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I keep reading a lot about the Self-remembering and the Unified-I and little i's, but I can not figure out the beginning reference point of all this. I think it could be something I could really use from seeing bits and pieces of the descriptions. I apologize if it is clearly under my nose around here somewhere, but I am somewhat new to the forum and work 6 days a week and have a hard enough time just trying to catch up without searching all over the place. If someone could give me a short run-down or a reference I would greatly appreciate it!

Crystla24 said:

I keep reading a lot about the Self-remembering and the Unified-I and little i's, but I can not figure out the beginning reference point of all this.

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My suggestion would be to start with the book In Search of the Miraculous by P.D. Ouspensky. That is considered to be the foundation from which this forum approaches the Fourth Way Work. Best to start there, IMO.

I can imagine there would be alot of psycology and what-not to read to fully understand it all, but is there any way to summarize it a little bit, just enough to work with in the meantime. I live in a very rural area and chances are everybook I need to read I will need to buy online...

Heimdallr said:

Crystla24 said:

I keep reading a lot about the Self-remembering and the Unified-I and little i's, but I can not figure out the beginning reference point of all this.

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My suggestion would be to start with the book In Search of the Miraculous by P.D. Ouspensky. That is considered to be the foundation from which this forum approaches the Fourth Way Work. Best to start there, IMO.

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Thank you for the Amazon link also. I can get 3 books In Search of the Miraculous, Meetings with Remarkable Men, and The Fourth Way for $30 and free shipping; definately will be getting these.

I've recently starting reading the Bible from front to back, because I figured that would be a good place to start, since I never had. It seems to be freaking me out worse than I already had been. Maybe I am applying this self-remembering to my life and I need to figure some of it out, before I turn myself into somesort of religious fantical lunatic :) Jk, just been feeling frustrated with myself lately.

Hi Crystla24,

To start, you could listen to the podcasts about that book (ISOTM) see: http://www.sott.net/podcasts/listall and leave your cursor (mouse) resting below the player; then click and scroll to numbers 64 and 65, which are the podcasts about ISOTM and click one of them and listen. There are also transcripts from these podcasts, available here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13992.0 with the same numbers, 64 and 65.

Then there are some explanations in the glossary, see: http://cassiopedia.org/glossary/Self-Remembering and http://cassiopedia.org/glossary/Little_I's.

Also there are some threads available (in no particular order):

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,8182.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,19924.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1808.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,8850.0.html

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,17356.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23975.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,7193.0.html

When you have worked through all that, you certainly will be eager and also able to search farther on your own, I presume.
In the mean time: happy reading/listening!

Thank you very much! When I had searched it in the forum, so many people had made mention to it, there were just hundreds of small messages undesiphorable to me lol. That should be enough to get me going, thanks again.

I'm glad to get such an enthusiastic response. In the meantime I've collected a few links pages with recommended readings, to give you a head start with some of your interests, if you so wish:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,4641.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14206.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14215.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14213.0.html

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1808.msg9943.html#msg9943
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1808.msg10048.html#msg10048

I don't know who the guest in this thread is, but I don't think these could get anymore exact to what I have been going through. I work all by myself all day, everyday, 12-hours a day,6 days a week. And I have been falling into this self remembering, just like described in both these forum replies. I have gotten to where I am fully immersed in it for up to ten hours at a time and listening to the radio and reading, or even people talking, I can see what I am learning to be the Truth. I have taken advantage of this state of mind and gotten caught up in the "swiftness" of my own pace that I can do it. And as far as the "false-self"...My true-self feels like a con-artist that is not out to harm anyone, just to be able to communicate with society. I have been trying to perfect whatever I had been doing, and I knew whatever it was I was doing had been found. I just need to seek out people who can relate. It is extremely lonely feeling like expressing my true self makes me look crazy to society. It gets to be a lot to handle all these things I am realizing at a rapid rate and not even being able to describe the first step to a common person; do we ever get to vent? or does this have to be so lonely...sorry, got to venting. Whomever wrote these just lifted a tension migraine from my head, knowing that I am not alone or building upon a fabrication of my own mind. This forum is absolutely wonderful. Also, I guess I figured this out without ever reading about it to begin with, where will the possibilities take me when I do read ISOTM. I think this forum has officially kept me from driving myself crazy :) Or aiding it lol,jk ;)

Patience pays Crystla, its not a race, do not press yourself and take your time.

I thought I would "self-remember" (in quotes, 'cause I am speaking as of my own knowledge of it thus far), while reading the Bible, to see how much truth I would find and get out of it or to see if I could find any subliminal insight there. Really, the self-remembering stops when I'm on the Bible, when I can pretty much do it on Q at this point and that was disturbing and then this group here can explain it in absolute detail. Just saying that rationality at this point does make me inclined to lean towards learning here. I am also reading the Record of Nephites (an extension of the bible that is supposed to supplement and make the Bible make more sense). I was never really was super religious, but always very spiritual, just thought I would read these materials for study mostly. There is a sect of Christianity that I have come across called the Church of Christ "With the Elijah Message". They have a whole book of messages where the Angel of John the Baptist has returned as prophesied and given all these people messages (all in the 1900's), and I know the minister and he is a truck mechanic and recieved one of these messages that led him to the church and that is how they have all found each other. Anyway, this does make it hard for me to let go of alot of Christian ideas. Has anyone heard of this church and they do seem to follow and preach the lessons I have learned myself, which is also very hard to find in a church. If anyone is curious, maybe they can look it up and give me some ideas/opinions on the matter. I thought I would mention this since some of my recommended links had to do with the Bible matter I mentioned.

