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Offline Ulysses11

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Seeking suggestions for history books
« on: May 02, 2012, 06:19:07 PM »
I m realizing the last 3 weeks that my knowledge about history in general is almost at zero levels!
Also it is shame to tell that I don't know anything ,except the highlights, about my country too.
This realisation started to grow expotentialy since I begun to wonder what should I do in the upcoming greek elections..
I ve lost much time navelgazing all these years, but from the other hand I did the best I could.
It is time starting regaining some ground and put some basics into position.
Could you guys suggest some easy to read history books?
Also I think that the better would be to start with recent historical events (in order to gain ground faster)and then bit by bit add pieces from older times.
Also,I ll try to search for greek history by myself but if by accident there is anyone who does know anything to propose,that would be perfect!
Thank you.

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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 08:46:24 PM »
Your question is very huge! Personally I am not an expert in History but this year I have read two books that I find excellent and very important:

_ Defying Hitler, by Sebastian Haffner (you can read at Sott.net an extremely important reflexion by Laura about this book and our present historical situation).

_ A distant mirror, the calamitous 14th century, by Barbara W. Tuchman. This book is very interesting and the author makes a very interesting link between our times and the 14th century.... Very impressive.

You have also the book written by Laura and Joe Quinn about 9/11, in fact an historical book also when we think about it, 9/11, The Ultimate Truth. In fact you can start with this one, then you are ready for the rest of the history of humanity... ;) And don't forget The Secret History of the World, by Laura.

Surely others members can give you other titles.
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 08:58:14 PM »
Could you guys suggest some easy to read history books?

To understand better where we are now - especially in the Western Hemisphere-, good help comes from "The Controversy of Zion" by Douglas Reed. Aspects of history not easily found in print elsewhere so well tied together.
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 10:28:37 PM »
How about a brief video of the history of the USSA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Xh5eN2fXY

Two really important articles:

Happy reading.  :)
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 11:59:43 PM »
When I graduated with a degree in History, I thought I knew much about history but as it turns out, I knew nothing since history can be re-written so many times and can be full pack of lies. So, loreta gave excellent starting points:

_ Defying Hitler, by Sebastian Haffner (you can read at Sott.net an extremely important reflexion by Laura about this book and our present historical situation).

_ A distant mirror, the calamitous 14th century, by Barbara W. Tuchman. This book is very interesting and the author makes a very interesting link between our times and the 14th century.... Very impressive.

You have also the book written by Laura and Joe Quinn about 9/11, in fact an historical book also when we think about it, 9/11, The Ultimate Truth. In fact you can start with this one, then you are ready for the rest of the history of humanity... ;) And don't forget The Secret History of the World, by Laura.

I would also suggest Fletcher Prouty's books, Secret Team and JFK, and JFK and the Unspeakable by James W. Douglass. Also, David Ray Griffin's books (The New Pearl Harbor and 911: Omissions and Distortions). Among others...
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 01:08:16 AM »
I think it really depends on what period of history, and location, you want to focus on. I've got a pretty bad history education as well, so reading Secret History for the first time was kind of a nightmare, not knowing who is who. But as for recent history, some good sources have been mentioned. I'd add The Shock Doctrine and Family of Secrets, too.
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 01:26:02 AM »
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but for general USA history, if you're interested, Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" was pretty informative.  He tries to convey the perspectives of oppressed peoples and talks about the exploits of the elites against the populace.  He doesn't take any high strangeness into account, nor psychopathology, but I found it to be well thought out and show, through the use of the same format as mainstream "history" books, a very different perspective than will be found in them.

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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 11:40:05 PM »
A belated thank you to all for your help!
I 'll put everything in my list.I decided to begin with the secret history of the world and with greek modern history together.
Also in sott.net there are numerous articles that can help for a quick update! :)
"You will, Judas, my brother. God will give you the strength, as much as you lack, because it is necessary—it is necessary for me to be killed and for you to betray me. We two must save the world. Help me."
Judas bowed his head. After a moment he asked, "If you had to betray your master, would you do it?"
Jesus reflected for a long time. Finally he said, "No, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to. That is why God pitied me and gave me the easier task: to be crucified."
— Nikos Kazantzakis ,The Last Temptation of Christ

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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2012, 03:11:05 AM »
A belated thank you to all for your help!
I 'll put everything in my list.I decided to begin with the secret history of the world and with greek modern history together.
Also in sott.net there are numerous articles that can help for a quick update! :)
Since you are focusing on the long view, this is helpful as well: http://cassiopaea.org/category/volumes/jupiter-nostradamus-edgar-cayce-and-the-return-of-the-mongols/
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2012, 08:49:24 PM »
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Also I think that the better would be to start with recent historical events (in order to gain ground faster)and then bit by bit add pieces from older times.

Hi Ulysses11, fwiw, another aspect of History must also be, and you will read about these matters in books like were indicated written by Laura and others above, are the views of the overall 'Historization" of matters in whatever country one lives, from ancient pasts to near pasts. Cross reference everything and take nothing on face value - take things (that are generally historically propagated) with a grain of salt. Not sure about going backwards from the present or forward from the past. It would be nice to have a solid foundation on which to build pursuing historical world views in context, but difficult to know what the foundation looks like and it does not seem to resemble what we have been taught.

Have fun! :)
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Re: Seeking suggestions for history books
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 02:41:22 PM »
Hello Ulysses11,
I had wanted to understand "the way things really are" as far as American History and my/our relationship to government. For instance, The US Constitution. Highly technical. What does it say? What does it mean? About 2 years ago, I came across a site ThinkorbeEaten.com. Look for the links to The Informer and James Montgomery, two historical researchers who cite their discoveries well. You'll never see the words democrat or republican here. I do have an audio cd of 20 hours of interviews with The Informer that have helped me in my understanding the way things really are. He does also cite really good sources of history that one can read. I have ordered several of these books from Amazon and also "the interlibrary loan system". You have stated you want the latest books but if you want to find out why things are the way they are today, I would suggest getting older history books. The older, the better. I will recommend three for now and some good sources for legal dictionaries that will help out in a big way.

"The American Admiralty" by Erastus C. Benedict. ( Considered by many to be the authority on Admiralty Law) "War Powers under the Constitution" by William Whiting ( Lincoln's Special War Counsel during the Civil War ). A History of the American Bar by Charles Warren.( Not a Law Book ) To get a good legal dictionary ( I bought Black's Law 8th ed from NYU bookstore, it's garbage compared to the one I recommend ), go to ConstitutionSociety.org and you can download Bouvier's 1856 legal dictionary(free).

I have many more cites if you want but you'll be busy if you follow up with these suggestions.

Happy to help, hope you'll be satisfied.