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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #315 on: August 01, 2012, 10:08:57 PM »

-- EDIT: Granted that this might be a little off topic so unless asked or unless considered relevant, I might let go off that specific aspect. Such matter can, on the other side, be discussed in an appropriate section of the board if anybody is interested. ---

I think it's interesting that there has been this much discussion about a crop circle that looks very 'human-made'.  Rather like being played like a piano, don't you think?

I got carried away but that isn't because I considered the 'vitamin A' cc as 'authentic'. It does indeed look 'human-made'. 

The EDIT in my last post was not about the cc but rather about organic chemistry and pharmacology which are subjects that could be discussed elsewhere.

Sorry about the noise. I'm back on topic now.

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #316 on: August 01, 2012, 10:11:57 PM »
as far as I'm concerned, I admit that after reading your posts I realize that the mirror neurons CC is really ugly and probably 'human-made'… My emotional involvement with the issue of mirror neurons would not let me see beyond.

Well, I learn slowly.  :-[ :)

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #317 on: August 01, 2012, 10:30:54 PM »
Lets please everybody : _http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/avebury/avebury2012a.html

It follows the series of four that we already got on that thematic, and in my eyes it keeps the same "medium quality" which would exclude a 6Dst origin, 4D in the best case scenario :






Found this last picture elsewhere :
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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #318 on: August 02, 2012, 02:28:00 PM »
If the top one on this page wasn't photoshopped, it's interesting...

http://www.kornkreise-forschung.de/textGermany2012.htm

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #319 on: August 02, 2012, 02:33:42 PM »
If the top one on this page wasn't photoshopped, it's interesting...

http://www.kornkreise-forschung.de/textGermany2012.htm


Ouh nice indeed, do you find it interesting because of the "rectangular "boxes" in which the crop was laid in opposite direktion to the next "box" based on a set of concentrics rings*" ?? :)

*quoting what was written on the website
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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #320 on: August 02, 2012, 03:05:24 PM »
If the top one on this page wasn't photoshopped, it's interesting...

http://www.kornkreise-forschung.de/textGermany2012.htm



Thanks for posting, I was about doing the same :). And I found the comparison interesting (Wiltshire (UK), 25.07.2011):



Also when this one looks a bit asymmetric.

Nonetheless the first one looks more convincing than others that could be seen so far.
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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #321 on: August 02, 2012, 04:53:14 PM »
The cross hatching of the small rectangles that border the outer circles is quite impressive, almost like a form of braiding, where the stalks are folded one way, then another, alternating all around the circle. 

Heh, the first impression that crossed my mind was a circular saw (aka rip saw) and a snowflake, signifying ripping the earth open and snow (ice age).  Are there any ground reports yet for these ones?  I'd be interested to see if the stalks were broken or bent without harm.

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #322 on: August 02, 2012, 05:08:20 PM »



Also when this one looks a bit asymmetric.


Could also simply be because of the angle by which we look at it. It could make it *seem* to be asymmetric.

Just a theory. Many cc are viewed sideways and that could influence our perspective.

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #323 on: August 02, 2012, 05:49:00 PM »
The cross hatching of the small rectangles that border the outer circles is quite impressive, almost like a form of braiding, where the stalks are folded one way, then another, alternating all around the circle. 

Heh, the first impression that crossed my mind was a circular saw (aka rip saw) and a snowflake, signifying ripping the earth open and snow (ice age).  Are there any ground reports yet for these ones?  I'd be interested to see if the stalks were broken or bent without harm.

Gonzo

I was reminded of teeth on cogs or gears, and I also find this quite impressive-if human generated they are quite well done. The others that seem to follow a "theme" I would think were designed to do just that and probably done by the same "group" whom ever (or whatever?) that might be

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #324 on: August 02, 2012, 07:05:28 PM »
I came home from Wiltshire England two days ago. 

