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Psychopathology in Canadian Politics: Stephen Harper's Ruthless Drive for Power

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Mona:
Hello Fabric,

I plan not to vote at all, I personally think that there is no point in doing so as the new leader-psychopath has already been chosen for us. The next one is going to be Michael Ignatieff. I think he will have no problems to give orders to start shooting the Canadian people if they decide to wake up for a change, and will want to force the government to finally serve the people's interests instead of their own.

Just read about his biography here: http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0010530

Here is the article:

Michael Grant Ignatieff, writer, broadcaster, professor, politician (b at Toronto, 12 May 1947). Michael Ignatieff is the scion of two distinguished families. He is grandson of Count Paul Ignatieff, Imperial Russia's last minister of education, and Princess Natalie Mestchersky. Through his mother, Alison, he is a descendent of two principals of UPPER CANADA COLLEGE (grandfather William Lawson Grant and great-grandfather George PARKIN) and one principal of Queen's University (great-grandfather George Monro GRANT). Philosopher George Parkin GRANT was his uncle.
Ignatieff's early childhood was spent in New York, Washington, Belgrade, and London, the capitals where his father, Canadian diplomat George IGNATIEFF, was posted. The young Ignatieff completed his secondary schooling at Upper Canada College before going to the UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO, where he received a bachelor's degree in history in 1969. In 1976, Ignatieff received a PhD in history from Harvard, with a thesis on the British prison system during the industrial revolution. After two years teaching at the UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, he accepted a research fellowship at King's College, Cambridge.

Ignatieff left the university in 1984 to work as a writer and broadcaster in London, England. Over the next two decades, he became one of the leading public intellectuals in the English-speaking world. He was the host of Thinking Aloud and The Late Show, talk shows broadcast on BBC television. He was a weekly columnist with the London Observer and wrote for other major periodicals, including The New Yorker, The Financial Times, The Guardian, Dissent, and The New York Times Magazine.

Ignatieff wrote several volumes of fiction and non-fiction. The Russian Album (1987), in which he traced the history of four generations of his family, won the Governor General's award in Canada. His highly-praised novel, Scar Tissue (1993), told the story of a woman suffering from dementia from the point of view of the son who cared for her. Again, there was an element of family history: Ignatieff's own mother, Alison, had suffered from Alzheimer's and his brother Andrew had looked after her. Blood and Belonging: Journeying into the New Nationalism (1993) and Virtual War: Kosovo and Beyond (2000) both won major awards. Isaiah Berlin: A Life (1998), a gracefully-written biography of the liberal philosopher, won widespread acclaim.

Ignatieff left Britain in 2000 to take up a position as director of Carr Centre for Human Rights Policy at Harvard. He endorsed the US-led invasion of Iraq in a 2003 article in the New York Times Magazine, arguing that war was a legitimate last resort to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and to end the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, a position he repeated in Empire Lite: Nation-Building in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan (2003).

After living abroad for 36 years, Ignatieff returned to Canada in 2005 to become visiting professor in human rights policy at the University of Toronto and senior fellow at the university's Munk Centre for International Studies. He won the federal LIBERAL PARTY's nomination in Etobicoke-Lakeshore and was elected to Parliament in January 2006. Just three months later, Ignatieff became a candidate for his party's leadership. As the front-runner, he quickly came under attack, criticized for his long absence from Canada and for having supported the American war in Iraq. Opponents also claimed that Ignatieff supported torture, pointing to a 2004 article in which he argued that "coercive interrogations" might be necessary on occasion "to defeat evil." Ignatieff vehemently denied the allegation, insisting he was opposed to torture. At the leadership convention in December 2006, Ignatieff placed second to Stéphane DION, who quickly appointed the runner-up as deputy leader.

Ignatieff backed away from his support for the Iraq war in an August 2007 article in the New York Times Magazine. His original position, he said, was based in part on emotions born of a 1992 trip to Iraq, where he saw the brutal way Saddam had treated his country's Kurdish population.

Dion announced he would step down following the Liberal party's October 2008 electoral defeat, and Ignatieff again declared himself a candidate for the leadership. After his rivals withdrew from the race, Ignatieff was appointed acting leader on 10 December.

Pagan:
That is the thing about politics. I can't vote for someone I like as I don't like any of them. I can only vote for who I dislike the least. It is always a case of "hold your nose and vote".

Having said all that, I think the best choice is Harper and the Tories. I can almost hear your gasps! Many of you have said you don't like any of the parties or their leaders, but your default position seems to be vote against Harper and the Tories. I respectfully disagree. I think he is the best of a bad lot. Going over the parties;

I don't and never have lived in Quebec so I can't vote BQ
I am far too much of an individualist to vote for the socialist party, the NDP. I also don't think they would be competant administrators.
The Liberals are, in my mind, really power hungry, without any real principles. Hopelessly arrogant as well. The "Natural Governing Party" they call themselves. Shudder! Plus, Iggy gives me the creeps and strikes me as an acedemic that should have stayed on campus.
The Greens are a joke. Wake me up when they win a seat.

That leaves the Tories. Harper is a capable administrator. That's probably the best you can hope for. I also don't believe that he is the jack-booted Nazi that the left makes him out to be. So I am a Tory supporter. Hope I don't get banned from the forum for that!

manitoban:

--- Quote from: Pagan on April 29, 2011, 09:46:54 PM ---That leaves the Tories. Harper is a capable administrator. That's probably the best you can hope for. I also don't believe that he is the jack-booted Nazi that the left makes him out to be. So I am a Tory supporter. Hope I don't get banned from the forum for that!

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Pagan, have you read this article?  http://www.sott.net/articles/show/227547-Psychopathology-in-Canadian-Politics-Stephen-Harper-s-Ruthless-Drive-for-Power

davidfxl:
I too am a Canadian voter and have struggled with the issue "To Vote or Not to Vote". The way I see it, the parties are all in it for themselves, at the same time they serve the PTB. Having this in mind, my vote for the NDP will support hopefully a minority government. I do this becasue STS types even though they are controlled from a higher power, will still fight among themselves for position in the hierarchy of power. So I will suppport via my vote anything that supports in-fighting to slow the process of total control and decay of the Canadian political system. I know our system is a sick puppy but under a majority Harper government, whoo the freight trian is fully loaded and headed off the tracks for the rest of us.

Turgon:

--- Quote from: Woodman ---It should be noted that the speed of Ponorization increases rapidly with overt expression, and so I'd like to keep the blare of propaganda to a minimum.  This vote may actually have that effect.  So, Yes, I'm voting.

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I tend to agree with this.  Layton's hands would most likely be tied if voted in, but at least it would slow down the ponerization process here in Canada, as opposed to Harper's hand's untied, which I think would speed the process up.

And one of the biggest surprises of this election campaign has been the ground the NDP has covered.  They are looking to possibly become the major opposition party which has stunned many as the two choices were supposed to be Iggy or Harper. 

So yes, I am going to vote for what seems to me, the least ponerized of the those 3 parties. 

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