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Psychopathology in Canadian Politics: Stephen Harper's Ruthless Drive for Power
Pagan:
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--- Quote from: Pagan on April 29, 2011, 09:46:54 PM ---That leaves the Tories. Harper is a capable administrator. That's probably the best you can hope for. I also don't believe that he is the jack-booted Nazi that the left makes him out to be. So I am a Tory supporter. Hope I don't get banned from the forum for that!
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Pagan, have you read this article? http://www.sott.net/articles/show/227547-Psychopathology-in-Canadian-Politics-Stephen-Harper-s-Ruthless-Drive-for-Power
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Yes Manitoban, I have read the article. I consider it nonsense and fear mongering.
1. To consider Harper, the Tories, and the National Citizens Coalition as "Ultra-right" is silly. For a time, I lived in Aparthied era South Africa. Harper et al is not even close to ultra-right.
2. The left always applies double standards to Harper and the Tories. The left severely criticizes Harper for prorouging parliament. Liberal PM Jean Chretien did it 4 times and nobody said boo.
3. For a much better example of a self-loving, dictatorial psychopath in Canadian politics, review the career of Pierre Trudeau. But of course, Trudeau was the darling of the left.
4. Does the author of this article actually believe that a US military invasion of Canada is coming? Get serious. Even it it were, what exactly would Jack Layton do about it?
I am being put in the uncomfortable position of defending Harper and the Tories. There is much to dislike. Their unconditional support of Israel comes to mind. However, I maintain that they are the best of a bad lot.
p.s. I too am a "Manitoban" but have not set foot there in over 20 years.
Turgon:
--- Quote from: Pagan ---I am being put in the uncomfortable position of defending Harper and the Tories. There is much to dislike. Their unconditional support of Israel comes to mind. However, I maintain that they are the best of a bad lot.
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No one here is putting you into an uncomfortable position other than the one you've imagined for yourself. From the standpoint of psychopathology, based upon their leader, they are not the best of a bad lot. Harper clearly show's signs of psychopathy, which was easily observed in the Federal debate. He was the only that didn't show some type of emotional reaction AT ALL during an entire debate. Isn't that the least bit disturbing. I mean, human beings, when put under pressure and questioned will naturally show some tell-tale signs of distress, which is a normal reaction.
--- Quote from: Pagan ---3. For a much better example of a self-loving, dictatorial psychopath in Canadian politics, review the career of Pierre Trudeau. But of course, Trudeau was the darling of the left.
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--- Quote from: Pagan ---2. The left always applies double standards to Harper and the Tories. The left severely criticizes Harper for prorouging parliament. Liberal PM Jean Chretien did it 4 times and nobody said boo.
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It seems to me you are caught up in left/right, red/blue thinking. That's not what this is about. Harper's actions and demeanour are indicative of a psychopath, more so than the other candidates.
Pagan:
--- Quote from: Turgon on April 30, 2011, 02:15:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Pagan ---I am being put in the uncomfortable position of defending Harper and the Tories. There is much to dislike. Their unconditional support of Israel comes to mind. However, I maintain that they are the best of a bad lot.
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No one here is putting you into an uncomfortable position other than the one you've imagined for yourself. From the standpoint of psychopathology, based upon their leader, they are not the best of a bad lot. Harper clearly show's signs of psychopathy, which was easily observed in the Federal debate. He was the only that didn't show some type of emotional reaction AT ALL during an entire debate. Isn't that the least bit disturbing. I mean, human beings, when put under pressure and questioned will naturally show some tell-tale signs of distress, which is a normal reaction.
--- Quote from: Pagan ---3. For a much better example of a self-loving, dictatorial psychopath in Canadian politics, review the career of Pierre Trudeau. But of course, Trudeau was the darling of the left.
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--- Quote from: Pagan ---2. The left always applies double standards to Harper and the Tories. The left severely criticizes Harper for prorouging parliament. Liberal PM Jean Chretien did it 4 times and nobody said boo.
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It seems to me you are caught up in left/right, red/blue thinking. That's not what this is about. Harper's actions and demeanour are indicative of a psychopath, more so than the other candidates.
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So let me get this straight. You are critisizing Harper for NOT getting emotional? For keeping his cool and showing some grace under pressure?
Well, the election and its aftermath will be interesting to see in any event.
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D:
--- Quote from: davidfxl on April 30, 2011, 12:13:09 AM ---I too am a Canadian voter and have struggled with the issue "To Vote or Not to Vote". The way I see it, the parties are all in it for themselves, at the same time they serve the PTB. Having this in mind, my vote for the NDP will support hopefully a minority government. I do this becasue STS types even though they are controlled from a higher power, will still fight among themselves for position in the hierarchy of power. So I will suppport via my vote anything that supports in-fighting to slow the process of total control and decay of the Canadian political system. I know our system is a sick puppy but under a majority Harper government, whoo the freight trian is fully loaded and headed off the tracks for the rest of us.
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I read this today that I thought was interesting!
2 Bloc members support NDP
You know... I have to admit that I would not be surprised if Jack Layton turns out to be like the Canadian 'Obama'. And basically go back on everything he's promised. But I rather him win, and prove everyone wrong than Harper or Iggy win. We already know what we will get with Harper & Iggy... but Layton may surprise us.
Pagan:
It could be an interesting week in Canadian politics next week. That certainly doesn't happen often!
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