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The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« on: April 13, 2012, 08:56:56 PM »
I don't know if this article is in the good section. Today is the anniversary of the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British army killed 1,000 civilians in India under the British Empire and for some historians this act was the beginning of the end of the British Empire.

I didn't know about this subject but I am reading the master piece novel by Paul Scott, the Jewel of the Crown where one character talks about this tragedy. I went to see information and found that it happened one 13 of April 1919. I put the link here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

In fact the responsible of this massacre were psychopaths. But surely this article should go anywhere? I don't know. :-[ Maybe we should have a list of some threats that can guide us when deciding where to put an article or reflexion? Or maybe this information exists?

Novels are informative also. In this case, the Jewel of the Crown is a super novel that goes farther of a simple fiction. 

For me it is important to learn about what Empires have done and done and done and still do. Just remembering the atrocities they did it is a form of respecting the victims.
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Re: The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2012, 06:09:47 PM »
Hi Loreta,

I wasn't aware of this date but if I'm not mistaken, this massacre forms part of the famous feature film Gandhi. At least that's where I remember it from. It turns out it was also called the Amritsar massacre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Dyer#Amritsar_massacre

In the Gandhi film the part of Dyer was played by Edward Fox ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002081/ ), very convincingly I might add.

For Gandhi film see also:
 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083987/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_(film)
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Re: The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 08:49:01 PM »
Hi Loreta,

I wasn't aware of this date but if I'm not mistaken, this massacre forms part of the famous feature film Gandhi. At least that's where I remember it from. It turns out it was also called the Amritsar massacre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Dyer#Amritsar_massacre

In the Gandhi film the part of Dyer was played by Edward Fox ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002081/ ), very convincingly I might add.

For Gandhi film see also:
 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083987/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_(film)

Yes, you are right but I don't remember the movie Gandhi, too long that I saw this movie! :cool2:
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Re: The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2012, 07:59:34 AM »
I don't know if this article is in the good section. Today is the anniversary of the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British army killed 1,000 civilians in India under the British Empire and for some historians this act was the beginning of the end of the British Empire.

I didn't know about this subject but I am reading the master piece novel by Paul Scott, the Jewel of the Crown where one character talks about this tragedy. I went to see information and found that it happened one 13 of April 1919. I put the link here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

In fact the responsible of this massacre were psychopaths. But surely this article should go anywhere? I don't know. :-[ Maybe we should have a list of some threats that can guide us when deciding where to put an article or reflexion? Or maybe this information exists?

Novels are informative also. In this case, the Jewel of the Crown is a super novel that goes farther of a simple fiction. 

For me it is important to learn about what Empires have done and done and done and still do. Just remembering the atrocities they did it is a form of respecting the victims.

Yes, remember the documentary when the empire rolled out their Gatling guns and cut the innocent down; have never forgotten this. :mad:

And yet now, what has changed, we've learned nothing, we've allowed the growth of the business of killing to sick extremes.
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Re: The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2012, 04:46:22 PM »
the murder of 1,000 Indian's by the British under the British Raj pales into insignificance compared to the many famines that the British deliberately created in India by exporting vast amounts of food to enrich the British East India company.

At least 20 million Indians were starved to death during more than 10 famines in the 100 year period between 1800 and 1900.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule

Like in Ireland, the British ultimately found that starvation was the most effective way to control a restive native population under occupation.
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Re: The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2012, 04:48:36 PM »
Perceval, thanks for the link! You are absolutely right.
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Re: The Jallianwala Bagh massacre
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 05:19:51 AM »
Quote from: Perceval
the murder of 1,000 Indian's by the British under the British Raj pales into insignificance compared to the many famines that the British deliberately created in India by exporting vast amounts of food to enrich the British East India company.

At least 20 million Indians were starved to death during more than 10 famines in the 100 year period between 1800 and 1900.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule

Like in Ireland, the British ultimately found that starvation was the most effective way to control a restive native population under occupation.

For those who don't remember or have not read the Dot Connector, there is an excellent article on these tragic evil empire events.
"When the passions of the past blend with the prejudices of the present, human reality is reduced to a picture of black and white."
Marc Bloch, 'The Historian's Craft'