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luke wilson:
Kenya: Second explosion in Nairobi
_http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/24/world/africa/kenya-nightclub-attack/?hpt=wo_c2
--- Quote ---[...]The explosions came two days after the U.S. Embassy in Kenya warned it had credible information of an imminent terror attack. The embassy did not offer details on who might carry out such an attack but said it had limited official U.S. government visits and urged citizens to consider deferring travel to Kenya.
The attack was likely to target places that foreigners congregate in Kenya, including malls and night clubs, the embassy said.
Kenya has been on edge since it sent troops across the border into Somalia to pursue militants with Al-Shabaab, an Islamist group that the United States and other countries consider a terrorist organization. Kenya sent troops into Somalia after the recent abductions of tourists and aid workers in Kenya. It blames the abductions on Al-Shabaab, which has denied involvement.
Al-Shabaab has threatened to attack Kenya if it does not withdraw its forces from Somalia.[...]
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_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15435663
--- Quote ---A blast has gone off at a bus stop in Kenya's capital, Nairobi, killing at least one person, police say.
An earlier grenade attack on a bar in the city wounded 12 people.
The attacks happened two days after the US embassy in Kenya warned that an attack by Islamist militants from neighbouring Somalia was imminent.
But Kenyan Police Commissioner Matthew Iteere said there was no evidence linking the nightclub attack to the militants from the al-Shabab group.
The Kenyan government sent troops to Somalia more than a week ago to pursue the militants after accusing them of being behind a spate of abductions on its territory.
Al-Shabab, which is linked to al-Qaeda and controls much of southern and central Somalia, denies involvement in the kidnappings but has warned of reprisals if Kenyan troops do not withdraw from Somalia.
Grenade
Police said the explosion on Monday evening occurred at the OTC bus terminal in downtown Nairobi, which is usually a busy part of the city.
A victim of the first explosion in Kenya's capital, Nairobi, on 24 October 2011 waits in the emergency wing of Kenyatta National Hospital Witnesses said a man threw a grenade into the nightclub and fled the scene overnight
Kenya's Red Cross said on its Twitter feed that eight casualties had been rushed to Kenyatta National Hospital.
The BBC's Odhiambho Joseph in Nairobi says 18 people were wounded in total.
Eyewitnesses told the BBC that the blast happened after a hand grenade was thrown at a moving matatu minibus taxis which bounced back and exploded where passengers were waiting for transport.
In the early hours of Monday morning a man threw a grenade into the Mwauras nightclub and fled the scene, witnesses said. No-one has claimed responsibility for the attack.
Our reporter says the attacks have prompted the authorities to ban fireworks for this week's Hindu festival of Diwali.
Last December three people died during a grenade attack at a bus in Nairobi. It was never clear who was behind it.
Correspondents say that although both attacks were small, they will nevertheless cause a great deal of anxiety in Kenya.
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Kenyan Military heavily involved in Somalia..
_http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Kenyan+forces+well+trained+for+operation+/-/440808/1261798/-/stc9vnz/-/index.html
--- Quote ---[....]Kenyan military training is heavily based on the British and American systems and is therefore world class.[....]
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_http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Voices+from+combat+front+line+/-/1056/1261270/-/miedqqz/-/index.html
--- Quote ---[...]Abdi Kadir Ali could not tolerate the air strikes and gun shots Kenyan defence forces have been directing at Salagle Town of Lower Juba in Somalia.
“The warplanes are covering the skies and because of the sounds of missiles landing on the ground and the scaring picture of the machines hovering above us, we cannot sleep. So we decided to cross the border into refugee camps in Kenya,” Mr Ali, who was accompanied by his wife and their newly born baby, told reporters at Abdi Sugow cutline near the Kenya-Somalia border.[...]
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The country is in bed with the biggest bullies walking this planet... Well either that or get bombed back to nowhere I guess.
It should be noted that Kenya has a huge somalian population and so It should be interesting to see how this affects the relationship between the somalian and non-somalian natives of the country.
luke wilson:
France to support Kenya's incursion into Somalia (French? what are french doing in Kenya? this is a former british colony)
_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15446110
Historic by all accounts. The kenyan military has never attacked another country or involved in any sort of action apart from UN PeaceKeeping. Now it is spearheading the incursion into somalia with troops on the ground with western forces "providing support"...
Libya is done now it is time to move afield!
_http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27310
--- Quote ---In the wake of NATO's "humanitarian" R2P intervention in Libya, which is by no means over, the Pentagon has chosen to launch two more "unnoticed" wars in the African continent: Somalia and Uganda.[...]
