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The Impossible
Pashalis:
--- Quote from: bngenoh on April 29, 2012, 10:39:32 PM ---First one i say very crappy acting. Oh and remember "you can read more about how to increase your psychic abilities at todayshow.com" :rolleyes:
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actually I think there is no acting at all from anybody exept the magician who pretends to do something impossible.
so the only one who knows what is going on in the video is the magician himself.
bngenoh:
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 29, 2012, 11:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: bngenoh on April 29, 2012, 11:05:04 PM ---Third one, if it's her signature then they could just have prepared it before hand.
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the card she signes is actually the exact same card that later appears in the phone.
the phone was not prepared beforhand with any card in it.
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You know for a fact that it is the same card i take it then. Let me clarify because i wasn't clear, since Ellen is a celebrity, she would probably have a standard signature for when she gives autographs. It is more likely that they simply made a card with her signature beforehand, at least to me. Note that her signature is pretty simple, thus it would be very easy to replicate.
As to the phone not being prepared beforehand, why do you think it was sitting on the table like that? From my observations of people with cell phones, they do not just put their phones down at new locations, but i haven't met that many people so...
For this:
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 29, 2012, 11:56:00 PM ---actually I think there is no acting at all from anybody exept the magician who pretends to do something impossible.
so the only one who knows what is going on in the video is the magician himself.
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It may just be the falseness of those talking heads that i perceive to be crappy acting, but i do not know enough to say who knows what in the video, perhaps you do.
Pashalis:
--- Quote from: bngenoh on April 30, 2012, 12:18:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 29, 2012, 11:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: bngenoh on April 29, 2012, 11:05:04 PM ---Third one, if it's her signature then they could just have prepared it before hand.
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the card she signes is actually the exact same card that later appears in the phone.
the phone was not prepared beforhand with any card in it.
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You know for a fact that it is the same card i take it then. Let me clarify because i wasn't clear, since Ellen is a celebrity, she would probably have a standard signature for when she gives autographs. It is more likely that they simply made a card with her signature beforehand, at least to me. Note that her signature is pretty simple, thus it would be very easy to replicate.
As to the phone not being prepared beforehand, why do you think it was sitting on the table like that? From my observations of people with cell phones, they do not just put their phones down at new locations, but i haven't met that many people so...
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what you are thinking is typical when you first encounter a trick wich you can't really explain.
you think in complicated ways how the trick could have been done.
almost 100% of the tricks magicians and illusionists do wich you don't really know how they are done are not the way you think they work.
the minds of people who don't know the secrets of magic almost certainly will follow the wrong direction when searching for the answer for the trick because the brain is not accustomed to think in certain ways.
It's a fact that the card she is signing is later the exact same card that is appearing in the phone.
I know a lot of moves and misdirections magicians do, so I can literary follow every move and misdirection this magician is doing,
and can see how the card gets into the phone with nobody noticing it.
bngenoh:
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 30, 2012, 12:49:55 AM ---what you are thinking is typical when you first encounter a trick wich you can't really explain.
you think in complicated ways how the trick could have been done.
almost 100% of the tricks magicians and illusionists do wich you don't really know how they are done are not the way you think they work.
the minds of people who don't know the secrets of magic almost certainly will follow the wrong direction when searching for the answer for the trick because the brain is not accustomed to think in certain ways.
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People who know how the brain works can easily manipulate it. Did you catch the sound when the phone trick was being done? The implied suggestion at least to me being that the motion of his hand somehow put the card in the phone.
Did you also catch how when the telekinesis trick with the cigarette was being prepared, that is when he was lighting the cigarette, they cut him out of the picture?
Everything was setup to vector thinking along a certain direction.
Don't really care how tricks are done though, because i'm not into magic, but for this:
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 30, 2012, 12:49:55 AM ---It's a fact that the card she is signing is later the exact same card that is appearing in the phone.
I know a lot of moves and misdirections magicians do, so I can literary follow every move and misdirection this magician is doing,
and can see how the card gets into the phone with nobody noticing it.
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i will make an exception. Enlighten me then, on how the card gets into the phone, folded up neatly inside the battery case, with the swipe of his hand. Without some preparation beforehand or editing after hand.
Pashalis:
--- Quote from: bngenoh on April 30, 2012, 01:20:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 30, 2012, 12:49:55 AM ---what you are thinking is typical when you first encounter a trick wich you can't really explain.
you think in complicated ways how the trick could have been done.
almost 100% of the tricks magicians and illusionists do wich you don't really know how they are done are not the way you think they work.
the minds of people who don't know the secrets of magic almost certainly will follow the wrong direction when searching for the answer for the trick because the brain is not accustomed to think in certain ways.
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People who know how the brain works can easily manipulate it. Did you catch the sound when the phone trick was being done? The implied suggestion at least to me being that the motion of his hand somehow put the card in the phone.
Did you also catch how when the telekinesis trick with the cigarette was being prepared, that is when he was lighting the cigarette, they cut him out of the picture?
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there are no camera tricks or editing of the video involved. you could stand right infront of him and he could perform it right infront of you.
It's the same with almost every other impossible trick. they can perform it right infront of you. no camera or editing tricks.
--- Quote ---Everything was setup to vector thinking along a certain direction.
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there was no set up from anybody exept the magician who knows what he is doing.
misdirection , pretending to do something wich he actually didn't do through body language, speach and technique. and knowing how humans react to certain things etc.
--- Quote from: bngenoh on April 30, 2012, 01:20:49 AM ---Don't really care how tricks are done though, because i'm not into magic, but for this:
--- Quote from: Pashalis on April 30, 2012, 12:49:55 AM ---It's a fact that the card she is signing is later the exact same card that is appearing in the phone.
I know a lot of moves and misdirections magicians do, so I can literary follow every move and misdirection this magician is doing,
and can see how the card gets into the phone with nobody noticing it.
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i will make an exception. Enlighten me then, on how the card gets into the phone, folded up neatly inside the battery case, with the swipe of his hand. Without some preparation beforehand or editing after hand.
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I explain tomorrow it's late here.
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