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Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« on: July 30, 2011, 02:59:10 PM »
Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
Niall Bradley
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Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:34 CDT


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232675-Oslo-terror-attacks-Zionism-rears-its-ugly-head-again


I beg for some explanations here. Perhaps SOOT.NET editors should investigate the issue about “Oslo Police Conducted Bombing Exercise Days Before Terrorist Blast” better before jumping into any conclusions.

Perhaps too much trust on Mr. Wayne Madsen or even Alex Jones was causing the “glitch”, I don’t know, but what has been said it is simply not true.

[...] Just 48 hours before the bombing in Oslo, police units were engaged in a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House, near what would later be "ground zero."


Here is the main article and link to Aftenposten:

 http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece it says “Politiet glemte å informere om øvelse” and then please check the date, it pointing at Oppdatert: 18.03.10 kl. 09:35  Publisert: 17.03.10 kl. 17:23

This training happened more than a year ago in March 2010…! Even dull conspiracies have their own limits.


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From Norway.

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« Last Edit: July 30, 2011, 03:09:27 PM by Qbone »
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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 04:31:31 PM »
Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
Niall Bradley
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Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:34 CDT


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232675-Oslo-terror-attacks-Zionism-rears-its-ugly-head-again


I beg for some explanations here. Perhaps SOOT.NET editors should investigate the issue about “Oslo Police Conducted Bombing Exercise Days Before Terrorist Blast” better before jumping into any conclusions.

Perhaps too much trust on Mr. Wayne Madsen or even Alex Jones was causing the “glitch”, I don’t know, but what has been said it is simply not true.

[...] Just 48 hours before the bombing in Oslo, police units were engaged in a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House, near what would later be "ground zero."


Here is the main article and link to Aftenposten:

 http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece it says “Politiet glemte å informere om øvelse” and then please check the date, it pointing at Oppdatert: 18.03.10 kl. 09:35  Publisert: 17.03.10 kl. 17:23

This training happened more than a year ago in March 2010…! Even dull conspiracies have their own limits.


With regards …

From Norway.

 :O

Qbone, can you be more specific about why you think the fact of the exercises you point out contradicts any of the speculations in the article? I say speculations, because as I read it, no firm conclusion was made concerning exactly what happened. Events of these magnitudes, I think, usually need to have several factions cooperate, with others duped into cooperating without knowing it.

Anyway, if you could elaborate, it could be a good contribution to the discussion!

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 05:15:42 PM »
Hi Mr. Premise

I don’t have any problem with the entire article since I agree with most of it. Just pointing out “what is not correct”. It seems that (group of people) wanted to start fishing around for their personal agenda to prove their point of view based on incorrect data.

For example:

This is from Alex Jones website.

Paul Joseph Watson
 Prison Planet.com
 July 22, 2011

_http://www.infowars.com/oslo-police-conducted-bombing-exercise-days-before-terrorist-blast/

Then please do click on “translated version of an Aftenposten report”.

Take notice the date from their google translate page is changed from the original article, why.?

Same story repeat itself on David Ike page..
 
Or just google “Oslo Police Conducted Bombing Exercise Days Before Terrorist Blast” and you’ll get about 2,860,000 results (0.36 seconds) all repeating the same story without even someone noticing the date.

That’s what I call an AGENDA.

Thanks for the response.

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2011, 08:09:23 PM »
Qbone, I still don't understand what you think is not correct about the article.

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 09:13:08 PM »
If I understand Qbone correct it is the dating of the terror-exercise that are claimed to taken place 48 hours before the attack. It isn`t correct. As Qbone pointed out it took place last year.

_http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece

Sott.net has it here http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232413-Police-anti-terror-drills-in-Oslo-48-hours-before-bombing-tragic-irony-or-Standard-Operating-Procedure-for-State-Terrorism-

and here:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232469-After-Oslo-Time-to-Crack-Down-On-Mossad-Terrorism

and is quoted in Knialls exelent article

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In a move that complements American and Israeli propaganda that Norway has not stepped up to the surveillance state model imposed by other Western governments, the suspicious WikiLeaks decided to release U.S. State Department cables from the U.S. embassy in Oslo that criticized Norway for not recognizing the "Al Qaeda" threat and maintaining an insufficient security apparatus to combat Islamist terrorism and Pakistani immigrants. [...]

Last November, the Norwegian government was shocked to learn that the U.S. embassy was operating a Surveillance Detection Unit in Oslo that was monitoring Norwegian citizens. [...] Just 48 hours before the bombing in Oslo, police units were engaged in a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House, near what would later be "ground zero." In addition, in the days before the terrorist bombing, there was suspicious sewer work being conducted in the area near the Prime Minister's office. 
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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2011, 09:55:31 PM »
If I understand Qbone correct it is the dating of the terror-exercise that are claimed to taken place 48 hours before the attack. It isn`t correct. As Qbone pointed out it took place last year.

_http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece

Sott.net has it here http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232413-Police-anti-terror-drills-in-Oslo-48-hours-before-bombing-tragic-irony-or-Standard-Operating-Procedure-for-State-Terrorism-

and here:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232469-After-Oslo-Time-to-Crack-Down-On-Mossad-Terrorism
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232413-Police-anti-terror-drills-in-Oslo-48-hours-before-bombing-tragic-irony-or-Standard-Operating-Procedure-for-State-Terrorism-



and is quoted in Knialls exelent article

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In a move that complements American and Israeli propaganda that Norway has not stepped up to the surveillance state model imposed by other Western governments, the suspicious WikiLeaks decided to release U.S. State Department cables from the U.S. embassy in Oslo that criticized Norway for not recognizing the "Al Qaeda" threat and maintaining an insufficient security apparatus to combat Islamist terrorism and Pakistani immigrants. [...]

