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Offline LQB

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Re: Electromagnetic radiation and its effect on the brain
« Reply #255 on: July 20, 2011, 03:32:13 AM »
Thanks for the explanation drygol.  :)  By the way, if you haven't read it yet, below is an article about Wifi utility meters. Was surprised to find out that it had been implemented in New Zealand as well.  :scared:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207400-The-Scandal-of-PG-E-s-New-Meters

Can't see this article anymore on SOTT.

Was it similar to this one?

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/205650-Smart-meters-flaws-aid-hacking

Here's a short video on the smart meter that shows how to identify it: http://solari.com/blog/?p=12418  (Catherine Fitts site)
The only thing that seems to offer a way out is simply to observe the phenomena and compare the perceptions with a lot of other folks and try to narrow down the "constant" that is present in all of them.  In this way, we can have a closer idea of what the Third Man REALLY is, and what he is REALLY doing, and what then, should be our best response.  And, of course, "observing phenomena" means, in its most literal sense, to gain and gather knowledge of every form and sort so that one has a sufficient database from which to draw conclusions about observations of one's environment.

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Re: Electromagnetic radiation and its effect on the brain
« Reply #256 on: July 20, 2011, 02:18:52 PM »
Thanks for the explanation drygol.  :)  By the way, if you haven't read it yet, below is an article about Wifi utility meters. Was surprised to find out that it had been implemented in New Zealand as well.  :scared:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207400-The-Scandal-of-PG-E-s-New-Meters

Can't see this article anymore on SOTT.


You can read it at that address:

_http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2010-04-23/article/35120?headline=The-Scandal-of-PG-E-s-New-Meters
Every time you say "yes" to someone who doesn't deserve it, and go against Yourself and what you value the most, you kill a small part of your essence. LKJ

And tell your friend to quit torturing you with trying to force it down your throat!  There are people whose job it is to just be sweet, loving and caring and it is the job of warriors to look after them.  It's that simple. LKJ

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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #257 on: July 20, 2011, 09:48:00 PM »
Thanks, LQB, Gandalf!
I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens who, reading newspapers, live and die in the belief that they have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time [...] General facts may indeed be collected from them [...] but no details can be relied on. He who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false. [Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Norvell, 1807]

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Re: Cheap, safe drug kills most cancers
« Reply #258 on: August 07, 2011, 07:46:08 PM »
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn10971


Cheap, safe drug kills most cancers

    * 11:58 17 January 2007
    * From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.
    * Andy Coghlan

What makes cancer cells different - and how to kill them
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What makes cancer cells different - and how to kill them
 

It sounds almost too good to be true: a cheap and simple drug that kills almost all cancers by switching off their “immortality� . The drug, dichloroacetate (DCA), has already been used for years to treat rare metabolic disorders and so is known to be relatively safe.


Came across this DCA update being worked on @ the UoA: of course the question of funding is ever present as there is hardly a penny to be made by the Pharma group(s) and thus our illustrious Cancer, so called Societies, just keep sending their 'collected people's money', based on the fears and suffering anguishes of people, to all the usual places.   :mad:


CTV - Video - _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ifXxbxhZc&feature=related


Quote from: New Scientist by Andy Coghlan

Cheap, 'safe' drug kills most cancers

    Updated 13:31 17 May 2011

New Scientist has received an unprecedented amount of interest in this story from readers. If you would like up-to-date information on any plans for clinical trials of DCA in patients with cancer, or would like to donate towards a fund for such trials, please visit the site set up by the University of Alberta and the Alberta Cancer Board. We will also follow events closely and will report any progress as it happens.

Update, 16 May 2011: If you've just heard about this story, please read this recent update too.

Article originally published online 17 January 2007:

It sounds almost too good to be true: a cheap and simple drug that kills almost all cancers by switching off their "immortality". The drug, dichloroacetate (DCA), has already been used for years to treat rare metabolic disorders and so is known to be relatively safe.

It also has no patent, meaning it could be manufactured for a fraction of the cost of newly developed drugs.

Evangelos Michelakis of the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, and his colleagues tested DCA on human cells cultured outside the body and found that it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells, but not healthy cells. Tumours in rats deliberately infected with human cancer also shrank drastically when they were fed DCA-laced water for several weeks.

DCA attacks a unique feature of cancer cells: the fact that they make their energy throughout the main body of the cell, rather than in distinct organelles called mitochondria. This process, called glycolysis, is inefficient and uses up vast amounts of sugar.

