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anart:

--- Quote from: Megan on April 04, 2012, 05:05:57 AM ---
Possibly in the context of a personality test, which is basically a game in which all answers are subjective, lying (or telling the truth) is not even possible. Whether "that's life" applies or not in general to role playing and truth telling, though, I can't say. For me it does not; for others it may.

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I think you're being a little disingenuous here. In a world of lies, how can role playing not apply? Are you honestly saying that you never lie in order to make life easier for yourself and others? That is, in a very real way, the definition of external consideration. The Law of Three always applies, Megan - a human being living on planet earth in 2012 must play a role in life, especially if they are involved in esoteric studies. Perhaps re-reading Mme de Salzmann's First Initiation may give you another perspective on this?

Brenda86:
I'll chime in for this if it's not to late as I have taken and, as far as I know, always passed these kinds of tests and also know my brother who has trouble passing them. We've discussed these and figured a few things out that have fit with our experiences.
First, different people have different ideas about what is expected on these things and almost everyone adjusts according to those expectations.
But they are usually looking for compliant, cooperative people who can work well alone AND with others and people who are honest on the big things - like someone stealing DVDs from the movie store - but lets the small things slide - like not returning a pen or a co-worker making a quick personal phone call even though it's technically against the rules. They always weed out so-called 'taddle tales' because quite frankly its not cost effective to reprimand every unreturned pen or personal call and almost everyone bends the rules.
Its also important as I said before to strongly agree with anything about working alone AND anything about working in groups.
You'll want to agree to any questions gauging your willingness to do jobs outside your normal duties of those kinds of questions come up as well.
Anything regarding how to handle customer complaints you usually want to go middle of the road like trying to resolve the issue yourself only involving management if that doesn't work.

If you can remember specific questions/topics I can probably help more. And good luck!

HowToBe:

--- Quote from: anart on April 03, 2012, 06:23:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Megan on April 02, 2012, 09:01:42 PM ---If you have to out and out lie just to get the job then you may find yourself having to do the same to keep it. I would think twice about that sort of job. More often, it's really a matter of presenting yourself in a favorable light without making things up, and adapting appropriately for each person standing between you and the job. That much is generally expected, at least in the part of the job market in which I participate.

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I think it's important to remember that sincerity with everyone is a major weakness, if not insanity. To think that you don't have to lie - in a myriad of ways - to get or hold any number of jobs is really quite naive. Strategic Enclosure and playing a role is the whole point - to be in this world, but not of it. This applies as well to work, how could it not?

I don't think answering a personality test in the way that gets you the job is anything other than doing what is necessary to do - that's life - and that is playing a role and acting in a way that is wise, protects you and allows you to do what you need to do.
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I agree. My thinking is; If I answer the questions according to their expectations, with full intention of meeting those expectations (within reason; applying discernment), then where is the foul? I figure it could be a great learning experience in both Strategic Enclosure and External Considering (and who knows what else). At the same time I don't know if it will even happen, so I'm thinking about other options and have made some steps toward these.

On a more abstract line of thought, I was thinking recently about the idea that ultimately All Creation is God (DCM) pretending to be Not-God; that is, CHOOSING to BE in certain ways for the purpose of learning. I imagine the same is true for choices on our level, or maybe all levels; although some things have been decided for us as part of the "School", we have the ability to choose the role we wish to play within our learning environment - I suppose this amounts to "how" we wish to learn. So it seems to me that "playing roles" is not something far removed from the basic workings of the Universe. Just the result of some idle bed-time speculation. :)

Brenda86; I understand, and thanks for the tips. I think at this point the main thing that might get me is if their machine can detect that I've "got their number" (ie if I answer "too correctly"). But maybe I think too highly of my abilities, or too highly of their machine! :)

Megan:

--- Quote from: anart on April 04, 2012, 03:45:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: Megan on April 04, 2012, 05:05:57 AM ---
Possibly in the context of a personality test, which is basically a game in which all answers are subjective, lying (or telling the truth) is not even possible. Whether "that's life" applies or not in general to role playing and truth telling, though, I can't say. For me it does not; for others it may.

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I think you're being a little disingenuous here. In a world of lies, how can role playing not apply? Are you honestly saying that you never lie in order to make life easier for yourself and others? That is, in a very real way, the definition of external consideration. The Law of Three always applies, Megan - a human being living on planet earth in 2012 must play a role in life, especially if they are involved in esoteric studies. Perhaps re-reading Mme de Salzmann's First Initiation may give you another perspective on this?

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Anart - I am not disagreeing with you about the use of role playing in this situation. I am finding, however, that this is not a topic that I can discuss very well. I am better at some topics than others, and at some times than others. I am having trouble making out the important points, my time for replying is limited, and at times I am just not making sense.

I can't say that I don't ever lie to make life easier for myself and others, although it is something I have had to work on over the years, and it is something upon which I keep a close watch.

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