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Toulouse Shootings
Biomiast:
I know there was another thread on this topic, but it was removed after server failure. Laura mentioned missing threads and posts will come back soon, but until they do, maybe we can continue our discussion here, then the topics can be merged.
So, it is again "Muslim terrorists" who did all these mess. Sott carried an article on how the suspect is not matching eyewitness descriptions.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/243273-Witness-of-Montauban-shooting-saw-fat-man-with-scar-or-tattoo-on-left-cheek
And I tend to agree that this guy was used as a scapegoat for the killings, where Sarkozy garners all the sympathy and attention as the "strong leader", what a joke!
Also, isn't it weird that it takes so much time to catch this guy? I mean, apart from preventing the second shootings, they basically camped outside his house, just waiting and talking. Last I heard, they were making noises to tire him. :huh:
Honestly, if you want to catch someone, there are better ways than to make noise and wait, there are sleeping gasses, flash lights etc. I may be wrong on this, but it seems to me, French police is deliberately lengthening this operation to continue Sarkozy's propaganda, injecting fear to the people with endless media coverage. Either that, or they are just dumb.
My two cents, fwiw.
loreta:
Maybe this is a test, also, for other countries to study how citizens react at this type of situation when the government installed or put in march a sort of "Martial Law". What is the reaction from people? Are they happy because the police is controlling everything from a "danger"? I listened yesterday some people in RFI tell they were satisfied with these drastic measures. And evidently it can be a test to promote Islamophobia.
I am sure that when a country, in Europe, is imposing this type of measures it is in coordination with the UE, with the Masters, our masters, who live in Brussels. So a measure like this in France is a mirror of what can be in another country, very soon. Maybe. Very interesting.
Laura:
Joe's article on the topic:
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/243251-Sarkozy-s-Backers-To-Use-Toulouse-Attacks-To-Steal-French-Election
And update!
It seems that the atty for the alleged Toulouse Terrorist now says that he could not have been in jail in Afghanistan - or done all the things the French authorities are saying he did - because he was in a French jail. The news first appeared on our radar on a Polish news site. Within ten minutes or so, going back to grab it, the text had changed though the title remained in the url. See this: _http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1738978,0,1,siedzial-w-wiezieniu--ale-francuskim--nie-afganskim,wiadomosc.html
Another article in Israeli news just said that Merrah was not in prison in Afghanistan, and did not include the part about him being in French jail:
_http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/235439
--- Quote --- Toulouse Terrorist Wasn't Imprisoned in Afghanistan
Terrorist Mohammad Merrah who murdered four Jews in Toulouse was not imprisoned in Afghanistan in 2007, Merrah's lawyer and the office of the governor of the Kandahar province said on Wednesday.
Earlier, a prison administrator claimed that Merrah was arrested in Afghanistan in December of 2007 and was sentenced to three years in prison after he had planted bombs in Kandahar.
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_http://www.polskieradio.pl/5/3/Artykul/571215,Siedzial-w-wiezieniu-ale-francuskim-nie-afganskim
--- Quote --- Polish Press Agency
Siedzial w wiezieniu, ale francuskim, nie afganskim
Siedzial w wiezieniu, ale francuskim, nie afganskim
22.03.2012
Domniemany zabójca z Tuluzy Mohamed Merah nie siedzial w wiezieniu w Afganistanie od 2007 roku - oswiadczyl jego prawnik, dementujac wczesniejsze informacje.
Prawnik Meraha we Francji Christian Etelin ujawnil, ze jego klient siedzial we francuskim wiezieniu od grudnia 2007 do wrzesnia 2009, skazany za napad rabunkowy, wiec nie mógl byc w tym czasie w Afganistanie.
According to his lawyer, Christian Etelin, Mohamed Merah was in French prison from December 2007 to September 2009 for a robbery, so he could not be in Afghanistan at that time.
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Digging further, we find it in English:
--- Quote --- French shooting suspect not jailed in Afghanistan
_http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2012/03/21/19530001.html
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan -- French school shooting suspect Mohamed Merah was not jailed in Afghanistan in 2007, his lawyer and an Afghan provincial official said on Wednesday.
Earlier, Kandahar prison chief Ghulam Faruq had told Reuters that Afghan security forces detained Merah on Dec. 19, 2007, and that he was sentenced to three years in jail for planting bombs in the southern province of Kandahar, the Taliban's birthplace.