Until now it had been assumed that cancer cells used glycolysis because their mitochondria were irreparably damaged. However, Michelakis's experiments prove this is not the case, because DCA reawakened the mitochondria in cancer cells. The cells then withered and died (Cancer Cell, DOI: 10.1016/j.ccr.2006.10.020).

Michelakis suggests that the switch to glycolysis as an energy source occurs when cells in the middle of an abnormal but benign lump don't get enough oxygen for their mitochondria to work properly (see diagram). In order to survive, they switch off their mitochondria and start producing energy through glycolysis.

Crucially, though, mitochondria do another job in cells: they activate apoptosis, the process by which abnormal cells self-destruct. When cells switch mitochondria off, they become "immortal", outliving other cells in the tumour and so becoming dominant. Once reawakened by DCA, mitochondria reactivate apoptosis and order the abnormal cells to die.

"The results are intriguing because they point to a critical role that mitochondria play: they impart a unique trait to cancer cells that can be exploited for cancer therapy," says Dario Altieri, director of the University of Massachusetts Cancer Center in Worcester.

The phenomenon might also explain how secondary cancers form. Glycolysis generates lactic acid, which can break down the collagen matrix holding cells together. This means abnormal cells can be released and float to other parts of the body, where they seed new tumours.

DCA can cause pain, numbness and gait disturbances in some patients, but this may be a price worth paying if it turns out to be effective against all cancers. The next step is to run clinical trials of DCA in people with cancer. These may have to be funded by charities, universities and governments: pharmaceutical companies are unlikely to pay because they can't make money on unpatented medicines. The pay-off is that if DCA does work, it will be easy to manufacture and dirt cheap.

Paul Clarke, a cancer cell biologist at the University of Dundee in the UK, says the findings challenge the current assumption that mutations, not metabolism, spark off cancers. "The question is: which comes first?" he says.

"When the passions of the past blend with the prejudices of the present, human reality is reduced to a picture of black and white."
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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #259 on: August 29, 2011, 09:42:02 PM »
Hi all, my grandpa has lung cancer stage 3 I think. They area planning on doing chemo first.

I've tried to drop some hints like "sugar eats cancer" and he said he tried to eat less sugar. But he mentioned artificial sugars like nutrasweet and splenda, heh. I'm not sure he or my grandma would be open to alternative options. And I don't think they would totally understand the data, especially given programming.

I was thinking about emailing my sister a bunch of links and videos from here. She is studying in the health field. So I think my family would take some info better coming from her. But I've decided to wait and network first. The info I was specifically thinking about sharing was the sugar connection, chemo, Vit. C, Baking soda, DCA, and the corruption of cancer research.

I think I have some kind of, "I must give this info because I have access to it and they don't know about the bad science of medicine." program. I realize I may be trying to choose for him and not respect free will. I was wondering if sharing those links with my sister would be a good idea, considering there's an underlying thought of, "Maybe she can convince them to do something alternative." Thanks for reading.

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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #260 on: August 29, 2011, 09:55:40 PM »
Sorry to hear this 3D student.  It's hard to know what can help and not be able to share it but such is life.
Is your sister open to health info outside of the mainstream?  If not, it is highly unlilely that she would advocate for something she doesn't believe in...or knows little about for that matter.

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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #261 on: August 30, 2011, 05:26:00 AM »
Hi all, my grandpa has lung cancer stage 3 I think. They area planning on doing chemo first.

I've tried to drop some hints like "sugar eats cancer" and he said he tried to eat less sugar. But he mentioned artificial sugars like nutrasweet and splenda, heh. I'm not sure he or my grandma would be open to alternative options. And I don't think they would totally understand the data, especially given programming.

I was thinking about emailing my sister a bunch of links and videos from here. She is studying in the health field. So I think my family would take some info better coming from her. But I've decided to wait and network first. The info I was specifically thinking about sharing was the sugar connection, chemo, Vit. C, Baking soda, DCA, and the corruption of cancer research.

I think I have some kind of, "I must give this info because I have access to it and they don't know about the bad science of medicine." program. I realize I may be trying to choose for him and not respect free will. I was wondering if sharing those links with my sister would be a good idea, considering there's an underlying thought of, "Maybe she can convince them to do something alternative." Thanks for reading.

