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HowToBe:
Alright. I applied for a local job, went in for an interview, and I might have a chance to get the job (movie rentals/ retail). Trouble is, the manager informs me that when I applied I got a "yellow" on the profiling test, and must get a "green" score before she can consider me for hire. She gave me another chance to take the test (maybe I gave a good impression), so I'd appreciate some input. I need to retake it today or tomorrow. If I can get the job it might might give our family enough additional income to start buying grass fed meats and fats for diet changes, books, and also contribute to a land purchase we are trying to make. I will probably be working part time.

I'm generally honest and fairly intelligent, and fairly introverted. The trouble is that these tests tend to screen out the honest, intelligent, and introverted, based on what I've read. I don't think it's unreasonable for me to try and figure out the test since I can learn to behave in a way appropriate for the job once I actually have it, and I'm pretty adaptable (or so I think).

These links are the material I've read on the subject;
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/242040-US-How-To-Pass-a-Psychological-Employment-Profile-Test
_http://www.timothyhorrigan.com/documents/unicru-personality-test.answer-key.html
_http://www.reddit.com/r/geek/comments/9dz8l/the_unicru_test_is_a_common_commercial/

In addition, I was told by the manager (and I've been told this before) that it's best to always answer "Strongly Agree" or "Strongly Disagree" to the questions. The websites above also say this. The yellow score might be because I mostly answered with "agree" or "disagree", when they are looking for the more polarized "Strongly Agree/Disagree".

So, I was wondering if anyone with some experience could chime in with recommendations? I think I might have 'failed' the test if I hadn't read the SOTT article beforehand. I looked up the other resources today after the manager gave me this second chance. I have every intention of doing the job according to the employer's desires, within reason (keeping strategic enclosure and external considering in mind), but this requires that I first jump through this hoop. Is it reasonable to say that the situation "asks" for a bit of well-meaning deception?

I guess what I'm mainly wondering is if anyone can verify the information in the websites I linked?

Pashalis:

--- Quote ---Is it reasonable to say that the situation "asks" for a bit of well-meaning deception?
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yes I think so

Megan:

--- Quote from: HowToBe on March 29, 2012, 06:34:46 PM ---...The trouble is that these tests tend to screen out the honest, intelligent, and introverted, based on what I've read...

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And/or people who think for themselves and question "orders."


--- Quote ---...Is it reasonable to say that the situation "asks" for a bit of well-meaning deception?...

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Yes, if you really want to work there still, knowing what you know now. Excessive honesty might be one of the things they are trying to screen out.

HowToBe:

--- Quote from: Megan on March 29, 2012, 10:56:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: HowToBe on March 29, 2012, 06:34:46 PM ---...The trouble is that these tests tend to screen out the honest, intelligent, and introverted, based on what I've read...

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And/or people who think for themselves and question "orders."

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Yes. We'll see if it works on me. ;D


--- Quote from: Megan on March 29, 2012, 10:56:38 PM ---
--- Quote ---...Is it reasonable to say that the situation "asks" for a bit of well-meaning deception?...

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Yes, if you really want to work there still, knowing what you know now. Excessive honesty might be one of the things they are trying to screen out.

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I was excessively honest when I was younger and in school, but what is "honest" is not always right, and in any case there is more than one way to be "honest", some more and some less selfish.

At this point I have a good picture of what they "want" me to say. My main concern is getting weeded out for answering the questions "too correctly". I'm suspicious of following any online "cheat sheets".

From the Kronos, Inc. website:

--- Quote from: Kronos ---Computer Adaptive Testing (CAT):  Applicants want shorter assessments while hiring managers want more predictive information about their candidates. Now you can achieve BOTH.  CAT tailors the assessment to the candidate in real time, “adapting” the questions to the candidate’s responses as they are given. The test is harder to cheat and faster to complete while maintaining a high level of predictive accuracy – improving the overall quality of the assessment.
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EDIT: Hmm, sorry for the soap box moment there, I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir.

Mrs. Peel:

--- Quote from: Megan on March 29, 2012, 10:56:38 PM ---
Yes, if you really want to work there still, knowing what you know now. Excessive honesty might be one of the things they are trying to screen out.

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Ah, remember, "sincerity with everyone is a weakness."  or something like that.     :lol:

I can see them wanting a "strongly" kind of answer.  Although I've not taken a test to screen me for a job, I've taken some while on the job.  Try to look at it from the employer's point of view and answer what you think they want to hear, or how they'd prefer you act in a situation you may encounter while on the job.

With that said, I guess you basically need to be who they want you to be, unfortunately.

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