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Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« on: May 10, 2012, 05:39:53 AM »
Not sure what to make of it, need some guidance and advice. I am pretty shaken up by this night’s events.

I am home alone with my 4,5 year old son. Putting him to sleep, read him some books and he asked me to stay with him for a little. All of the sudden, he becomes restless. I tell him he needs to settle down – he looks at me, his lips start trembling and tells me that he doesn’t really like me. I ask ‘What’s wrong?’ He tells me – ‘you are not my real mom’. ‘Of course I am, honey!’ – ‘No, you are not! I am not from here. I am from another planet. My real mom is on that planet’. And he starts crying. Really crying, not just make-believe crying. He gets up, says that he needs to get out of here, he needs to go home, to his planet, to his mom. He tells me he is from Mars. I try to calm him down, assure him that I am his real mom. And the poor thing just shakes his head, cries hysterical and tells me that I am nobody, his mom is on another planet and he wants to go home to his mom. When I try to get more details form him, he tells me that he fell from his planet into Earth and got into my belly when I was on a sandy beach and “covered up”, that he came to me because he “didn’t know any better”. He tells me that his brain is bigger than human brain and that’s how he remembers, he just knows things. He uses phrases and language and making gestures that are not typical for him. This ordeal lasts about 15 minutes. Finally, I decided that I am not going to pretend not to take it seriously – I know he is my son, I know who I am; I started giggling and said ‘Are you messing with me? Are you being silly, baby?’ at this point it’s like someone pulled a switch and he was back. He giggled with me. Hugged me, told me some story about what happened at his school today and fell asleep in a minute – he just passed out exhausted. I am all shaken up, go to the living room, and feel like there is someone behind me, like they can just put their hand on my shoulder. I can’t shake off the feeling that there is someone here. I try to turn the TV on to put some background noise, and it’s not working (was working just fine an hour ago). I go out on a patio to have a cigarette and that “someone” is still there, right behind me. All of the sudden I just say “Get out! GET OUT! LEAVE US ALONE!” And I felt better. Went back to the living room, try to turn the TV and it’s working fine. Not sure what to make of this whole thing, but I am pretty bent out of shape right now.

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 06:35:12 AM »
Firefly, I don't know how to interpret your son's behavior, I wonder if he watched something related to aliens from Mars recently and/or if indeed was playing a prank on you. Could the feeling of the presence be related to the shock from the experience you had with your son?

I think the best thing to do is some pipe-breathing and the meditation tonight. It will help you recover from feeling shaken-up and also add protection from anything negative. Maybe tomorrow you can ask your son in a curious/playful kind of way, what was that all about? Just to see what he says and how he says it?

Those are my immediate thoughts, fwiw.
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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 06:45:27 AM »
Alana, thank you for your reply! I needed some support! I am pretty vigilant about my son watching TV - he watches very little and it's only "parent approved" stuff :). What scared me the most is the fact that he was "gone" during this experience. We have a very close bond and at his age he doesn't really know how to lie yet. He can tell little lies and it's always pretty obvious. But he was hysterical! I am trying to write it off as him being tired maybe. And also, the fact that he "snapped out" of it as if it never happened. It's like I didn't know who he was for 15 minutes. Pretty scary. Good suggestion on pipe breathing - will definitely do it before going to sleep.

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 07:39:51 AM »
Wow. That is a heavy story. I have some ideas, but please discard anything you do not find helpful.

It sounds to me like he had a partial "thinning of the veil". That is, he may be remembering a past life that we normally forget while we are here.

If suddenly one of my children made these claims, I think that I would tell them that this may be a real memory, but an old one. "Maybe long ago, you had a different mommy and lived in a different place. We can talk about that later if you want. But right now you are living here, this is your home, and we are your mommy and daddy now." I would probably try to calm him or her down by asking ordinary details about the previous life and comparing with how things are now. ("Is the food different? What do you do for fun? Did you go to school? What was your day like?") And maybe if I felt bold, "Did you do what you wanted to?"

I understand if you feel these suggestions are inappropriate for your case. These are just my ideas if I had to deal with the situation.

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 07:44:27 AM »
I don't know what to make of the whole thing either, Firefly. But I agree that pipe breathing and meditation will help you.
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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 09:06:20 AM »
Wow. That is a heavy story. I have some ideas, but please discard anything you do not find helpful.

It sounds to me like he had a partial "thinning of the veil". That is, he may be remembering a past life that we normally forget while we are here.

If suddenly one of my children made these claims, I think that I would tell them that this may be a real memory, but an old one. "Maybe long ago, you had a different mommy and lived in a different place. We can talk about that later if you want. But right now you are living here, this is your home, and we are your mommy and daddy now." I would probably try to calm him or her down by asking ordinary details about the previous life and comparing with how things are now. ("Is the food different? What do you do for fun? Did you go to school? What was your day like?") And maybe if I felt bold, "Did you do what you wanted to?"

I understand if you feel these suggestions are inappropriate for your case. These are just my ideas if I had to deal with the situation.

Kids have a lot of imagination, can create imaginary worlds, believe in them... Or also "see" things that we adults can not. Me too, like curious_richard if that happened with children I know I will enter in their realms of imagination and try to understand their vision. (This remember when my grand-mother was sure that some witches were coming in her house: others members of the family though that she was crazy and refused to listen to her but I listened to her and asked her to talk about the witches and explain to me what they were doing in her house.) Kids and old people are very similar with their imagination and the best thing to do, I think, is just listen and accepting what they say and I think just to be listened is calming for them. Surely he was sincere in his words, like we believe in a story we read or see.
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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 09:25:02 AM »
And apart from what everyone else has suggested, keep an eye on the way to raise your son's FRV, in whatever way that it could be possible for a kid. Just in case. If there was a real entity around (not saying that it was, but keep all possibilties under your radar), raising its FRV would make it harder to influence your kid imho.




