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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #285 on: May 11, 2012, 07:26:57 PM »
Quote from: Approaching Infinity on May 11, 2012, 04:49:11 AM
Even from only 2 sessions so far, I've noticed that the soreness in my lower back and right calf is much reduced. (I spent this last Saturday doing highway cleanup with my martial arts club for 8 hours, which left me feeling pretty sore.) I'll report more as it goes, and close just be saying that I'm looking forward to the next freeze!  :cool:

Thank you for sharing your experience, AI. And it's great that you felt immediate results. It doesn't sound so bad after all  :shock: ;D
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #286 on: May 12, 2012, 02:25:03 AM »
Day #2 update: First session this morning seemed extra cold (as in, colder than the two yesterday!). They said sometimes it's like that, and it might have something to do with the body's own rhythms, and where you happen to catch it when doing the treatment. The second treatment of the day was much easier, and I felt extra refreshed after it.

Only other noticeable thing from today: On the drive to the facility I noticed I had a paper cut on one of my fingers that was really stinging. The cold took care of that! Except for the visible, paper-sliced gash visible on my left index finger, I can't even tell it's there.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #287 on: May 12, 2012, 09:15:59 AM »
It's been a month since our series and my low back is still holding up.  I'm not eating anything to inflame myself, but I do feel more "integrity" in my erector muscles where I've long had issues.  I AM getting myself psyched up for the cold showers... just a few more days...
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #288 on: May 12, 2012, 10:43:35 AM »
Quote from: Laura on May 12, 2012, 09:15:59 AM
It's been a month since our series and my low back is still holding up.  I'm not eating anything to inflame myself, but I do feel more "integrity" in my erector muscles where I've long had issues.  I AM getting myself psyched up for the cold showers... just a few more days...

fwiw just remember to go easy - take a coolish/luke warm shower then have a 30 second blast of cold at the end (or however long you can stand). Doesn't have to be very cold, just enough to make you gasp a little. I always stick the back of my head in the cold stream first, then my face, then psyche myself up with a few rapid breaths and step in - and don't stop moving.
Although this has changed greatly, I can stand in the cold stream of water now without needing to move - and as long as my mind is in the right place it creates a massive feeling of euphoria/is deeply relaxing and I'll leave the shower yawning (same relaxed state as pipe breathing), alert and happy.
At least this is my observation.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #289 on: May 12, 2012, 10:59:45 AM »
I agree building up to cold showers is the way to go. Step by step, you can make it colder from the beginning and then last few minutes just the cold water on after a while when you feel you can handle it. I'm starting colder and staying with only cold water about a minute extra each time. Then wait several minutes in the tub before putting on my bathrobe. It really does start to feel great after a while.

One strange thing I notices in the last couple of weeks is that when I'm taking the cold showers, and the water is considerably colder than body temperature, when the cold water hits my feet, it feels like it's warm. Where everywhere else on my body, it feels cold. I don't know why that might be. It also seems it feels coldest on my back when I have just the cold water running.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #290 on: May 12, 2012, 11:07:02 AM »
Quote from: SeekinTruth on May 12, 2012, 10:59:45 AM
One strange thing I notices in the last couple of weeks is that when I'm taking the cold showers, and the water is considerably colder than body temperature, when the cold water hits my feet, it feels like it's warm. Where everywhere else on my body, it feels cold. I don't know why that might be. It also seems it feels coldest on my back when I have just the cold water running.

I remember doing a temperature experiment in science class at school. One hand was placed in hat water and the other in cold - both hands where then put in warm water. The hand that was in hot water felt it as cold, the hand that was in cold water felt it as hot - so your feet are probably colder than the rest of your body, hence you feel it as warm. :)
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #291 on: May 12, 2012, 11:18:47 AM »
That could be it, RedFox. One of those paradoxes, I guess.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #292 on: May 12, 2012, 04:09:48 PM »
Quote from: RedFox on May 12, 2012, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: SeekinTruth on May 12, 2012, 10:59:45 AM
One strange thing I notices in the last couple of weeks is that when I'm taking the cold showers, and the water is considerably colder than body temperature, when the cold water hits my feet, it feels like it's warm. Where everywhere else on my body, it feels cold. I don't know why that might be. It also seems it feels coldest on my back when I have just the cold water running.

