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Dr. Jack Kruse - Neurosurgeon
dugdeep:
T.S. Wiley talked about switching back and forth between sugar and fat burning on a seasonal basis, too. She went so far as to say that people would be ketogenic all winter and then eat enough fruit to make them insulin resistant in the summer, switching back to meat in the winter and fall. Dr. Jack Kruse said something similar in the podcast, which actually made me think maybe he got it from Wiley.
I don't plan on mimmicking it, though. I think a lot of Wiley's stuff is pure speculation. It seems to me a lot of people speculating about the paleo diet assume that if something was around, our ancestors must have eaten it. That may not be the case, however, particularly with fruit which likely would have made our ketogenic fat-adapted ancestors rather uncomfortable.
Renaissance:
--- Quote from: dugdeep on March 12, 2012, 10:09:43 PM ---T.S. Wiley talked about switching back and forth between sugar and fat burning on a seasonal basis, too. She went so far as to say that people would be ketogenic all winter and then eat enough fruit to make them insulin resistant in the summer, switching back to meat in the winter and fall. Dr. Jack Kruse said something similar in the podcast, which actually made me think maybe he got it from Wiley.
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Kruse has talked about how he initially got interested in all this research was from reading some papers and two books, one of which was Sex Lies and Menopause, so I bet it is the case that he did get that info from Wiley.
Psyche:
--- Quote from: SeekinTruth on March 12, 2012, 07:39:32 PM ---Ahh, thanks truth seeker, I wasn't able to make out "biohacks" in the podcast (the audio wasn't great).
Psyche, I did get the gist of what you wrote from browsing through his site. The thing I'm questioning is: is it good to go through the switch of metabolism -- fat burning to sugar burning and back every year? You have to get knocked out of ketosis if you go up to 200 to 300 grams of carbs, right. It's probably individual, but I'm thinking the upper level to stay in ketosis will be somewhere in the range of 50 to 70 grams of carbs.
Anyway, maybe I'm missing something important like when you've been doing it for a long enough time, it's not a big deal to switch metabolism back and forth in terms of how long it takes to adapt/adjust?
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In his posts on Thermogenesis written in February and March of this year, he doesn't encourage switching back and forth between seasons which is like gorging before winter hibernation kind of thing but since we don't hibernate and expose ourselves to the crude winter, we end up creating havoc in our health. He emphasized the no safe starches thing, criticizing paleo bloggers that encourage starches and also goes into some length explaining how athletes will see great results if only they were able to stick to ketosis for a long enough period that will allow for adaptation. He reports "huge results" in athletes who have been ketoadapted for 24-36 consecutive months.
dugdeep:
--- Quote from: Shane on March 12, 2012, 10:55:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: dugdeep on March 12, 2012, 10:09:43 PM ---T.S. Wiley talked about switching back and forth between sugar and fat burning on a seasonal basis, too. She went so far as to say that people would be ketogenic all winter and then eat enough fruit to make them insulin resistant in the summer, switching back to meat in the winter and fall. Dr. Jack Kruse said something similar in the podcast, which actually made me think maybe he got it from Wiley.
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Kruse has talked about how he initially got interested in all this research was from reading some papers and two books, one of which was Sex Lies and Menopause, so I bet it is the case that he did get that info from Wiley.
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Iiiiiiinteresting. I only heard him mention the other book, which I think is called The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari, or something along those lines. Thanks for confirming that, Shane!
SeekinTruth:
Yeah, he mentioned Sex, Lies and Menopause either on the Jimmy Moore Living La Vida Low Carb podcast or in his "Holy Trinity" blog post, maybe both.
Thanks for the clarification, Psyche. I'm looking forward to committing some time going back to his site and reading all his material. I need to catch up reading SOTT a bit because I've fallen behind again.
So I've been keto adapted for about a year -- I started in Feb 2011 and figure it took a few weeks to go into and stay in ketosis. Maybe after 24-36 months, we're all going to have another bump up in energy and stamina? I'm going to ease into experimenting with Dr. Kruse's cold adaptation protocol too. Let's see how many "supermen and superwomen" (as he puts it) develop out of these experiments. :)
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