Paraguay: Incredible UFO sighting
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Pashalis said:
Hi Pashalis,
This video was actually circulated in the internet a few months ago. At the time it was said that the sighting occurred in the São Paulo State countryside, in Brazil, and not in Paraguay. The people talking are obviously Brazilian, and from what they say it seems that they are in a highway between the cities of Bauru and Lençóis, which I know pretty well. The writings on the truck that pass by are also in Portuguese, so I believe this happened in Brazil.
At the time it came out for the first time, I looked for articles and statements about the sighting and I found people that did not see the UFO but that heard a very loud sound.
However, there were people debunking the video for being a fake because it seems that the UFO disappears for 1 frame when you watch it frame by frame (when the truck pass by the camera if I'm not mistaken).
I can try to find more info and translate if you're interested.
Regards,
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paralleloscope
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You are right Couragous; frame 38, just before the truck passes there suddenly is no UFO. It's easier to see if you download clip
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parallel said:
Pashalis said:
But how cool it would have been if it were true, right? ;)
I know UFOs are bad for you, but I got all excited at the time thinking what these glowing 4D critters were doing in my backyard...
But I actually prefer them to be away, of course, for the safety of my family and all.
Pashalis said:
I'm not saying the video isn't faked, I don't really consider myself experienced enough to decide one way or another, but who says UFOs can't "disappear" for a few seconds at a time? My understanding is that their presence at this density is highly tenuous, so I wouldn't be surprised to find out they fade in and out of our visual range as a matter of course. I always find it funny when people attempt to "debunk" high strangeness by applying our own limited understanding of the laws of physics. If we could explain what we see in these situations with what we already know, it wouldn't be high strangeness!
Just my 2 cents.
paralleloscope
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Can't really say fake or not. Even if UFOs do fade in and out of sight, it is curious that they chose to do so on that 1/24th of a second just before the truck passes. It could have been that 'they' were aware of the filming and computed a dissapearance at the right time to undermine credibility. The missing frame could have been inserted by whatever agency does so after the clip was released also to stain it's credibility. But if it is fake I think it a very strange and clumsy mistake to do, having gone through all that cgi bussiness to forget a frame at a most crucial moment; a transition (truck) where pixel hunters will look first.
I know what you mean and got excited at the convincing display. Though my enthusiasm almost instantly wanes as I don't really believe a truly convinving clip will get through the masks.
Courageous Inmate Sort said:
I know what you mean and got excited at the convincing display. Though my enthusiasm almost instantly wanes as I don't really believe a truly convinving clip will get through the masks.
Additionally, after reading the translated comments, I'm a little suspicious of the person who upped the video. That person refuses to say where the video came from, just that it 'appears to show' this and that. The comments all appear to be very carefully worded. Many of the uploader's responses seem to indicate that the point of the video is only to open minds and make people question reality.
Which is fine and all, but why doesn't he/she ever say where the video came from and under what circumstances?
Which is fine and all, but why doesn't he/she ever say where the video came from and under what circumstances?
dugdeep said:
I just reread my comment and realized it could have come across as criticizing people on this thread for speculating about whether or not the vid is faked. That's not what I meant, so sorry if it came across that way
I was more talking about debunkers who look at evidence that defies logic as "proof" that the phenomena can't exist and therefore must be fake.
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dugdeep said:dugdeep said:
I just reread my comment and realized it could have come across as criticizing people on this thread for speculating about whether or not the vid is faked. That's not what I meant, so sorry if it came across that way
I was more talking about debunkers who look at evidence that defies logic as "proof" that the phenomena can't exist and therefore must be fake.
That's ok Dugdeep. Actually, when I read your post I thought "hey, that's true, we don't know all the tricks a 4D flying ball of light can do"... meaning that I think you are right, we do have to consider all possibilities.
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Jason (ocean59) said:
Jason (ocean59) said:
Hi Jason, tonight I'll translate the video you posted, or at least the important parts, so you can know what the reporter is talking about.
One thing I can say is that, apart from the UFO video, what caught my attention was the noise that other people heard in the area. I think this video covers this issue a little bit. I'll also try to find the original reports I read some months ago.
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Here is a brief summary of what is said in the video posted by Jason (www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccq0Az-XUZc). I don't know how to put subtitles into youtube videos, so here is the information conveyed in the video:
- The incident occurred in the vicinities of the cities of Agudos, Pederneiras and Lencois on February 8th, 2011.
