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pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« on: May 02, 2012, 10:08:06 PM »
Didn't find any mention on this story (from anonymous):

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All the story, about the pedophile scandal in Lithuania.

     The girl was born in 2004. Her father is Drąsius Kedys, and mother – Laima Stankūnaitė. The parents lived together for several years but later got divorced. According to the decision of the court, the custody of the girl was granted to the mother; however, she did not take proper care of her child. Having learned about this, the father decided to bring the child back. The court approved the decision, the mother refused the custody of the girl and the custody was granted to the father. The girl returned to live in the house of her father and saw her mother only rarely. However, she started telling that while living at her mother’s she had been raped by some men, and that her mother Laima Stankūnaitė used to take her to some rented flat, where she had to satisfy sexual needs of three grownup men, had been molested, and sexually abused.

     As soon as Drąsius Kedys learned about this, he immediately referred to the police asking to initiate a preliminary investigation.

The investigation was soon initiated; however, when it turned out what men were being accused of the paedophilia, the investigation was discontinued abruptly and illegally.

One of the named persons was Jonas Furmanavičius, the judge of the Kaunas Regional Court, the second – businessman and politician Andrius Ūsas, and the last one was not identified and was referred to as Aidas by the girl.

     Father Drąsius Kedys submitted more than 200 statements to the Lithuanian law enforcement authorities asking to investigate the case of paedophilia consistently and radically.

Nevertheless, such proper, detailed and honest investigation was not initiated. Finally, on October 5, 2009, Drąsius Kedys was announced missing. On the same day, judge Jonas Furmanavičius and Violeta Naruševičienė, the sister of Laima Stankūnaitė, who, according to Kedys, had also been an alleged accomplice in this procuration case, were shot in Kaunas. Drąsius Kedys was charged publicly with this crime, even though neither his fingerprints on the firearms, nor other facts proving this crime had been detected and confirmed. Drąsius Kedys was also defamed publicly by the press, where he had unduly been blamed for drug abuse and partnership with members of criminal gangs, even though no such things had ever occurred in the life this honourable man and father.

    Potentially corrupt Lithuanian law enforcement authorities did not initiate a detailed investigation of the death case of Drąsius Kedys. In April, 2010, he was found dead – evidently beaten and murdered.

    His body was found near the Kaunas Lagoon. The official version stated that had been drinking and “choked on the contents of his stomach.” However, independent experts confirmed the conclusion that he had been beaten and drowned in the water....

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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 08:03:47 AM »
...and in whose care is the child now?
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 10:25:31 AM »
...and in whose care is the child now?

It looks like the state recently kidnapped her on behalf of her mother (who prostituted her to the Lithuanian judge and politicians):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU9uctKblho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhQa4p62DgA

Her father appears to have been killed a couple of years ago:

Folk hero Kedys, allegedly, found dead
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 11:18:48 AM »
...and in whose care is the child now?
It looks like the state recently kidnapped her on behalf of her mother (who prostituted her to the Lithuanian judge and politicians):
Figures...
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 12:22:19 PM »
Unbelievable! Again, the father who tried to get justice and protect his daughter ends up dead. And the perpetrators go on with their evil crimes??!!! :curse: :curse: :headbash: :barf:
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 02:11:12 PM »
Unbelievable! Again, the father who tried to get justice and protect his daughter ends up dead. And the perpetrators go on with their evil crimes??!!! :curse: :curse: :headbash: :barf:

Yes, it is more than maddening. :curse:
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 02:26:38 PM »
How should the father have acted? Did he do the right thing? I would do the same in his place, but I would be much more subtle about it. It would be done quietly.
But is it really OK to deal with psychopaths like this? I've often pondered this question of exactly how to deal with these kinds of people.
What to do with the likes of Marc Detroux and his bosses? Is killing wrong in these cases? I think it better all round to exterminate scum like this to bring about justice and prevent them from harming other innocents, and I am not a bloodthirsty or violent person.
What should be done about the paths?? What would you do if someone did this to your child?

