okay with being taxed and having that money spent on terrible things I do not agree with."

And so I generally avoid voting.

In this case, however, I don't want a "Fox North".  Harper's overt villainy disgusts me beyond my capacity to ignore.  It should be noted that the speed of Ponorization increases rapidly with overt expression, and so I'd like to keep the blare of propaganda to a minimum.  This vote may actually have that effect.  So, Yes, I'm voting.

Government isn't a bad idea.  I like the concept of co-ops, which is what a government by the people is supposed to be.  At its best, it's a giant collective effort which can be used to control corporate powers which certainly are NOT acting in the people's best interest.  Problem is, governments are all broken and rotten beyond help.  The only fix is to, "nuke it from orbit".  (It's the only way to be sure.)

Luckily, that's being taken care of, but until Mother Earth resets, if I can help slow the decay by participating in making a choice away from overt evil, then that's worth doing.  I think, anyway.

dugdeep:
The way I see it, no matter who you vote for, no matter who gets into office, nothing will sway the PTB from implementing their plan at the pace at which they want to implement it. Votes change nothing; they're the illusion that you have a say in your fate of your country. The system is so completely controlled from the top there is literally no point.

I was just having a conversation about this the other night. One of the people in the conversation was of the opinion that if we could just get Jack Leighton in, things would really change. If that were true, which it probably isn't, then he would never be allowed in. I really think it's as simple as that. The psychopaths don't play by the rules, so they never lose. Just think about this - do you really think the people at the top of the pyramid are worried about how the Canadian people are going to vote? Do you think that's keeping them up at night? Not a chance.

Bleak as that may seem, I have trouble seeing a vote as anything but wishful thinking.

Woodsman:

--- Quote from: dugdeep on April 28, 2011, 05:57:27 AM ---The way I see it, no matter who you vote for, no matter who gets into office, nothing will sway the PTB from implementing their plan at the pace at which they want to implement it. Votes change nothing; they're the illusion that you have a say in your fate of your country. The system is so completely controlled from the top there is literally no point.

I was just having a conversation about this the other night. One of the people in the conversation was of the opinion that if we could just get Jack Leighton in, things would really change. If that were true, which it probably isn't, then he would never be allowed in. I really think it's as simple as that. The psychopaths don't play by the rules, so they never lose. Just think about this - do you really think the people at the top of the pyramid are worried about how the Canadian people are going to vote? Do you think that's keeping them up at night? Not a chance.

Bleak as that may seem, I have trouble seeing a vote as anything but wishful thinking.

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You're probably right.  Which door the cattle enter the rendering plant through makes little difference.  Though I can't help but remember those aspects of the Protocols of Zion which explain that one big goal was to cause the people to overthrow their own governments, the only real bodies capable of protecting them from the clutches of Zionist control.

Also. . , a whole population CHOOSING something may not make any difference on the ground if the game is rigged, but spiritually it might mean a great deal.  Maybe intent is the key?

Honestly, I feel torn and despondent about the whole thing, but this dumb bull is going to cast his vote and talk about ponerology around town before, during and afterwards.  In any case, it makes a real difference on the small scale; I don't want my local representative to be a nasty idiot.  Assuming the vote system isn't rigged, then who I help pick actually affects my immediate community in a concrete way.

Harold:
This Monday is a national election in Canada... I don't like any of the parties. Gonna vote strategically to get rid of Stephen Harper... hope its ok to bring this up...

I am very interested in what the forums thoughts are on this topic and as I dont have any free time these days, it would help me a great deal on my choice and maybe get some articles to read. Does the forum have a stance on this? Very curious. I am not following mass media these days and am also interested in how the forum see's these kinds of things... I am very tired right now and cant think of something useful to say about it all... any help would be great.

Thank-you:)

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