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Spirit Releasement Therapy
Laura:
--- Quote from: David Topi on May 03, 2012, 07:42:20 AM ---Thank you both, Laura and Approaching Infinity.
Yes, it seems so and it is kind of interesting (to me at least) to be able to "classify" these kind of entities according to their "origin", even generally speaking.
In the recent past I've read about astral projection and astral travel, and never understood quite well "where" those planes "belonged to" in the global order of "evolutionary levels" (=densities), but including them as the "inner planes" of our 3D level makes most sense to me, at least to fit them into the mental picture of the bigger reality we occupy.
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It's kind of problematic too, because when I realized that such planes are still, in a sense, 3D, that means that things like remote viewing, psychic perceptions, and a whole host of things we have thought were reliable for millennia may not be so reliable after all since they only allow us to access lateral realities rather than vertical ones (for lack of a better term).
But then, I had that in mind when undertaking the Cs experiment, that one must have intent and patience and more than one receiver so as to make the equivalent of a higher level being, though I didn't know the word "density" then, in order to penetrate through and out and above such levels.
Akar:
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But then, I had that in mind when undertaking the Cs experiment, that one must have intent and patience and more than one receiver so as to make the equivalent of a higher level being, though I didn't know the word "density" then, in order to penetrate through and out and above such levels.
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That makes complete sense, but I thought that it was because you are channeling energy from 6th density, but I think (just think) that if you would be channeling a 4D STO via the ouija, don't you think you could do it alone and have the same results (in terms of the process, not the knowledge transmitted) ? I mean, the energy of a density above us, maybe with one receiver could be enough or not even that?
Akar:
--- Quote ---It's kind of problematic too, because when I realized that such planes are still, in a sense, 3D, that means that things like remote viewing, psychic perceptions, and a whole host of things we have thought were reliable for millennia may not be so reliable after all since they only allow us to access lateral realities rather than vertical ones (for lack of a better term).
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And somehow I still think that, on the other hand, those "abilities" and tools (remote viewing, etc), even if they do not serve to get info from higher sources (vertical), still make their way as good tools into our normal 3D reality and can be useful for the individuals having them or using them to help others, when properly done/used.
People investigating, writing and sharing what they learn about the parallel realities still help open the point of view of many others, focused completely in the most material of the 3D levels (the one we all share). The problem is finding someone not feeding just illusions and disinfo, but the closest thing to a real "investigation" about what those realities are, etc.
Probably having them, or developing them or asking help from those who have those abilities to perceive this expanded "access" to our 3D level, is a stepping stone into understanding that there is more than the physical world we see, which can be a huge step for some people in their learning cycle. This is probably obvious for everyone in the forum, but I can say that for instance, to my mother, learning about this when my father passed away was not only a stepping stone, but a jump of a few kilometers in her understanding of the world. :-)
seek10:
--- Quote from: Laura on May 03, 2012, 12:07:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Topi on May 03, 2012, 07:42:20 AM ---Thank you both, Laura and Approaching Infinity.
Yes, it seems so and it is kind of interesting (to me at least) to be able to "classify" these kind of entities according to their "origin", even generally speaking.
In the recent past I've read about astral projection and astral travel, and never understood quite well "where" those planes "belonged to" in the global order of "evolutionary levels" (=densities), but including them as the "inner planes" of our 3D level makes most sense to me, at least to fit them into the mental picture of the bigger reality we occupy.
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It's kind of problematic too, because when I realized that such planes are still, in a sense, 3D, that means that things like remote viewing, psychic perceptions, and a whole host of things we have thought were reliable for millennia may not be so reliable after all since they only allow us to access lateral realities rather than vertical ones (for lack of a better term).
But then, I had that in mind when undertaking the Cs experiment, that one must have intent and patience and more than one receiver so as to make the equivalent of a higher level being, though I didn't know the word "density" then, in order to penetrate through and out and above such levels.