I remember doing a temperature experiment in science class at school. One hand was placed in hat water and the other in cold - both hands where then put in warm water. The hand that was in hot water felt it as cold, the hand that was in cold water felt it as hot - so your feet are probably colder than the rest of your body, hence you feel it as warm. :)
That is also a probable explanation as to why the face cloth I use to shower with, now that I have transitioned to fully cold showers, feels very warm, approaching hot.

Btw, has anyone else noted that conscious awareness seems more "solid," as in more unified I guess, being able to spot and analyze anything and everything if one so chooses?
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #293 on: May 12, 2012, 11:08:29 PM »
I have to admit that I failed and went back to warm showers and baths again  :rolleyes:
but I'll try again  ;D
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #294 on: May 12, 2012, 11:27:58 PM »
Quote from: bngenoh on May 12, 2012, 04:09:48 PM

Btw, has anyone else noted that conscious awareness seems more "solid," as in more unified I guess, being able to spot and analyze anything and everything if one so chooses?

That's quite the statement, bngenoh.   ;)  How can you know that you can spot and analyze 'anything and everything', considering that you are completely oblivious to those things outside of your awareness.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #295 on: May 13, 2012, 12:47:02 AM »
Quote from: anart on May 12, 2012, 11:27:58 PM
Quote from: bngenoh on May 12, 2012, 04:09:48 PM

Btw, has anyone else noted that conscious awareness seems more "solid," as in more unified I guess, being able to spot and analyze anything and everything if one so chooses?

That's quite the statement, bngenoh.   ;)  How can you know that you can spot and analyze 'anything and everything', considering that you are completely oblivious to those things outside of your awareness.
:lol: Nice catch anart, a more accurate statement would be that I can spot & analyze more than I had been able to before. HEHE, you rock anart, maybe I should call you Eagle eye'd anart.  :lol:
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #296 on: May 13, 2012, 02:44:05 AM »
Having completed six sessions of a ten-session course in the same unit voyageur went to, I have to say this is quite the unique experience. :D  I really don't like cold (at all!), so I was pretty apprehensive before starting.  But the staff were very good about educating everyone about what to expect.  One of them is there with you for moral support while you're taking the treatment.  They are very good about encouraging everyone and keeping you a little distracted.    As  kind of joke they play Bob Marley tunes ("Everything's Gonna Be Alright) while you have the session.  It helps!   At the end of three minutes though, I'm really ready to come out.  I'm still turning lobster-red with ghost-white shins (there's a hilarious pic of that) after each session. ;) It will be interesting to see if that changes by the tenth one.

As I don't have any outstanding health issues, it's kind of hard to tell what is changing, though in between sessions three and four, I slept for three hours in the facility's rest area.  It didn't seem very deep (I thought I could still hear the spa's background music), but it was really, really restful.  It has carried over to today.  My blood pressure has dropped a bit, in the two times it's been taken, but that could be from doing pipe breathing before going in.  My body feels very relaxed in general.  I'm not finding the residual tensions in my neck and other places when I do a quick scan of my body.  That's pretty cool right there.

