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Radagast:

--- Quote from: Jones on June 12, 2012, 07:19:55 PM ---

Just curious though, do dogs also need Omega 3 supps?


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They sure do, unless you feed them grass fed meat

dantem:
Hi Herr Eisenheim, All,

since I'm dealing dealing with a quite big pet here, and since a paleo-diet usually leaves bones of any kind of meat on my dish, I was wondering two things mainly:

1 - Are there restriction about which kind of meat to feed a pet with? Pork, chicken, bovine, sheep, etc..

2 - Usually dogs like bones... is it always the case? Are they good for them?

Cannot find any info on the above mentioned websites, and I'm not into buying canned food of any kind due to economic restriction. Just seeking a way to feed him the best with 'home-made' food.

Thanks.

Jones:
My understanding about bones is that yes dogs can/should have them but only if they're raw. 

I've fed my dogs based on information from the following for around 20 years now:

http://www.rawmeatybones.com/

dantem:

--- Quote from: Jones on July 30, 2012, 03:47:13 PM ---My understanding about bones is that yes dogs can/should have them but only if they're raw. 

I've fed my dogs based on information from the following for around 20 years now:

http://www.rawmeatybones.com/

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Nice spot! Thanks Jones!

I was wondering if spiky and badly cut bones can arm the pet's belly or mouth... or maybe they just know how to crunch 'em to dust  :)

Jones:
You're welcome.

I generally choose non weight bearing bones like ribs, brisket or neck if the bones are from a large beast as the weight bearing bones are harder.  Also often when they are cut they have sharp edges that do worry me.  I have heard of dogs that split back teeth by crunching down on the cut edge  of a sawn in half leg bone of a cow.  If the bones come from smaller animals I'm less concerned though. 

We have an organic chicken meat outlet here in Australia called Leonards that sell the chicken carcasses (rib cage, spine, pelvis) quite cheaply.  There is quite a bit of meat left on these and they are roughly 1/3 bone and 2/3 meat and fat.  That forms the basis of my dogs diet and I alternately add sardines in water, liver (chicken or lamb), kidney, lamb flap (rib portions with meat and fat), lamb neck, heart, raw egg also table scraps including vegetables that are safe for dogs.  Curious if the eggs come fresh from a backyard chicken that free ranges my dog will eat the shell, but she won't eat the shell of any shop bought egg regardless if it's advertised as free range or not.

I remember being concerned when I first started my dogs on this diet and worried about bone portions in the digestive system and the damage they might do.  I was always checking their droppings and never found any pieces of intact bone.  If there is too much bone and not enough meat, the droppings are very light in colour though and conversely very dark if not enough bone.

I think its also important not to overdo it on the bone at first though and introduce it gradually until it is part of the daily feeding routine.

There are so many area's of benefit.

My dogs, even though I don't bath them very regularly - maybe twice a year, don't really get a 'doggy' smell.  They smell like leather.  I very rarely see a flea and have only had to treat them once when we moved to a house where there'd been dogs before.  They have a much lighter worming schedule, and a very clean mouth and teeth.

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