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I am starting this thread because it doesn't take a genius to figure out where Mexico is headed. My thinking is that we can keep track of news specifically referring to this and post them here so that if anyone wants to they can see both the prediction made 17 years ago and the relevant information regarding same, but here is the session in question.
By the way this is anecdotal, but the husband of my cousin recently visited Mexico on business and he said it was a "bad" place, "you don't wanna go there". He said lots of blatant drug use on the streets, etc
But lets get started on the evidence.
From http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18465182?IADID=Search-www.elpasotimes.com-www.elpasotimes.com
Who are the Zetas ? From http://samuellogan.blogspot.com/2009/01/inside-los-zetas.html
Know to illustrate who the backers of the destabilization program are there is this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious
Notice how they say "possibly remain in the hands of the drug gangs". This operation was a pretty stupid one from the get go. As if the assorted alphabet agencies need help tracking cartel members.
More on fast and furious from: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fast_furious_gets_hotter_for_holder_wDCoBUrOxYF8r1GobKS89M#ixzz1RS6y8IxJ
What we seem to have going on is a classic Hegelian dialectic scheme going on. Purpose (speculation on) arming both sides of a conflict in this case the drug cartels and the Mexican military. From the looks of it it seems the drug cartels have an upper hand judging from the sheer amount of violence going on. But so what you have is a low scale civil war for know anyway (speculation off). We will just have to wait and see how the events will proceed from the state that they are in.
Then there is always the question of interpretation as to "Mexico fall". Could be earth changes related as in this from: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232196-Gigantic-Crack-Opens-Up-In-Mexico
I maybe waayy of on this, but then again...
Laura said:July 22, 1994 about 10:30 p.m.
Q: (L) Do you have information for us this evening?
A: Space invasion soon. Four to six years. Battle between forces good and evil. Wait near. Look far. Listen. Mexico fall; Ethiopia quake; September - both - New Near - January - Paris bomb - London Blizzard - 109 die - Plane down - Tahiti - Cholera - Montana - January 1995 - government US - behind California quakes - Three soon - Oklahoma political abduction - February 95 - Big news.[4]
By the way this is anecdotal, but the husband of my cousin recently visited Mexico on business and he said it was a "bad" place, "you don't wanna go there". He said lots of blatant drug use on the streets, etc
But lets get started on the evidence.
From http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18465182?IADID=Search-www.elpasotimes.com-www.elpasotimes.com
The brutally violent Zetas drug organization may be smuggling military-grade weapons through El Paso and Columbus, N.M., to feed its ongoing battles against other cartels and to possibly disrupt the 2012 elections in Mexico. Phil Jordan, a former director of the DEA's El Paso Intelligence Center and a former CIA operative, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons through the El Paso area.
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"They are purchasing weapons in the Dallas area and are flying them to El Paso, and then they are taking them across the border into Juárez," said Jordan, a law enforcement consultant and former DEA official who still has contacts in the law enforcement community."
"What's ironic is that the DEA also uses the Alliance Airport for some of its operations," Jordan said.
Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, a former CIA contract pilot, supported Jordan's allegations and said the Zetas allegedly also purchased property in the Columbus-Palomas border region to stash weapons and other contraband. He said purchasing property and setting up a weapons-smuggling network suggests that the Zetas were establishing a staging area for their operations.
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Earlier this month, Plumlee had a debriefing with the Border Patrol in Las Cruces about the intelligence he gathered when he accompanied the U.S. military's Task Force 7 along the border.
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"The military task force became concerned that its information about arms smuggling was being compromised," Plumlee said. "From the intel, it appears that a company was set up in Mexico to purchase weapons through the U.S. Direct Commercial Sales program, and that the company may have had a direct link to the Zetas."
Under the Direct Commercial Sales program, the U.S. State Department regulates and licenses businesses to sell weapons and defense services and training for export. Last year, according to U.S. statistics, the program was used to provide Mexico $416.5 million worth of weapons and equipment, including military-grade weaponry.
Jesús Rejón Aguilar, the number three man in the Zeta's hierarchy, disclosed last week that the Zetas bought weapons in the United States and transported them across the Rio Grande.
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The FBI said the Zetas emerged from an elite Mexican army unit known as Grupo Aeromóvil de Fuerzas Especiales, or GAFE, that was created to fight drug-traffickers. Some GAFE members received special U.S. military training.
In 2002, "an unknown number deserted and joined the Gulf cartel, serving as the hired guns for cartel leadership," the FBI bulletin said. "Since that time Los Zetas has grown into a sizeable, semi-independent organization."
"Most of the military-type weapons have been found in stash houses, being stored up," Plumlee said. "This is getting into theory now, but I think the Zetas are saving them for the (2012) election season. They probably want to be included in a part of the government."
Who are the Zetas ? From http://samuellogan.blogspot.com/2009/01/inside-los-zetas.html
Many understand that the Los Zetas is a well organized drug trafficking organization, formed by members of a group of Mexican soldiers who deserted their unit, known as the Grupo Aeromóvil de Fuerzas Especiales (GAFES).