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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 03:23:14 PM »
...and in whose care is the child now?
It looks like the state recently kidnapped her on behalf of her mother (who prostituted her to the Lithuanian judge and politicians):

I can't really discern if they actually took her away from her trusted guardian in that clip or if it was another of the repeated attempts.
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Currently, the girl is going through a really hard time as the District Court of Kėdainiai Region passed the urgent decision to pass the custody of the girl to her biological mother, who was a potential observer of paedophiliac crimes and was inevitably aware of them, and to revoke the custody earlier granted to the sister of the father, Neringa Venckienė. The girl has been living with this custodian for several years, has already become accustomed to her, and there is a truly deep emotional bond between them as well as absolute confidence in each other. Moreover, the girl has been in close relation with the entire family of Neringa Venckienė, i.e. her husband Aidas, cousin Karolis, grandmother and grandfather. She attends the secondary school located not far from the house of the custodian, and has already got accustomed to her class, has got many sincere friends. However, under the urgent decision of the court, she had to be returned to her biological mother within 14 days, even though the mother is a complete stranger to the girl and brings back only bad memories. Having learned the news that she would soon have to move and live with her mother, the girl suffered a psychological shock – at home she felt sick, vomited, screamed, and cried, thus, an ambulance had to be called. Since that day, the court has appointed daily meetings with the biological mother by adding daily two more hours to each meeting; however, the girl refused categorically to attend them and could not be persuaded otherwise. From that moment on, the Services for Protection of the Rights of the

Child of the Republic of Lithuania have been engaged in grotesque moral and spiritual abuse of the girl – every day several psychologists and service employees come to her house trying to convince her to obey the decision of the court and inflicting psychological pressure. Since then, the girl has become exhausted emotionally. She asks her permanent custodian, aunt Venckienė not to give her back to the biological mother; she sleeps together with Neringa Venckienė, and follows her wherever she goes day and night. The girl expressed her will and right to live in the family of the custodian clearly.

Yet the courts of Lithuania and the Services for Protection of the Rights of the Child refuse to pay any attention to the expressed will of the girl and threaten to take her from the house of the custodian by force; as a representative of the services put it: “to bring her out of the house wrapped up in a blanket.”

Thousands of people of Lithuania are watching the tragedy of the little girl with their deepest sympathy. They stand guard near the house where the girl lives, organise pickets near the Lithuanian law enforcement authorities. Unfortunately, the girl still has not received proper understanding, attention, or assistance from the institutions.

Such brutal and rude abuse of children by the Lithuanian law enforcement authorities and the institutions of the rights of the child cannot be justified in any way.

Firstly, this contradicts the right to make decisions of the girl, violates her birthrights and freedom to choose her place of living, affects her dignity, and ruins her personality.

Secondly, the suspicions that the mother of the girl could have participated as an accomplice in the paedophilia case have still not been cleared; this case and other related cases are not yet closed in Lithuania.
 
Thirdly, mother of the girl Laima Stankūnaitė has no clear place of residence, work or income; is guarded by masked security guards unwilling to reveal their identities, and, it is stated, that following

the State Protection Programme, both the mother and the girl will be immediately sent away from the Republic of Lithuania to some foreign country. In other words, the girl will be separated abruptly from her normal environment and the closest people she loves for good.

Fourthly, the girl is a significant and direct witness in the paedophilia case in Lithuania, and it is highly probable that criminal structures may attempt to destroy her together with her mother, who is also the witness of the existence of the paedophilia clan. Therefore, the return of the girl to her biological mother poses a direct threat to her life. The Lithuanian clan of paedophiles and corrupt officers has obviously penetrated the system of state law enforcement and government, and has a great impact on the passing of legal decisions. That is exactly why we are shouting loudly for help “SOS”. Please, help to save the girl. Help to save her life, offer her the necessary protection, and ensure her future. We believe that the transfer of the girl who is the main witness to the persons who allegedly organised and contributed to her sexual abuse will prevent the execution of a fair and fast investigation and will allow the responsible people to escape legal responsibility for their actions. We kindly ask you to take all possible and proper measures to remind the Government of Lithuania of its obligations under the Convention on the Rights of the Child of the UN to ensure the proper investigation in cases of sexual abuse of children, and make the related persons assume responsibility for their actions.

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How should the father have acted? Did he do the right thing?