 I went to many crop circle lectures, and was one of the first in the fields when new crop circles are discovered.  I have a lot to share with you, but right now I'm still processing everything.  Our group was fortunate to have a private lecture with  Michael Glickman, the author of Crop Circles The Bones of God  From him and others I learned that the intelligence of the crop circles is that of sacred geometry.  I can now recognize that the six sided flower in the page posted by tschai is called "The flower of Life". 

From being in the fields themselves, I learned that one possible reason for the raggedy look of some of the crop circles  is due to the visitors who sometimes trample the wheat.  Another cause is when a circle is created early during the growing season, it loses the sharpness of the design as more crop grows around it.

Each circle has places in which one could be seated like little  rooms.  In the center of these "rooms" is a sheaf of standing crop.  I mention this because I don't think this feature shows up in photographs.

For those who are interested in learning about sacred geometry a book entitled "A Beginner's Guide to Constructing the Universe" by Michael S. Schneider.  It  was highly recommended by Michael Glickman.  I have this book and will quote the following from it:

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The circle is the womb and cradle of our symbolic universe.  It shows the characteristics of unity everywhere the same and containing no differences between it.  Like a circle tossed into a pond, a circle can only reproduce more circles in its own likeness...Tje circle replicates a mate for itself by contemplating itself, reflecting its light and creating its own shadow.  The process is mirrored in geometry as the birth of the line.  It has been done from time immemorial through an ancient geometric construction called in western tradition the vesica piscis.   
 

The following quote by anart motivated me to start this journey: 

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One thing we know for sure is that 'time pressure' - stressing out about not having enough time - is not only useless, it is damaging, I'd even say entropic.  We can have no impact on time (it doesn't even exist) - we cannot change others and we cannot stop what is coming.  However, it is my deep understanding that continuing, in the midst of this increasing madness, to objectively awaken and help others who are asking to do the same - to live as if there is nothing more important than THIS - every day, in everything, standing up for the Truth and becoming objectively Real is sending a signal out to the Universe that will be noted in the grand scheme of things.

If you consider that every step you take toward awakening sends out a signal - that every program you remove, every effort you make to be a representative of Truth and Creativity in this world sends out a signal, then the 'time issue' fades away.  If you act as if everything you do affects the future, then there is an amazing amount of time in a single day to make a difference.

Perhaps it is about approaching it differently than as if it is a checklist of books to read or concepts to grasp.  Perhaps it is simply a matter of doing what you love - being good to yourself - learning what is burning within YOU to learn and doing so with some level of joy that you have this opportunity, in this amazing time to do so.

We will do what we will do - and all there is is lessons.  Pushing oneself to overcome interior barriers is vitally important, but stressing over not having enough time takes energy away from remembering oneself, doesn't it?  Perhaps this is where faith comes into play.  The Universe knows what it is doing and we have a certain amount of 'time' left to contribute in this venue - to send out that signal and do what is before us to do - what else could matter more than that?  And, ultimately, what more could one hope for a lifetime?

The following was my signature quote for quite a while - perhaps you'll understand why...


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FORGET "I should", forget it all. Replace it by "I LOVE TO DO ...." and skip completely the TIME issue. If you need five lives to accomplish what you WANT, let this be the first of those five. And then, without any "time obligation" or "should stressing" - start it.  First step first. And ENJOY it. And LOVE yourself - take care of yourself.

This is the only thing that the Universe (God?) wants from you, I think.   Arkadiusz Jadczyk


So - relax - have a little faith - and simply focus on doing what is in you to do - and enjoy it! 

Thank you anart.




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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #325 on: August 03, 2012, 10:09:34 AM »
Re above quote

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Thank you anart.

Nicely said, thank you, too.
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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #326 on: August 03, 2012, 02:09:52 PM »
Re above quote

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Thank you anart.

Nicely said, thank you, too.