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I have the similar thoughts yesterday after reading all astral planes can be a part of 3D parallel world. The so called yogi's dematerialize and materializing ( is this correct or not is different issue, thinking some minute truth in it ) , all that stuff is simple parallel dimensions. so Hopeless the entire gamut of spirituality for the entire cycle.
--- Quote ---Q: (L) From what realm did this meditated information
issue?
A: The realm of the subconscious mind.
Q: (L) Are any of the Vedas information that was given to
man by extra-terrestrials?
A: Not as you would define it.
Q: (L) From what types of beings, or what level of density
did this information issue from?
A: Third.
Q: (L) Can you give us anything more on that in a general
sense?
A: If you ask.
Q: (L) What is the percentage of accuracy of the information
given in the Vedas? Overall?
A: Accurate at what level?
Q: (L) Third Density.
A: Accurate to what extent and in what way?
Q: (L) Well, in a general sense, as a way of living one's life
and perceiving the universe.
A: That's an extremely difficult question to answer as
accuracy in determining such things as perceiving the
universe and living one's life is entirely open to interpretation
as anyone can resolve accuracy by relating to the parallel
universe which is appropriate for the information given. And,
as we have stated in the past, it is possible to create parallel
universes through thought energy, and once they are created
naturally, they correspond naturally to the interpretation
given for them.
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hiker:
Back in the day, having read Near Death Experience -literature, I had the impression that if the consciousness survives bodily death, the transition would go "by the book" for everybody: going to the light, life review, etc.
Later, familiarizing myself with the cassiopaea- and related material, I was starting to get the idea that things might not be as simple.
I recently finished "Life Between Life", "The Unquiet Dead" and Richard Matheson's "What Dreams May Come", and also re-read this thread. It has been a relevant recap for deeper understanding.
(Side note: "What Dreams May Come" is an account of afterlife written in form of fiction. In the end of the book there's a bibliography of several dozen books, including Owen's "The Life Beyond the Veil", that Matheson used as a source for the story. Very readable, describes very well the confusion one might have after death, if misinformed about the scenario.)
It's troubling to think that if a potentially souled person is under religious, materialistic, etc. propaganda and has no inkling of the way things might proceed after death, s/he will be abashed and probably get "lost", potentially becoming a "possessor", etc. Being uninformed in other areas and having a messed up machine would surely complicate the transition as well.
Some posts that I found to be elucidating:
--- Quote from: foofighter on November 06, 2008, 08:22:59 AM ---it seems clear that the soul (if a person has one, like Anart said: complex issue) goes to a "zone" in 5D to which it most resonates. If the person had a dark life, or was constantly abused and used, he/she will go to a zone where that situation continues. Not because of some judgment, or anything like that, but simply because that's where he/she would fit best. This is one of the reasons you will want to focus on cleaning the machine while alive, because when you die the state you were in will pretty much decide your starting point (IF you have a soul that will continue in the first place).
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--- Quote from: truth seeker on April 24, 2011, 12:09:11 PM ---I think one must be doing work on themselves (intake of knowledge) in addition to diet and ee. It's these three things that would sustain the body, mind, spirit and would provide protection from any entities from attaching or reattaching. In other words, we are removing the hooks, the roots of the problem as opposed to the symptom. Hope that makes sense. :)
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--- Quote from: Laura on April 27, 2012, 10:34:34 AM ---Bottom line is this: if you change your FRV, whatever attached to a former FRV can't hang around. Things that can do that include acquiring knowledge, awareness, changing your habitual ways of thinking and reacting, changing elements in your life including diet, etc.
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Next delving into "The Haunted Mind" and "30 Years Among the Dead". Maybe better to leave "Hostage to the Devil" for a later stage, as it appears to be some heavy duty reading!
--- Quote from: Laura on March 08, 2011, 11:32:10 PM ---This is not light reading. I don't recommend it to anyone who lacks really good spiritual defenses which means a LOT of knowledge.
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