I've been following the diet recommendations from the beginning, adjusting as new info came out, and pretty strict paleo for the last year.  Even though I can't point to anything dramatic, I would say whole-body cryotherapy is something worth doing if you have the chance, after you've been on the Paleo diet for a fair amount of time.   It probably makes a big difference in the experience.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #297 on: May 13, 2012, 02:58:18 AM »
 I have been doing cold bath regularly, though I start with luke warm and with in 10 sec switch off hot water. Let the water fall on face first. first 5 sec  intense emotions comes "I don't like this and I hate this I want to run away" program head kicks in, but pretty soon that goes away and I keep moving the body , not staying in the cold water too long though. little red skin.   Temperature is not that cold either here. Still feeling  little fearful of jumping in.  Feel pretty good with it cold baths though.
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #298 on: May 13, 2012, 09:09:34 AM »
Thank you all for this so interesting thread I read in totality and for reporting your own experiences, it attracts my attention, one more time about how work our own believes about anything we could think harmless...
So waiting for to be able (financially) to follow a cryogenic chamber therapy (I looked for and one is very close from my home, it is such a good thing!), I would like to ask a question:

Quote from: herondancer on May 13, 2012, 02:44:05 AM
I've been following the diet recommendations from the beginning, adjusting as new info came out, and pretty strict paleo for the last year.  Even though I can't point to anything dramatic, I would say whole-body cryotherapy is something worth doing if you have the chance, after you've been on the Paleo diet for a fair amount of time.   It probably makes a big difference in the experience.

Since how long the paleo diet should it be begun to obtain the best adequacy between 'deprogrammings'?
I listen there, a preliminary deprogramming with the paleo diet implying the abolition of all the food 'pleasure', followed by the other deprogrammings of the same order, as the toilet in the cold water rather than the comfort/pleasure of the warm water.

This could be a little bit different for each one of us I guess, and if some of you have feedbacks regarding the interaction between the beginning of a cold shower/bath program or cryo program and from how long was started the paleo diet, it could help if I may... By the way, I am starting slowly but surely the cold shower as I used to do it when I was a young woman, without know exactly why I did it, only because I felt well after... No fate.

By the way, I will report feedbacks on it by knowing I started the paleo-diet seven months ago. Thank you all again I really feel grateful to be here with you.  ;)
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Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy
« Reply #299 on: May 13, 2012, 12:41:38 PM »
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As  kind of joke they play Bob Marley tunes ("Everything's Gonna Be Alright) while you have the session.

That would be incentive enough for me to have the sessions! :)

Quote from: MK Scarlett on May 13, 2012, 09:09:34 AM
Thank you all for this so interesting thread I read in totality and for reporting your own experiences, it attracts my attention, one more time about how work our own believes about anything we could think harmless...
So waiting for to be able (financially) to follow a cryogenic chamber therapy (I looked for and one is very close from my home, it is such a good thing!), I would like to ask a question:

Quote from: herondancer on May 13, 2012, 02:44:05 AM
I've been following the diet recommendations from the beginning, adjusting as new info came out, and pretty strict paleo for the last year.  Even though I can't point to anything dramatic, I would say whole-body cryotherapy is something worth doing if you have the chance, after you've been on the Paleo diet for a fair amount of time.   It probably makes a big difference in the experience.

Since how long the paleo diet should it be begun to obtain the best adequacy between 'deprogrammings'?
I listen there, a preliminary deprogramming with the paleo diet implying the abolition of all the food 'pleasure', followed by the other deprogrammings of the same order, as the toilet in the cold water rather than the comfort/pleasure of the warm water.

This could be a little bit different for each one of us I guess, and if some of you have feedbacks regarding the interaction between the beginning of a cold shower/bath program or cryo program and from how long was started the paleo diet, it could help if I may... By the way, I am starting slowly but surely the cold shower as I used to do it when I was a young woman, without know exactly why I did it, only because I felt well after... No fate.

By the way, I will report feedbacks on it by knowing I started the paleo-diet seven months ago. Thank you all again I really feel grateful to be here with you.  ;)


Seven months on the paleo diet should be fine if you're net carb intake is below 50 grams probably. You're in ketosis right?
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I can think of this network-group as a second, adopted family. I can think of Laura and Ark as the "parents" of this rather large family with all our amusing foibles. Occasionally there will be a "falling out;" a certain member may leave the family. But life goes on... and we all continue learning our lessons.

All for One & One for All. Together we stand, divided we fall.
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