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #327 on: August 03, 2012, 11:30:10 PM »
Just a reminder about the "August 4 crop": https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,27143.msg345396.html#msg345396

Remember that the year is unclear and this quote too:

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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #328 on: August 04, 2012, 12:31:15 AM »
Just a reminder about the "August 4 crop": https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,27143.msg345396.html#msg345396

Remember that the year is unclear and this quote too:

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"Just remember: All prophecies attached to calendar dates are useless unless you wish to be sucked up by the fourth density STS forces!"
July 14, 1996
And me to say out loud : Oh, I forgot about that one ! :D
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Re: 2012 Crop Circles
« Reply #329 on: August 04, 2012, 02:54:35 AM »
Below are some explanations that are taken from the discipline of sacred geometry and may be of use in analyzing crop circles.  I'll present a few.  In addition to the physical aspects of the shapes, there are some interpretations that may or may not be of use.  You may also be motivated, (or not) to do some fact checking on other sites.

All the quotes come from this website:  _https://www.google.com/search?q=Flower+of+life+in+sacred+geometry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflbhttps://www.google.com/search?q=Flower+of+life+in+sacred+geometry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb

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2) General Philosophical Relationship between Fibonacci and Golden Mean

General Philosophy of the Golden Mean

In general, because the golden mean has no beginning and no end, it then becomes a fairly good metaphor for spirit in a material reality. The golden mean (or spirit) can be observed, but it cannot be bound at its beginning or its end. The Golden Mean Spiral has an additional aspect to it that warrants closer observation. This aspect stimulates much thought as we ponder it.

One of the characteristics of the Golden Mean Spiral is that it continues on in ever diminishing spirals. The spiral soon becomes so infinitesimal that, theoretically, it could break the plane of one dimension and enter another dimension. Once it does this it could begin again inside another dimension as a comparatively large spiral, working its way down to becoming smaller yet again until it would break that dimensional plane and move into another one and onward into infinity. Even though this is a linear model, it will be sufficient to demonstrate the basic idea.

In another viewpoint suggested by Dan Winter, the golden mean spirals infinitesimally smaller and breaks the plane of the third dimension. This time however, the golden mean spiral enters into a dimension of frequencies that are at the speed of light and beyond.

If we view the universe in its natural, nonlinear state that encompasses all dimensions and frequencies, then when we break the plane of the 3D we enter back into the space of all frequencies or eternal transcendence. In the nonphysical dimensions all things are in eternal transcendence and occupy all frequencies – light speed and beyond.

When the golden mean enters the third dimension from this higher state of frequencies, it enters a dimension bounded by time. When the spiral (inside the 3D) spirals infinitely smaller to break the plane of the 3D it then enters back into the dimension of higher frequencies and eternal transcendence. On the other side of this 3rd dimension are the higher frequencies and beyond.

The golden mean then, can be used as a symbol or an analogy for spirit in the material, and it also can be used as an analogy for the thread that ties the material and ethereal dimensions together. It can be likened to a type of vine that bears the grape (an elongated sphere) that composes the octave of this and quite possibly all dimensions. Parallel dimensions can be likened to a cluster of grapes (elongated spherical octaves) all stemming from a healthy Golden-Mean vine.

Each sentient being with an open heart has a multitude of spiral-vines emanating from the heart that in turn create a multitude of parallel realities coexisting on a multitude of dimensional planes. These many realities coexist, overlapping with the reality of other people and they cocreate a cohesive and holistic spectrum of realities and possibilities that line the fabric of the infinite.

 

 
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1) A Little Philosophy on Sacred Geometry

Anybody can draw a form in geometry and it is just geometry; but when you relate Great Spirit or consciousness and the opening of the heart to geometry, you're creating Sacred Geometry. Therefore, Sacred Geometry is about how to open the heart and evolve the consciousness through geometric models. These models mirror your own consciousness. First cause sacred geometry is made out of light/consciousness. When you see how geometries fluidly transition into each other, you will see how they keep transcending and moving into a higher evolving pattern. When you understand that, you can then relate sacred geometry to the heart. And the spiral is the most important key.