Crystla24 said:

I thought I would "self-remember" (in quotes, 'cause I am speaking as of my own knowledge of it thus far), while reading the Bible, to see how much truth I would find and get out of it or to see if I could find any subliminal insight there. Really, the self-remembering stops when I'm on the Bible, when I can pretty much do it on Q at this point and that was disturbing and then this group here can explain it in absolute detail. Just saying that rationality at this point does make me inclined to lean towards learning here. I am also reading the Record of Nephites (an extension of the bible that is supposed to supplement and make the Bible make more sense). I was never really was super religious, but always very spiritual, just thought I would read these materials for study mostly. There is a sect of Christianity that I have come across called the Church of Christ "With the Elijah Message". They have a whole book of messages where the Angel of John the Baptist has returned as prophesied and given all these people messages (all in the 1900's), and I know the minister and he is a truck mechanic and recieved one of these messages that led him to the church and that is how they have all found each other.

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Sounds like 4D STS manipulation to me.

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Anyway, this does make it hard for me to let go of alot of Christian ideas. Has anyone heard of this church and they do seem to follow and preach the lessons I have learned myself, which is also very hard to find in a church. If anyone is curious, maybe they can look it up and give me some ideas/opinions on the matter. I thought I would mention this since some of my recommended links had to do with the Bible matter I mentioned.

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It would probably benefit you to actually read some Burton Mack - the Bible is myth that is co-opted from much more ancient texts. It is corrupted, though there are parts that ring true woven throughout. My knowledge of the Church of Christ is that it is extremely fundamental, though I've not been around those types of folks since my teens. If that's what you're looking for from life, then you should pursue it, but it has very little to do with actually awakening in the esoteric sense.

Quote "Sounds like 4D STS Manipulation to me."

Would you expand on that? I just figured I had never read the Bible, and I was stating that I couldn't self-remember while reading it, which gave me the feeling I was not learning from it in an esoteric sense. It would be good for me to know anyhow, just for knowings sake what is in it. And the Church of Christ I just thought would be a good talking piece, where we are getting info from the C's here, and they seem to have messages of their own kind as well.

Crystla24 said:

Quote "Sounds like 4D STS Manipulation to me."

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That the minister 'received a message' and 'found the church'. Have you read the Wave Series yet? I think it will help a lot in learning to discern between manipulation and inspiration. Secret History of the World is important too, since you really get a grasp of how deeply embedded the societal control is and how to begin to escape it.

anart said:

Crystla24 said:

Quote "Sounds like 4D STS Manipulation to me."

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That the minister 'received a message' and 'found the church'. Have you read the Wave Series yet? I think it will help a lot in learning to discern between manipulation and inspiration. Secret History of the World is important too, since you really get a grasp of how deeply embedded the societal control is and how to begin to escape it.

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Yes, I see what you mean, I thought you were implying that I was being manipulated (other than by society). Knowing this person, I can see that he is not a liar or out for control over anyone. So it leads me to believe that something is in fact happening with this church. What is completely repulsive is that the messages do say "do what I say, or you will be left behind" type of control mind games. And I can't see "an all loving God" using these manipulations throughout the entire Bible as well. So does that mean that 4D STS is actually capable of making "angel" manifestations to large numbers of people. If this is so, the whole Christianity religion "coming to ripe for harvest" would indeed be a harvest, but not the kind they think they would have in store for them. IDK, the thought of it gives me the creeps. For myself, I try to treat all faiths like a disease; not metaphorically about the faith, but for my own sake to keep any hypochondriac tendencies at bay. Some of the symptoms may match up, but chances are I do not have the chronic disease spoken of. I try to keep it pure coming from myself and this self-remembering is honestly me telling myself what to feel, and I prefer that {path} to any other hand outs.

Crystla24 said:

Yes, I see what you mean, I thought you were implying that I was being manipulated (other than by society). Knowing this person, I can see that he is not a liar or out for control over anyone. So it leads me to believe that something is in fact happening with this church. What is completely repulsive is that the messages do say "do what I say, or you will be left behind" type of control mind games. And I can't see "an all loving God" using these manipulations throughout the entire Bible as well. So does that mean that 4D STS is actually capable of making "angel" manifestations to large numbers of people. If this is so, the whole Christianity religion "coming to ripe for harvest" would indeed be a harvest, but not the kind they think they would have in store for them. IDK, the thought of it gives me the creeps. For myself, I try to treat all faiths like a disease; not metaphorically about the faith, but for my own sake to keep any hypochondriac tendencies at bay. Some of the symptoms may match up, but chances are I do not have the chronic disease spoken of. I try to keep it pure coming from myself and this self-remembering is honestly me telling myself what to feel, and I prefer that {path} to any other hand outs.

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I think you need to read the Wave Series if you have any sincere desire to figure any of this out. What you've mentioned above is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg regarding 'harvest' and it's much worse than you currently imagine. It's up to you, of course, but this is the Cassiopaean forum, so it might make sense to get up to speed on the material.