Author Topic: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet  (Read 3513 times)

Offline stellar

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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2011, 01:14:04 PM »
You gain nothing by being hand-fed answers like giving candy to children.
Thank you Nienna Eluch for your reply.
I'm sure not waiting for hand-fed answers!
Understanding is what matters, and I feel the urge to keep Working to understand that information...




But can you see, that you were asking or exactly that here when the hint was given by Laura, but that you wanted a shortcut from the 'work" that hint suggested?


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Would anybody else be able to add a few hints about my remarks?Because it takes some time to read everything and assimilate it!And I guess the answers might be useful for those who didn't read everything yet...

Well, I didn't look for a shortcut but only for clarification. Because of a few arguments in this thread which seemed to me kind of shortcuts themselves.
Now, if this clarification is best done through learning the C's material, because of its basic nature or so, let's go...
Does this help to clarify your questions:

A considerate and time/energy saving option is to use the search button at the top of this page. This will lead to posts which discuss your topic of interest. Once you have searched through them and your question is not answered, then you post and share your thoughts/questions.

This is all outlined in the Newbies section on the forum. Please reread it to familiarise yourself better and in that way show more external consideration for all the work that has already been done by the forum mods/members.We would really appreciate it.

Read the recommended list of books. The C's transcripts can too easily be taken out of context without this prior knowledge.
Oh, and have fun learning. :)




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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2011, 02:29:48 PM »
Hi Esote,

From my experience, there are a few tools I have learned to use reading this forum.
Some are:
1) A Dictionary.
2) The forum search function.
3) http://cassiopaea.org/
4) http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php

'Tis good asking others to clarify their thoughts, but definitions/concepts are to be learned. After doing research and still having difficulty understanding a definitions/concept, the ask. We are here for discussion.
 :) :) :)

edit:  addendum - And here is the link I found years ago that introduced me into this Work...
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/site_map_qfg.htm
« Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 02:52:38 PM by Al Today »

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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2011, 10:48:51 PM »
Thank you stellar and Al Today for your answers.
I'll be back in a few years (decades?), once I got through understanding all the knowledge in the C's material...
(Kidding time) :bye:  ;)
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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2011, 02:10:00 AM »
Well, I'd like to have a better understanding with this thread:

I don't really hold to the statement that "Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet". As far as I can see, there are many actions here and there, mainly on small scales, but still quite a lot of people are doing something, giving a helping hand to altruistic projects, seeking truths (what about this forum?)...

Sure we need to get prepared to whatever comes and to know how our brain works. But is not trying to save oneself  mostly kind of a selfish point of view?

I don't know about any non-abusive educational systems.  But anywhere there are people who get beyond "not knowing anything different"...

Comments welcomed
Esote, have you read 1) Amazing Grace; 2) The Wave; 3) High Strangeness??  All of them in their entirety?

How about the recommended reading list in the Books section of the forum?  How many of those can you tick off the list?

The point is, until you are up to speed, don't jump into the deep end of the pool.
Would anybody else be able to add a few hints about my remarks?
Because it takes some time to read everything and assimilate it!
And I guess the answers might be useful for those who didn't read everything yet...

Hi Esote. Are you reading topic titles too literally? Could a majority of people think like this topic title suggests? If so, could it be possible for those individuals to be a wider target audience for this thread for purposes of discussing "normalcy bias" as a possible active factor in people's daily life?

To me, "normalcy bias" seems to be suggested here as one possible problem that could be preventing the implementation of solutions for improving all our life contexts. It makes sense to me, but so does the image of a frog in a pot of water having heat slowly turned up while he's distracted by all his toys and gadgets.  :)

Hope that helps.

It seems, from all the studies that are done, that an elevated mood - one of happy expectation of the possibility of adventure - is the greatest protection against illness. Perhaps it is also the one that makes one "inedible" to the Matrix? -Laura

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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2011, 11:01:54 AM »
Thank you Buddy, your answer allows me to see that there is some sort of subtleness in this forum that I was missing.
I like your image of the frog, which is a way of understanding that we must step out from our comfort zone if we want to evolve...
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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2013, 02:47:27 AM »
Please consider the following:  Operation Zeus.
I have been trying and failing to get executive action  brought to a theory of mine which, in a nutshell, proposes a means of disabling a hurricane.
 Mr McRaney's splendid article certainly has opened my eyes as to the psychological issues which are attending this abyss of inertia.
Now that the twisters are literally off the scale, there may be a possibility that this method might be tested on them???
Basically the theory goes that a mach projectile could use its vacuum 'tail' to literally 'pop' the pressure system by shooting through the eye of the off-scale sized twister Theoretically, a symphony of Boyle's Law of air pressure should result, (whatever that might entail....) The end result would quite probably be an ex- tornado. Good for hurricanes too. If only we could test it without bumping into other agendas......
More at Operation Zeus, which can be found in the pdf section on the search page of _www.orbitalcartography.com
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Re: Why Nobody is Doing Anything About the State of the Planet
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2013, 09:00:21 AM »
Thanks for bringing this thread up. Interesting bit about normalcy bias as I am seeing these quite a bit, even in myself.

Just a few days ago, I was temp-working at the local university and was browsing through its main library on the top floor before going in for work. It's a Final Examination week and the library was filled with students. Suddenly, there was a fire alarm going off - nobody was told that this was to be a drill, not even the employees. No one made a move or looked around for other people to leave (there were some students still glued to the computers or their iPods). The alarms were being ignored. As I walk to the stairs, I saw one student waiting for the elevator and I told him to take the stairs (I was wearing "Staff" t-shirt), so he walk over to the stairs and I followed. Some students are still on the top floor when I left the building but they later left when the employees went up there to check the floors to escort the students out.

Huh. I have a similar example (also from a library) and have been wondering a few days about it. What happened was basically that a disheveled man came in and started talking loudly - at first I thought he was phoning (in a foreign language, sounded like Russian). The public library is quite large and mostly frequented by students who sit in long rows at tables, mostly in front of computers. There is no staff in the Reading Room itself. The loud voice was extremely bothering and I must admit that my first thoughts were: "I am not going to do anything, because: 1. He will soon stop by himself  2. Staff will come 3. Somebody else will address it." For the next five minutes nothing happened. The uncanny thing was that Nobody in the Reading Room even STIRRED, like turning their heads, drawing faces, looking at each other or in the direction of the noise. Then a young man got up and went to the source of the noise (from my place I couldn't see the man) and came back. Nothing happened after that, the voice went on and on.

I finally got up myself, approached the man and saw that he was talking with himself, not phoning. I politely told him that his talking was disturbing the readers, could he please stop? He looked at me in a wild way and started a verbal attack in Russian, so I fled and went to the Staff Room. Obviously I was the first reporting this, because the librarian said that he had to inform security, he couldn't do it by himself. I went back to my seat, on the way met the young man from before and told him that I had informed staff. It took another ten minutes for security to arrive, talk to the man and escort him out.

Sorry for this long story, but it made me think for a couple of days. Nobody in the room (about 40 people of all age groups), except me and the young man, had even LOOKED UP. It was like sitting in a room with machines with blank dead stares. I am in this library quite often - several times a week for many hours) and had never encountered the man - one possible idea being that people there were used to him and knew that security would eventually come and take him out. Another idea - everyone is terribly inner considering and afraid to ask him to stop - falls to pieces, too - it would have been easy just to inform Staff....but nobody even stirred or looked into the direction of the voice.

Another thread here is called:"Honestly, have you ever seen a ghost?" I think I did see a few ... and it was scary.

Emmeya