Sacred geometry is the study of geometric forms and their metaphorical relationships to human evolution as well as a study in fluid evolutionary transitions of mind, emotions, spirit, and consciousness reflected in the succeeding transition from one sacred geometric form (consciousness state) into another.

True sacred geometric forms never fixate or stagnate on one single form. Instead they are actually in constant fluid transcendence and change (evolve or devolve) from one geometric form to another at their own speed or frequency.

When we consciously activate a set of prime or sacred geometric proportions around a body such as a tetrahedron (or any of the platonic solids), we are tuning our own personal frequencies to coordinate and operate in concordance with the dominant harmonic.

Imagine then, that at every point in the body where energy is transmitted or received, living, changing, three- or four-dimensional geometric mandalas are continuously created. Mandalas can also be in a constant state of fluid transition, evolving into a variety of concentric geometric patterns.

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General Philosophy of the Golden Mean

In general, because the golden mean has no beginning and no end, it then becomes a fairly good metaphor for spirit in a material reality. The golden mean (or spirit) can be observed, but it cannot be bound at its beginning or its end. The Golden Mean Spiral has an additional aspect to it that warrants closer observation. This aspect stimulates much thought as we ponder it.

One of the characteristics of the Golden Mean Spiral is that it continues on in ever diminishing spirals. The spiral soon becomes so infinitesimal that, theoretically, it could break the plane of one dimension and enter another dimension. Once it does this it could begin again inside another dimension as a comparatively large spiral, working its way down to becoming smaller yet again until it would break that dimensional plane and move into another one and onward into infinity. Even though this is a linear model, it will be sufficient to demonstrate the basic idea.

In another viewpoint suggested by Dan Winter, the golden mean spirals infinitesimally smaller and breaks the plane of the third dimension. This time however, the golden mean spiral enters into a dimension of frequencies that are at the speed of light and beyond.

If we view the universe in its natural, nonlinear state that encompasses all dimensions and frequencies, then when we break the plane of the 3D we enter back into the space of all frequencies or eternal transcendence. In the nonphysical dimensions all things are in eternal transcendence and occupy all frequencies – light speed and beyond.

When the golden mean enters the third dimension from this higher state of frequencies, it enters a dimension bounded by time. When the spiral (inside the 3D) spirals infinitely smaller to break the plane of the 3D it then enters back into the dimension of higher frequencies and eternal transcendence. On the other side of this 3rd dimension are the higher frequencies and beyond.

The golden mean then, can be used as a symbol or an analogy for spirit in the material, and it also can be used as an analogy for the thread that ties the material and ethereal dimensions together. It can be likened to a type of vine that bears the grape (an elongated sphere) that composes the octave of this and quite possibly all dimensions. Parallel dimensions can be likened to a cluster of grapes (elongated spherical octaves) all stemming from a healthy Golden-Mean vine.

Each sentient being with an open heart has a multitude of spiral-vines emanating from the heart that in turn create a multitude of parallel realities coexisting on a multitude of dimensional planes. These many realities coexist, overlapping with the reality of other people and they cocreate a cohesive and holistic spectrum of realities and possibilities that line the fabric of the infinite.

 

There is a lot more on this site for you to look into if you wish.

The explanations do help both to identify the figures in the crop circles, and perhaps suggest an opening for interpretation.  I, for example, can see the flower of life motif in JayMark's 12:08 comment.  The figure is made of two circles created by a first circle, (spirit, The Creator, God), and a second circle which is made by putting the compass on a point on the radius of the circle and drawing another circle from any point around the radius.  This creates the vesica picsis.  The vesica picis is where creation between the male and female occur.  It can also be interpreted as the vulva.  From this union comes everything. 

For this reason, my own interpretation of what is to come is somewhat hopeful.  I could of course, be wrong.
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