Last November, the Norwegian government was shocked to learn that the U.S. embassy was operating a Surveillance Detection Unit in Oslo that was monitoring Norwegian citizens. [...] Just 48 hours before the bombing in Oslo, police units were engaged in a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House, near what would later be "ground zero." In addition, in the days before the terrorist bombing, there was suspicious sewer work being conducted in the area near the Prime Minister's office. 
My bolding

I think that is the crux of the matter he is trying to express.
I did not researched yet if it is true what Qbone is saying or not.

Qbone from what I see, the statement you can can read on the SOTT net article is not from SOTT.net, it is from Wayne Madsen.
I can't find in eather of those three articles on SOTT.net (in wich you all postet the same message as here on this thread) a conclusion
from SOTT about that matter you are talking about. 
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http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232469-After-Oslo-Time-to-Crack-Down-On-Mossad-Terrorism
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232675-Oslo-terror-attacks-Zionism-rears-its-ugly-head-again
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232413-Police-anti-terror-drills-in-Oslo-48-hours-before-bombing-tragic-irony-or-Standard-Operating-Procedure-for-State-Terrorism-

If it is true that those Police Bombing Exercise were indeed in 2010 wich I can't judge in the moment I'm sure the Editors will handle this truthfully.

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 10:05:21 PM »
That’s correct Arne , thanks for the explanation.

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 10:06:37 PM »
Hi Pashalis

Yes I know it was taken from WM hence I was almost shocked since most of the time I like reading and following his articles.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not complaining or anything but since I am a long time Reader and follower of the SOTT.Net I’d rather like to point out the facts, nothing more.

Thanks again.
 

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2011, 10:25:02 PM »
Qbone, just to make sure I'm understanding this correctly, is it that your only objection to the is the dating of the training exercise, or are you saying that that fact raises questions about the conclusions of the article?

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 10:38:26 PM »
Hi Pashalis

Yes it is. This glitch will reduce the trust worthiness of the main article, as far as I remember SOTT editors/writers always open up a small window in articles (especially those written by someone else) to express their own personal point of view/finding.

Perhaps Mr Niall Bradley was a little bit hasty to publish the article without researching it thoroughly.


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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 10:50:19 PM »
Hadn't realised this was included in the article. Since it seems the date was wrong, we have removed the reference. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2011, 10:54:18 PM »
This is from Alex Jones website.

Paul Joseph Watson
 Prison Planet.com
 July 22, 2011

_http://www.infowars.com/oslo-police-conducted-bombing-exercise-days-before-terrorist-blast/

Then please do click on “translated version of an Aftenposten report”.

Take notice the date from their google translate page is changed from the original article, why.?

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That's an interesting question and I'm truly curious what the answer is.

The link on PP to google translation is this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmobil.aftenposten.no%2Farticle.htm%3FarticleId%3D3569108

The date there reads: Published: 30/07/2011 22.34 Updated: 30/07/2011 22.34

Well, lets go to what has been translated, which is this:
http://mobil.aftenposten.no/article.htm?articleId=3569108

and let's see the original page...  the date is exactly the same: Published: 30/07/2011 22.34 Updated: 30/07/2011 22.34

I'm not saying there is no mistake in Niall's article, perhaps there is; mistakes happen. But what you've pointed out in your posts and supported with links doesn't prove anything yet. There is still a pretty solid possibility that there was  a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House conducted 48 hours before the bombing, and there was only an old video used again for the most recent news.

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Re: Oslo terror attacks: Zionism rears its ugly head again
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2011, 11:09:01 PM »
Hadn't realised this was included in the article. Since it seems the date was wrong, we have removed the reference. Thanks for the heads up.



Thank you.


Since removing the link in article makes my comment useless may I ask for removing my comment on the same article as well? Leaving it there may raise some questions.

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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2011, 11:15:47 PM »
This is from Alex Jones website.

Paul Joseph Watson
 Prison Planet.com
 July 22, 2011

_http://www.infowars.com/oslo-police-conducted-bombing-exercise-days-before-terrorist-blast/

Then please do click on “translated version of an Aftenposten report”.

Take notice the date from their google translate page is changed from the original article, why.?

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That's an interesting question and I'm truly curious what the answer is.

The link on PP to google translation is this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmobil.aftenposten.no%2Farticle.htm%3FarticleId%3D3569108

The date there reads: Published: 30/07/2011 22.34 Updated: 30/07/2011 22.34

Well, lets go to what has been translated, which is this:
http://mobil.aftenposten.no/article.htm?articleId=3569108

and let's see the original page...  the date is exactly the same: Published: 30/07/2011 22.34 Updated: 30/07/2011 22.34

I'm not saying there is no mistake in Niall's article, perhaps there is; mistakes happen. But what you've pointed out in your posts and supported with links doesn't prove anything yet. There is still a pretty solid possibility that there was  a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House conducted 48 hours before the bombing, and there was only an old video used again for the most recent news.


Nothing has been mentioned in Norwegian newspapers yet or else the apologies from the police force would have been all over the place a week ago.

You can check in every major Norwegian newspapers archive to find this “police training 48 hours before the bombing” if that happened this year.

There is none.


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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2011, 11:47:23 PM »
There must be a glitch in their dating system for mobil.aftenposten or something. The original article can be found here and it says it it published 17 Mars 2010. As you can see it is exactly the same text as the article link to by PP. _http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece
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