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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 09:34:15 AM »
And apart from what everyone else has suggested, keep an eye on the way to raise your son's FRV, in whatever way that it could be possible for a kid. Just in case. If there was a real entity around (not saying that it was, but keep all possibilties under your radar), raising its FRV would make it harder to influence your kid imho.





what is FRV ?

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 09:52:00 AM »
Quote from: Pashalis
what is FRV ?

Frequency Resonance Vibration
"All there is is Lessons." "Knowledge Protects, Ignorance Endangers." - Cassiopaeans

I can think of this network-group as a second, adopted family. I can think of Laura and Ark as the "parents" of this rather large family with all our amusing foibles. Occasionally there will be a "falling out;" a certain member may leave the family. But life goes on... and we all continue learning our lessons.

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 10:02:26 AM »
Quote from: Pashalis
what is FRV ?

Frequency Resonance Vibration

Thanks SeekinTruth
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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 11:04:28 AM »
Gosh, that is an intense story Firefly and not surprised you felt bent out of shape. It's a tricky situation as children of that age obviously have incredible imaginations but personally I'd never be inclined to dismiss anything a child says as pure fantasy. I suppose if anything similar happens again, it's a case of just trying to be as calm as possible, and casually engaging in the conversation regarding the where's, how's and why's of what your child is saying, making him feel safe but being inquisitive at the same time.

I had a not totally dissimilar episode with my own son who is nearly six a few weeks back. We were chatting casually in my bedroom and he turned to me and said 'Dad, sometimes I can see things that other people can't'. I just said 'oh right, what sort of things then?'. He told me that earlier that day when he was getting a lift back from my in-laws that he saw a 'flying car' above his Grandad's van that he was in. I asked him what it looked like and he said it was 'silvery white' but had no wheels. I asked him if he could tell me anything else about it but he couldn't. I told him that it was certainly possible that people sometimes can see things that other people can't but didn't make a big deal about it.

I asked him if there was anything else he'd seen that other's couldn't and he told me that he'd seen a 'clown that wasn't really there' in a bouncy castle at the Saturday fete that we'd been at the week before. I was mildly disturbed by both these things but didn't show it and I think the important thing was that the conversation was very relaxed and felt 'safe'. OSIT

Anyway, hope you've managed to do some pipe breathing and are feeling better  :flowers:

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 12:52:29 PM »
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It sounds to me like he had a partial "thinning of the veil". That is, he may be remembering a past life that we normally forget while we are here.

I agree this sounds like the most likely scenario.  I think too often childrens'  perceptions of reality are dismissed as "imagination," often to their detriment.  I have read in several places and witnessed myself that children up to about the age of 6 or 7 often can recall what sounds like legitimate past life experiences and see what older children and adults cannot.  By 6 or 7 most children are "acculturated," trained to see what their culture says is real and lose the ability to see that which exists beyond the limits of perception we have been trained to recognize.

Pai's and curious richard's advice sound solid to me--acknowledge your son's truth and guide him to being present to this reality and time.

There is another thread discussing how much information and how to present to children need to raise the FRV and gain the protection that knowledge can give.  Search for it--I think it might help and you will find information that will likely benefit your self and strengthen your own protection also.
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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 01:32:42 PM »
Psychic attack can have many forms. It was one.
It is possible that your child has some hidden abilities, like lucid dreams and cannot control his state, which can be used by other entities.

I had 2 times night expirience when I suddently shouted Get OUT to someone I didnt even see. Some altered state of mind (semi-sleep/semi-concious) was before it.

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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 01:37:47 PM »
I had a similar experience with one of my children at a very young age. What I did was just repeat over and over: "I know, it's hard, but you are here now and I'm going to be your mom now and everything will be okay because I love you too."

Then, of course, there was the experience with my son and his past life that was recounted in Tom French's article in the St. Pete Times and I wrote a follow-up to it.  See:

http://www.sptimes.com/News/webspecials/exorcist/index.html

http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/14/a-case-suggestive-of-reincarnation/

I don't think it is a good idea to make fun of these things.  The best way to calm a child down, for future, is to ask questions, get details, write them down. 

This was probably not a psychic attack, just a garbled past life memory with some modern TV stuff overlaid.
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Falls drop by drop upon the heart,
And in our own despair, against our will,
Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
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Re: Need some advise - VERY strange thing happened tonight
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 02:34:15 PM »
Thank you all so much for your replies and your support! I was doing exactly what you advised - I never questioned his story, never told him to stop it or cut it out. I kept asking questions while being supporting  - that's how I got the details out of him. First, I started asking 'Why do you think I am not your mommy, honey?' and then he kept insisting that he needs to get back home, I tried to stay calm and ask, how will he get there? I asked him if we can sleep on it tonight and not go anywhere. Kept telling him how much I loved him, that I will always love him and take care of him, no matter what. And when he was sobbing, I was just hugging him and kept saying 'I know, honey, I know". I was never making fun of the situation, but by me giggling and talking to him in a silly voice (like we always do to each other) brought him back. It's like he needed to hear something that connected him to me, reminded him of me.