As far as I know it has not been proven that the father did it, and if he did would that have hindered him to be able to take care of his child in the future, then that woiuld have been wrong imo?. It's hard in any event to say murder would be the right decision. Looking past the notion of justice or revenge, even 'killing Hitler' as a hypothetical cure for a ponerized state seems a shortsighted solution, since other 'paths could well take his place. It seems the sharing of the story and awareness is the sensible thing to do. Easy for me to say not being a dad or having been in a similar situation.
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 03:41:04 PM »
SICK!!! The same patterns keep repeating in ALL these cases. Protect the pathological networks, and show NO concern for the victims! Words fail! :( :cry:
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 03:24:12 PM »
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 04:30:43 PM »
I think he did the right thing. I don't understand parents who forgive the assassins of their kids. There are two cases in Quebec that shocked me by the attitude of the parents, and let me tell you that the media gave a lot of place of  the forgiveness of the parents. One case is the tragic story of a little girl, I remember her name because I felt very, very sad: Melanie. She was 4 years old and a man took her in the woods, attached her to a tree and the little girl died of hunger. The mother forgave the assassin. The other story is the story of a young couple that were walking in a very big bridge in Montreal, Le Pont Jaques-Cartier, one man was there, and throw the couple outside the bridge. In this story the parents also forgave the assassin of their kids and one of the parents were so "christian" that they went to see the assassin every week in prison, like he was one member of their family. I never understood their attitude and never will.

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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 05:19:19 PM »
It has never actually been proven that Drasius Kedys killed the judges. As far as I can make out, he went missing on the same day as the two judges were shot, then turned up dead months later showing signs of severe torture. The government version said he drowned in a reservoir after getting drunk while being "on the run" and hiding out in a forest. With Kedys out of the way, it was easy for the Lithuanian government to simply proclaim that he was the killer.

The kind of activity Kedys was involved in at the time of his disappearance - investigating high-level pedophilia, sending evidence to hundreds of MEPs, carefully interviewing his daughter, taking her to numerous specialists and so on - suggests to me that he was very disciplined in channelling his rage, that he was a man on a mission and that he was just getting warmed up. Why would he throw it all away by doing something rash that would only guarantee he would never again see the daughter he loved?

This case has similarities with the case of Marcel Vervloesem, the Belgian man who exposed the Zandvoort File, among other post-Dutroux connections. He was framed on child molestation charges, of all things. The teenaged girls who testified against him later retracted their statements, saying that they had accepted large sums of money to do so. Too late, said the Belgian state; the law must run its course. Vervloesem is currently dying of cancer in the psychiatric wing of a Belgian prison.

http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/2010/04/20/folk-hero-kedys-allegedly-found-dead/

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/245038-Pedophile-Network-in-Lithuania-Drasius-Kedys-Case-Keeps-Escalating

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/245042-Pedophile-scandal-in-Lithuania-Judges-and-Politicians-Implicated
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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 08:19:49 PM »
This is, apparently, how they deal with pedophiles in Yemen:

Looking at that guy's face, he just really does not look like a raping/murdering/body-slicing barber. I know looks can be deceiving - and that this is just my opinion - but the expression on his face looks more like he has simply accepted that this is how it is going to be and nothing can be done to change it now.

The article also implies that perhaps all was not right with this particular case:

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A man accused of raping and murdering
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He was given the death penalty by a Yemeni court a month later after apparently admitting his crime.
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The deeply religious desert country has a poor human rights record and it is unclear if the barber had a fair trial.

Given the historical patterns, one almost wonders if he was a patsy for someone else far more influential/rich/elite.

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Re: pedophile scandal in Lithuania
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 09:55:29 PM »

About the Yemen article:


Maybe he was guilty, maybe not. What I see is a critic of this country, like: see, how savages they are. The fact is war is killing millions of people and nobody say nothing. The article is subjective, employing words to make you doubt if the man was guilty. It is an article that manipulates the reader. It is almost a propaganda article against Muslims: they live like in the Middle Age (or when the guillotine was legal in France, not so long ago, but people forget...). I don't like this type of information, it makes me doubt of anything. Is it real what we see? Are those picture real?
I am now so skeptic.  :(

There is a sentence in the article that is strange:
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Hopefully, soon Britain will bring back the death penalty.

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