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dreamrider:
Hi,

I am really interested in joining the Fellowship, but I was wondering if someone could explain one of the goals listed below.

To provide a framework whereby PaleoChristian communities of various types can form and thrive

This is the first time I have met a group of people whose ideals resonate with me, it has been quite humbling to feel such a sense of 'belonging', which I have never felt before in my life, even though I have had a happy family life, relatively speaking! I understand why the forum is essential for 'networking' and getting objective responses by those who are experienced to give it, but my question really pertains to communities. Do you mean virtual or real life?

I have felt for some time that the ideal of living in a practical sense in a 'community' of sorts, whilst retaining my own personal space, is important (and I have been making practical steps toward this for myself and children) - but who one shares this community living with is obviously absolutely crucial.

Thanks for any help  :)

Gawan:

--- Quote from: dreamrider on February 21, 2012, 01:26:17 PM ---Hi,

I am really interested in joining the Fellowship, but I was wondering if someone could explain one of the goals listed below.

To provide a framework whereby PaleoChristian communities of various types can form and thrive

This is the first time I have met a group of people whose ideals resonate with me, it has been quite humbling to feel such a sense of 'belonging', which I have never felt before in my life, even though I have had a happy family life, relatively speaking! I understand why the forum is essential for 'networking' and getting objective responses by those who are experienced to give it, but my question really pertains to communities. Do you mean virtual or real life?

I have felt for some time that the ideal of living in a practical sense in a 'community' of sorts, whilst retaining my own personal space, is important (and I have been making practical steps toward this for myself and children) - but who one shares this community living with is obviously absolutely crucial.

Thanks for any help  :)



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Hi Dreamrider,

imo the emphasising part is on can and at a current state is this online-network the community of the fellowship and whoever likes to work on oneself.
 
Because out of experience many bad things happened when members, be it fellowship members or forum members met (well, over and over again), simply because of negative feedback loops and feeding on each other. Two or three people living together cannot replace an entire network and there always will be blind spots. ;) This may change in the future, but is definitely not a goal of the fellowship at this point as far as I can tell.

I hope this helps a bit.

dreamrider:
Thanks Gawan,

I feel I understand what you are saying, and please clarify if it isnt  :)

Pre-fall (when folk were STO) we could and did live in real life communities. As we are currently STS (a few with potential to be STO candidates) we cannot really live in such communities, in order to do the necessary Work to possibly achieve STO candidate status. I guess therefore, there are such small groups within the Fellowship , but they are the exception at the moment.

It's abit of a paradox - I am letting go of family and friends, feeling alone yet not lonely; but feel such a sense of belonging with the Fellowship, folk with whom I cannot (at least as yet) live with in a real life community, but only communicate with when I get the opportunity to go online (and while there is electricity and internet access).

I am utilizing what small amount of knowledge I do have at the moment, to make practical changes in terms of living arrangements, being as self sufficient as I can etc etc, but accept that I will invariably have to go it alone in a practical sense, and thats ok  :)

Nienna:

--- Quote from: dreamrider on February 23, 2012, 07:36:41 PM ---Thanks Gawan,

I feel I understand what you are saying, and please clarify if it isnt  :)

Pre-fall (when folk were STO) we could and did live in real life communities. As we are currently STS (a few with potential to be STO candidates) we cannot really live in such communities, in order to do the necessary Work to possibly achieve STO candidate status. I guess therefore, there are such small groups within the Fellowship , but they are the exception at the moment.

It's abit of a paradox - I am letting go of family and friends, feeling alone yet not lonely; but feel such a sense of belonging with the Fellowship, folk with whom I cannot (at least as yet) live with in a real life community, but only communicate with when I get the opportunity to go online (and while there is electricity and internet access).

I am utilizing what small amount of knowledge I do have at the moment, to make practical changes in terms of living arrangements, being as self sufficient as I can etc etc, but accept that I will invariably have to go it alone in a practical sense, and thats ok  :)

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Why are you letting go of family and friends?

Part of what we do here on this forum is the Work - which is basically, the 4th Way.  In order to do the Work, you work on your programs that run you like a machine.  In order to see these programs is to interact with family and friends and to network with like-minded people who are also doing the Work.  Your family and friends allow you to utilize external consideration and to form a strategic enclosure.

If you have friends or family who are doing things such as going on drinking binges, using recreational drugs, or are malicious and a drain on you, then distancing yourself from them is for your own health.  But we would never tell you to let go of family and friends.

Have you read Ouspensky's In Search of the Miraculous?

Gawan:
As Nienna wrote, just in some other words, the work cannot happen in a vacuum and Ouspensky wrote also about this in his book, when I remember it correctly, so it is a highly recommended book if you are new to the concept of the work.

Also this page could eventually help out if you are stumbling over words and terms: Cassiopedia


--- Quote from: excerpt 4th way ---The 4th Way differs from these in that it seeks to simultaneously develop all three sides and to do so in the environment of ordinary life, whereas the three first ways [the way of the monk (feelings), the fakir (body) and yogi (mind)] all require from the beginning a complete abandoning of daily life and a seclusion into a monastic environment. The 4th Way is sometimes therefore called the way of the 'sly man.' All the 4 ways may lead to the same understandings and may bring their practitioner from the 'outer circle' of humanity to the 'exoteric' and later 'mesoteric' and 'esoteric' circles .

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And what the C's wrote some time ago:


--- Quote ---It's not where you are, it's who you are and what you see.
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