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SeekinTruth:
Unbelievable! Again, the father who tried to get justice and protect his daughter ends up dead. And the perpetrators go on with their evil crimes??!!! :curse: :curse: :headbash: :barf:

Nienna:

--- Quote from: SeekinTruth on May 03, 2012, 12:22:19 PM ---Unbelievable! Again, the father who tried to get justice and protect his daughter ends up dead. And the perpetrators go on with their evil crimes??!!! :curse: :curse: :headbash: :barf:

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Yes, it is more than maddening. :curse:

cassandra:
How should the father have acted? Did he do the right thing? I would do the same in his place, but I would be much more subtle about it. It would be done quietly.
But is it really OK to deal with psychopaths like this? I've often pondered this question of exactly how to deal with these kinds of people.
What to do with the likes of Marc Detroux and his bosses? Is killing wrong in these cases? I think it better all round to exterminate scum like this to bring about justice and prevent them from harming other innocents, and I am not a bloodthirsty or violent person.
What should be done about the paths?? What would you do if someone did this to your child?

parallel:

--- Quote from: Kniall on May 03, 2012, 10:25:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: clerck de bonk on May 03, 2012, 08:03:47 AM ---...and in whose care is the child now?

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It looks like the state recently kidnapped her on behalf of her mother (who prostituted her to the Lithuanian judge and politicians):

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I can't really discern if they actually took her away from her trusted guardian in that clip or if it was another of the repeated attempts.

--- Quote ---Currently, the girl is going through a really hard time as the District Court of Kėdainiai Region passed the urgent decision to pass the custody of the girl to her biological mother, who was a potential observer of paedophiliac crimes and was inevitably aware of them, and to revoke the custody earlier granted to the sister of the father, Neringa Venckienė. The girl has been living with this custodian for several years, has already become accustomed to her, and there is a truly deep emotional bond between them as well as absolute confidence in each other. Moreover, the girl has been in close relation with the entire family of Neringa Venckienė, i.e. her husband Aidas, cousin Karolis, grandmother and grandfather. She attends the secondary school located not far from the house of the custodian, and has already got accustomed to her class, has got many sincere friends. However, under the urgent decision of the court, she had to be returned to her biological mother within 14 days, even though the mother is a complete stranger to the girl and brings back only bad memories. Having learned the news that she would soon have to move and live with her mother, the girl suffered a psychological shock – at home she felt sick, vomited, screamed, and cried, thus, an ambulance had to be called. Since that day, the court has appointed daily meetings with the biological mother by adding daily two more hours to each meeting; however, the girl refused categorically to attend them and could not be persuaded otherwise. From that moment on, the Services for Protection of the Rights of the

Child of the Republic of Lithuania have been engaged in grotesque moral and spiritual abuse of the girl – every day several psychologists and service employees come to her house trying to convince her to obey the decision of the court and inflicting psychological pressure. Since then, the girl has become exhausted emotionally. She asks her permanent custodian, aunt Venckienė not to give her back to the biological mother; she sleeps together with Neringa Venckienė, and follows her wherever she goes day and night. The girl expressed her will and right to live in the family of the custodian clearly.

Yet the courts of Lithuania and the Services for Protection of the Rights of the Child refuse to pay any attention to the expressed will of the girl and threaten to take her from the house of the custodian by force; as a representative of the services put it: “to bring her out of the house wrapped up in a blanket.”

Thousands of people of Lithuania are watching the tragedy of the little girl with their deepest sympathy. They stand guard near the house where the girl lives, organise pickets near the Lithuanian law enforcement authorities. Unfortunately, the girl still has not received proper understanding, attention, or assistance from the institutions.

Such brutal and rude abuse of children by the Lithuanian law enforcement authorities and the institutions of the rights of the child cannot be justified in any way.

Firstly, this contradicts the right to make decisions of the girl, violates her birthrights and freedom to choose her place of living, affects her dignity, and ruins her personality.

Secondly, the suspicions that the mother of the girl could have participated as an accomplice in the paedophilia case have still not been cleared; this case and other related cases are not yet closed in Lithuania.
 
Thirdly, mother of the girl Laima Stankūnaitė has no clear place of residence, work or income; is guarded by masked security guards unwilling to reveal their identities, and, it is stated, that following

the State Protection Programme, both the mother and the girl will be immediately sent away from the Republic of Lithuania to some foreign country. In other words, the girl will be separated abruptly from her normal environment and the closest people she loves for good.

Fourthly, the girl is a significant and direct witness in the paedophilia case in Lithuania, and it is highly probable that criminal structures may attempt to destroy her together with her mother, who is also the witness of the existence of the paedophilia clan. Therefore, the return of the girl to her biological mother poses a direct threat to her life. The Lithuanian clan of paedophiles and corrupt officers has obviously penetrated the system of state law enforcement and government, and has a great impact on the passing of legal decisions. That is exactly why we are shouting loudly for help “SOS”. Please, help to save the girl. Help to save her life, offer her the necessary protection, and ensure her future. We believe that the transfer of the girl who is the main witness to the persons who allegedly organised and contributed to her sexual abuse will prevent the execution of a fair and fast investigation and will allow the responsible people to escape legal responsibility for their actions. We kindly ask you to take all possible and proper measures to remind the Government of Lithuania of its obligations under the Convention on the Rights of the Child of the UN to ensure the proper investigation in cases of sexual abuse of children, and make the related persons assume responsibility for their actions.
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--- Quote from: cassandra ---How should the father have acted? Did he do the right thing?
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As far as I know it has not been proven that the father did it, and if he did would that have hindered him to be able to take care of his child in the future, then that woiuld have been wrong imo?. It's hard in any event to say murder would be the right decision. Looking past the notion of justice or revenge, even 'killing Hitler' as a hypothetical cure for a ponerized state seems a shortsighted solution, since other 'paths could well take his place. It seems the sharing of the story and awareness is the sensible thing to do. Easy for me to say not being a dad or having been in a similar situation.

SeekinTruth:
SICK!!! The same patterns keep repeating in ALL these cases. Protect the pathological networks, and show NO concern for the victims! Words fail! :( :cry:

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