You might offer up a few key papers (in mainstream format) lightly (ask for her opinion) or in a off-hand way, and see if anything develops.  If it does, you can go from there. An example might be:

Nutrients and Cancer:
An Introduction to Cesium Therapy
H. E. SARTORI, M.D. (1984)
Pharmacology, Biochemistry & Behavior. Vol. 21. Suppl. I, pp. 7 - 10. 1984.

This one is a good intro to alternative treatments and has spurred many on to more research.
The only thing that seems to offer a way out is simply to observe the phenomena and compare the perceptions with a lot of other folks and try to narrow down the "constant" that is present in all of them.  In this way, we can have a closer idea of what the Third Man REALLY is, and what he is REALLY doing, and what then, should be our best response.  And, of course, "observing phenomena" means, in its most literal sense, to gain and gather knowledge of every form and sort so that one has a sufficient database from which to draw conclusions about observations of one's environment.

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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #262 on: August 31, 2011, 12:18:21 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I talked to her today and she doesn't seem interested or have the time. It seems she has faith in her mainstream studies and doesn't want to veer away from established authority. And she agreed that our family wouldn't really want to hear about it either. She also said we shouldn't take this into our hands.

So I think I will stop my savior syndrome. I also had a program of being right and justifying my health actions running. It's kind of hard to read Primal Body Primal Mind with about all the bad stuff sugar does knowing it's poisoning your family and nearly everyone else.

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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #263 on: May 17, 2012, 10:58:02 PM »
Interesting research here showing that vitamin c can is a good pretreatment therapy for radiation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbm_MH3nSdM
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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #264 on: May 19, 2012, 07:57:38 AM »
Interesting research here showing that vitamin c can is a good pretreatment therapy for radiation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbm_MH3nSdM

Thanks for the link, good discussion by those trying to make a difference with health information for people, yet as the one physician states after sending out 150 press releases, there were no calls, no interest - the fear of saying anything against Tepco is like speaking against the emperor of old, not many dare.
"When the passions of the past blend with the prejudices of the present, human reality is reduced to a picture of black and white."
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Re: C is for Cancer
« Reply #265 on: October 09, 2012, 10:45:52 PM »
Just a heads up that Sean Croxton host of the Paleo Summit and Real food Summits, both of which were mentioned in the Ketogenic Diet and Life without Bread threads, is now hosting the Healing Cancer World Summit starting on the 31st of October.

I have enjoyed both his previous summits. True, some guests are misinformed or uninformed, but I have mostly found the summits useful, both by consolidating material already researched here, as well as shedding a light on a few things I wasn't aware of.

Because they're audio I've found them to be a good complement for reading, specially when I'm doing things that make me bored like longer periods of cleaning the house. They have actually turned a cleaning hour into something enjoyable  :)
I don't know how this one will turn out though. I plan to listen to it and will report back on what I found.

Link here: _https://s3.amazonaws.com/cancerworldsummit.com/index-launch-day.html

An excerpt from the page:

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Now for 5 Nights, You Can Learn the Secrets I Learned from These Visionary Cancer Doctors and Advocates for FREE!

If you want to learn more about what I've learned in my own exploration of natural or integrative cancer treatment, I want to invite you to a special free online event, where you can listen (at home, no travel needed) to the stories of these amazing people as they share the natural cancer treatments that are working in their clinics around the world.

Each expert will explain specifically the ways to prevent cancer naturally and the treatments they use when they work with cancer patients. This is not theory. I've specifically selected people who are working in clinics and researching cutting edge scientific documents to determine what really works.

This event is FREE, because I wanted to give back to you. It's my hope that this information spreads so that other families don't have to go through what ours did.


In this unique program you'll Also discover...

    The therapies these doctors and experts are using that they say can prevent and even treat cancers naturally.
    The cancer fighting herbs and supplements that are scientifically known to prevent cancer - many of which you can buy in your local supermarket (no matter where you live!)
    Scientific and documented proof that natural cancer treatments work and why.
    Learn how to detoxify and cleanse the body naturally... and safely.
    Why many people have no idea these treatments exist and why these doctors are risking their careers to do help people heal.
    Amazing stories of patients who have been healed naturally and are still thriving today.
    How - in some cases - drugs, chemotherapy, surgery and radiation can cause side effects that may be worse than the cancer itself.
    Simple and affordable ways to prevent cancer and many other diseases using natural, tested methods.
    And much more!


I think that a keto diet combined with stress management techniques such as EE can likely go a long way in cancer prevention. In any case, right now the rates of cancer have gone through the roof, which begs a continuous research for what is already there and keep looking for cures.