- People heard a loud noise, one person said it was like an explosion, other like something really having falling down. Another said it saw a very bright light. {At the time I read posts on a local forum and they match these descriptions. I remember reading one man from the military saying that he is used to bomb explosions and that that was not a bomb.}
- The local meteorology lab did not record anything unusual on that day.
- The alleged UFO video was recorded on the main highway that goes through the area.
- The guy who is interviewed and appears in front of a laptop says he received the video by email and then posted it online. They say no one knows who actually filmed the video.
- The guys at the end of the video are two special effects specialists who said the video is very well made but that is has some flaws that show it is actually computer generated graphics. The three things they list is: the UFO disappears when the truck pass by; at one point the cloud moves together with the UFO; and the UFO shines so bright that the clouds around it should have been lit up too.
- At the end the narrator says that altough the video is a fake, the reports of a loud noise in the area are still unexplained.
Assuming for a moment that the video is a fake, maybe the authors knew about the strange occurrence (loud noise and bright light) and tried to make a video to "match" that, although there is no explosion sound in the video. Just a thought.
Looking for more info, I found this news report (http://noticias.terra.com.br/popular/interna/0,,OI2463473-EI1141,00.html) that says that five UFO related sighting occurred near the area in less than 30 days. These news are from February 18, so right about the time of the incident related by the video above. The interesting thing is that in two of these five sightings, there was a circle of flattened crop where the lights were seen. The crops were flattened but not broken.
I actually saw a video in 2010 that showed something like that. A farmer saw somelights in the sky late at night and the next morning there was flattened crops in his field. However, it was not a crop circle, there was no design, just flattened crops.
By the way, it is also known (maybe not by the mainstream people, of course) that the Brazilian military has been opening up "secret" UFO files in recent years. But I think this is a project that the World Government is carrying out throughout the globe, right?
- The incident occurred in the vicinities of the cities of Agudos, Pederneiras and Lencois on February 8th, 2011.
- People heard a loud noise, one person said it was like an explosion, other like something really having falling down. Another said it saw a very bright light. {At the time I read posts on a local forum and they match these descriptions. I remember reading one man from the military saying that he is used to bomb explosions and that that was not a bomb.}
- The local meteorology lab did not record anything unusual on that day.
- The alleged UFO video was recorded on the main highway that goes through the area.
- The guy who is interviewed and appears in front of a laptop says he received the video by email and then posted it online. They say no one knows who actually filmed the video.
- The guys at the end of the video are two special effects specialists who said the video is very well made but that is has some flaws that show it is actually computer generated graphics. The three things they list is: the UFO disappears when the truck pass by; at one point the cloud moves together with the UFO; and the UFO shines so bright that the clouds around it should have been lit up too.
- At the end the narrator says that altough the video is a fake, the reports of a loud noise in the area are still unexplained.
Assuming for a moment that the video is a fake, maybe the authors knew about the strange occurrence (loud noise and bright light) and tried to make a video to "match" that, although there is no explosion sound in the video. Just a thought.
Looking for more info, I found this news report (http://noticias.terra.com.br/popular/interna/0,,OI2463473-EI1141,00.html) that says that five UFO related sighting occurred near the area in less than 30 days. These news are from February 18, so right about the time of the incident related by the video above. The interesting thing is that in two of these five sightings, there was a circle of flattened crop where the lights were seen. The crops were flattened but not broken.
I actually saw a video in 2010 that showed something like that. A farmer saw somelights in the sky late at night and the next morning there was flattened crops in his field. However, it was not a crop circle, there was no design, just flattened crops.
By the way, it is also known (maybe not by the mainstream people, of course) that the Brazilian military has been opening up "secret" UFO files in recent years. But I think this is a project that the World Government is carrying out throughout the globe, right?
Thanks for taking the time to translate that info, Courageous. Very interesting breakdown!
I still think the key is the 'anonymity' of the source of the video, I find that odd and questionable. That part about the light being so bright the clouds would be illuminated also makes sense.
Perhaps it is standard disinfo - taking an event that actually happened, and building upon it with this possibly faked video? Since something happened, it would give any video that emerges a little more ground to stand on.
I still think the key is the 'anonymity' of the source of the video, I find that odd and questionable. That part about the light being so bright the clouds would be illuminated also makes sense.
Perhaps it is standard disinfo - taking an event that actually happened, and building upon it with this possibly faked video? Since something happened, it would give any video that emerges a little more ground to stand on.
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