But the Kandahar governor's office said that account was "baseless", citing judicial records. "Security forces in Kandahar have never detained a French citizen named Mohamed Merah," the governor's spokesman, Ahmad Jawed Faisal, said.
Merah's lawyer in France, Christian Etelin, said his client was in prison in France from December 2007 until September 2009, serving a sentence for robbery with violence, and therefore could not have been in Afghanistan at the time.
Merah, a French citizen of Algerian origin, is suspected of killing seven people in the name of the al-Qaida militant network, including three children at a Jewish school in Toulouse in southwestern France.
French Interior Minister Claude Gueant said Merah had been to Pakistan and Afghanistan, and had carried out his killings in revenge for French military involvement abroad.
In Pakistan, an intelligence official who declined to be identified said Merah had never been arrested there. "We have no information about him," the Pakistani official said.
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Finally, we find the French version:
--- Quote ---Mohamed Merah n'aurait pas été détenu en Afghanistan
_http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/topnews/20120321.REU2384/mohamed-merah-n-aurait-pas-ete-detenu-en-afghanistan.html
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Le gouverneur de la province afghane de Kandahar a démenti mercredi les propos du directeur des prisons qui avait affirmé que le suspect des tueries de Toulouse et Montauban avait été arrêté en 2007 en Afghanistan et s'était évadé quelques mois plus tard.
S'appuyant sur des documents pénitentiaires, Ghulam Faruq, directeur des prisons de Kandahar, avait déclaré à Reuters que Mohamed Merah avait été arrêté le 19 décembre 2007 et condamné à trois ans de prison, avant de s'enfuir à la faveur d'une opération commando menée en juin 2008 par des taliban.
Un haut responsable des services de renseignement de Kandahar avait également confirmé ces informations, mais elles ont été démenties peu après par le bureau du gouverneur de Kandahar, qui juge "sans fondement" cette version des faits, s'appuyant notamment sur des rapports judiciaires.
"Les forces de sécurité de Kandahar n'ont jamais détenu un citoyen français qui répond au nom de Mohamed Merah", a déclaré Ahmad Jawed Faisal, porte-parole du gouverneur.
L'avocat français de Merah, Christian Etelin, a déclaré que son client avait été emprisonné en France de décembre 2007 à septembre 2009 après une condamnation pour vol avec violences. Il ne pouvait donc pas, selon lui, se trouver à la prison de Kandahar pendant ce laps de temps.
Cette prison de haute sécurité située dans un faubourg du sud de Kandahar est le principal établissement pénitentiaire du sud de l'Afghanistan. Les détenus dits "politiques" y sont séparés des détenus de droit commun.
A l'époque, le gouvernement afghan avait réclamé davantage d'aide internationale, faisant état de l'arrivée de plus de 4.000 combattants étrangers venus de Tchétchénie, d'Afrique du Nord ou du Pakistan pour épauler l'insurrection des taliban.
De nombreux djihadistes étrangers ont quitté l'Afghanistan au moment de l'envoi de renforts par l'Otan, en 2009.
Selon les autorités françaises, Mohamed Merah, Français d'origine algérienne, s'est rendu au Pakistan et en Afghanistan.
Au Pakistan, un responsable des services de renseignement a déclaré que Mohamed Merah n'avait jamais été arrêté dans le pays. "Nous n'avons aucune information le concernant", a-t-il dit, en requérant l'anonymat.
Le suspect était en France sous surveillance de la Direction centrale du renseignement intérieur (DCRI) depuis longtemps pour appartenance à un mouvement salafiste sans qu'il y ait eu toutefois d'élément permettant de penser qu'il était sur le point de passer à un acte criminel, a précisé le ministre français de l'Intérieur, Claude Guéant.
Ahmad Nadem, Jack Kimball et Rob Taylor, Henri-Pierre André, Jean-Stéphane Brosse et Hélène Duvigneau pour le service français
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Needless to say, SOTT is archiving screen shots.
Laura:
Explosives found in the brother's car: https://www.sott.net/articles/show/243254-French-SWAT-unit-finds-explosives-in-Toulouse-suspect-brother-s-car
The local rag sez these explosives are the same ones used in a 1995 Muslim terrorist attack. I reckon that means their long residence in a police evidence storage room finally paid off... nothing easier than planting 17 year-old stuff in a suspect's car... never mind that the suspect was just a little kid that long ago.
Merah is 24... in 1995 he was 7.
Regulattor:
--- Quote from: Laura on March 22, 2012, 10:30:56 AM ---Merah is 24... in 1995 he was 7.
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