The GAFES deserters, totaling around 40 men, stuck together and offered their services to the Gulf Cartel, and Osiel Cárdenas, specifically. But once he was extradited around two years ago today, Heriberto Lazcano, aka El Lazca, took absolute control of Los Zetas. The group slowly but surely took complete command and control over all of the drug trafficking corridors formerly operated by the Gulf Cartel, primarily the plazas from Nuevo Laredo to Matamoros, across the border from Brownsville, Tx in the lower Rio Grande Valley.
When El Lazca took over the Gulf Cartel’s operations, Mexico experienced a cascading moment in the country’s drug trade. For the first time in Mexican history, we had a military unit operating like a drug trafficking organization (DTO). In Mexico, it’s normally the other way around.
And based on what we know from Colombian history, when you have a disciplined military unit operating as a DTO, it’s very hard to dislodge entrenched soldiers. The Zetas differ in one very important aspect: they are willing to take the Mexican military head on – and so far, the Mexican military has, at best, disrupted only a fraction of the group’s operations.
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But where the Zetas differ, I think, is again with the military order that reigns throughout the organization and the crisp, clean nature of many of the group’s operations. There are documented cases of paramilitary training for new Zetas, especially those with little to no military experience. Training camps dot the landscape in Tamaulipas and Nuevo Leon, hidden within large acre ranches.
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The bottom line, however, is that the Zetas is a well trained, well informed, and absurdly rich organization that will take more than the Mexican military to bring down. We tend to focus on just the top members, but when you consider all the levels within the organization that I’ve described above, the whole Zeta DTO expands into a massive criminal organization that likely employs thousands in a country where finding a legitimate job is very difficult, if not next to impossible in today’s economic climate.
Know to illustrate who the backers of the destabilization program are there is this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious
Operation Fast and Furious was the name of an illegal gun trafficking sting run by the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) between 2009 and 2010. The stated purpose of the sting was to permit otherwise-suspected straw purchasers to complete the weapon's purchase and transit to Mexico, in order to build a bigger case against Mexican criminal organizations who were suspected of being the ultimate buyer.[1] The operation started in the fall of 2009 and ended in late 2010 shortly after the death of Brian Terry, a US Border Patrol Agent and has since become the subject of controversy and a U.S. congressional investigation. During the operation, at least 2,000 guns were released and tracked by ATF agents into Mexico, many of which have been linked to at least 150 shootings. Of the 2,000 guns knowingly released by ATF agents, only 600 have been recovered by officials. The remaining 1,400 guns have not been recovered and possibly remain in the hands of drug gangs.
Notice how they say "possibly remain in the hands of the drug gangs". This operation was a pretty stupid one from the get go. As if the assorted alphabet agencies need help tracking cartel members.
More on fast and furious from: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fast_furious_gets_hotter_for_holder_wDCoBUrOxYF8r1GobKS89M#ixzz1RS6y8IxJ
Don't look now, but the real action in Washington this week isn't the parti san wrangling over the debt ceiling but something -- literally -- even more incendiary: Operation Fast and Furious, which seems about to explode right in the face of Attorney General Eric Holder -- and maybe other administration officials, too.
Also known as Project Gunrunner, the Arizona-based operation was supposed to be a sting, under which the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is part of the Justice Department, allowed "straw purchasers" to transfer weapons from gun shops in Arizona to Mexican drug cartels to trace and halt crossborder arms-trafficking.
That's the official version, anyway -- but it's crumbling, fast.
The ATF's acting director, Kenneth Melson, has been singing like a canary to congressional investigators as he pushes back against administration pressure for him to resign and take the fall for something that, at the very least, had to include the US Attorney's Office, the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration and possibly the Homeland Security Department.
In a letter to Holder released yesterday, Rep. Daryl Issa and Sen. Chuck Grassley accused the Justice Department of blocking their investigation into the burgeoning scandal (which has resulted in the deaths of at least two American agents and countless Mexican civilians), muzzling the ATF and involving other federal agencies, including the FBI and the DEA, in funding the crackpot scheme.
"The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons, but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities," they wrote.
What we seem to have going on is a classic Hegelian dialectic scheme going on. Purpose (speculation on) arming both sides of a conflict in this case the drug cartels and the Mexican military. From the looks of it it seems the drug cartels have an upper hand judging from the sheer amount of violence going on. But so what you have is a low scale civil war for know anyway (speculation off). We will just have to wait and see how the events will proceed from the state that they are in.
Then there is always the question of interpretation as to "Mexico fall". Could be earth changes related as in this from: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232196-Gigantic-Crack-Opens-Up-In-Mexico
The crack appeared on 13 July in Santa Maria Huejoculco in Chalco, State Mexico, land has now reached 500 meters long and authorities have not taken preventive measures, warned James Espinoza Hilario,
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These failures are part of a family of cracks that exist in the region and threaten to spread across the entire east area of the Valley of Mexico.
This event began back 2009 in a small area of this region but since it has grown and is eating up everything around it .
I maybe waayy of on this, but then again...