At most, Washington and Paris are saying that they are offering vague, logistical support. The Financial Times quotes Scott Gration, the US ambassador to Kenya, saying: “We are talking with the Kenyans right now to figure out where they need help.”
In a telling remark indicating self-censorship by the newspaper, the Financial Times noted without further questioning that Gration “did not comment on reports of a series of US drone attacks across southern Somalia in the months since June”.
However, such denials are contradicted by Kenyan and pro-Western Somali military officials who clearly state that American and French forces have bombed Somali civilian centres, including Afmadow, Kismayu and Kadhaa, which have resulted in hundreds of deaths. Kenyan Major Emmanuel Chirchir referring to US drone attacks and French naval bombardment said: “Everybody is in theatre… We know about the strikes. They are complementary.”
On 16 October, Kenya appeared to make a “surprise” invasion of neighbouring Somalia by land, sea and air forces. But 10 days later, with increasing bombardment of towns in Somalia’s southern region, reports of hundreds of civilian casualties and large-scale displacement of people, it is becoming clear that this is no “hot pursuit” cross-border swoop against kidnappers allegedly belonging to the Al Shabab Islamist insurgency – but rather a full-scale war. [...]
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Edit: Wrong link.
bngenoh:
Yeah, it seems the goverment is obeying orders like a "good dog". Sending troops to another country while you can't even feed, clothe, and provide health care to all your peoples.
They should know that what goes around comes around.
luke wilson:
--- Quote from: bngenoh on October 26, 2011, 09:18:35 PM ---Yeah, it seems the goverment is obeying orders like a "good dog". Sending troops to another country while you can't even feed, clothe, and provide health care to all your peoples.
They should know that what goes around comes around.
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I hate to say this but the Kenyan government was bought and paid for years ago...
I have been watching some interviews of normal kenyans on the streets talking about this incursion and most of them are spewing the same crap westerners say "National security bla bla bla"(the same manipulations are being used to garner public support). There is also some sectarianism coming to the foreground with some kenyans asking for 'all somalians to be deported back to there country'. The president aswell gave a speech where he was pretty much reading off a hymn sheet you would think he was a western leader... However, in East Africa the country has done well economically and experienced massive growth.
There was also no parliamentary vote or oversight with this incursion and kenya is big on parliament doing its thing... Not really a place for open dictators. (More like veiled ones)
From the same link..
--- Quote ---Many Kenyans have deep misgivings about their government’s nubile proxy military role. The country is also at risk of famine and its military capability is hitherto untested. Kenyans have noted the way their government launched into Somalia – with which they share much common tribal ancestry – without any public discussion (suggesting orders were taken from Washington and Paris). And they fear that their country could become involved in a bloody regional quagmire that will take human suffering in an already suffering region to untold levels of misery.
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Funny they mention famine, the troop advancement was halted by very 'heavy rains'.
bngenoh:
--- Quote from: luke wilson on October 26, 2011, 09:31:15 PM ---I hate to say this but the Kenyan government was bought and paid for years ago...
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Very true that it was bought and paid for years ago
--- Quote ---I have been watching some interviews of normal kenyans on the streets talking about this incursion and most of them are spewing the same crap westerners say "National security bla bla bla"(the same manipulations are being used to garner public support). There is also some sectarianism coming to the foreground with some kenyans asking for 'all somalians to be deported back to there country'. The president aswell gave a speech where he was pretty much reading off a hymn sheet you would think he was a western leader... However, in East Africa the country has done well economically and experienced massive growth.
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i guess compared to it's neighbours it has experienced massive growth, but alot of that is going to the already wealthy which is not suprising, since they are busy mimicking anything "Western."
--- Quote ---There was also no parliamentary vote or oversight with this incursion and kenya is big on parliament doing its thing... Not really a place for open dictators. (More like veiled ones)
From the same link..
--- Quote ---Many Kenyans have deep misgivings about their government’s nubile proxy military role. The country is also at risk of famine and its military capability is hitherto untested. Kenyans have noted the way their government launched into Somalia – with which they share much common tribal ancestry – without any public discussion (suggesting orders were taken from Washington and Paris). And they fear that their country could become involved in a bloody regional quagmire that will take human suffering in an already suffering region to untold levels of misery.
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How soon we forget ourselves
--- Quote ---Funny they mention famine, the troop advancement was halted by very 'heavy rains'.
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AHH, good ol mama nature
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