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Bad feelings about Urbansurvival and George Ure

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RflctnOfU:
I think George Ure is well meaning, but mostly clueless.  His main thing is his 'portfolio'...and how to profit from the 'crash'.  Incidentally, I sent a link to the original 'beyond the dutroux affair...etc' to him and a couple of other 'news' sites 4 or 5 days ago.  I didn't even get a "you're crazy" email.  No posting on these, dare I call them, "infotainment" sites.  Sad...really sad.

Kris

LQB:
I agree with everyone's comments in general. In particular, I think he has been "losing it" over the last 6 months or so. There also seems to be some fear creeping into the background of his words - like he is trying out methods of staying under increasingly sensitive radar. There really isn't much worth looking at anymore.

Patrick:
Clif High (Ure partner in time) update:

I read High's sometimes ranty carryings-on and listen to his audios for mental filing with a wait-and-see attitude. He describes himself as "an old bald guy" trying to do his best, and that seems to me to be the case.  Anyway, High's latest audio discusses his belief that a remote viewing experiment by Courtney Brown's FarSight outfit explains a heretofore mysterious 'data-gap' in the ongoing WebBot Alta reports appearing for several years.

Courtney Brown comes up in a forum search of 'farsight' with these two hits containing the most information:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,5.msg5446.html#msg5446
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,19150.msg184736.html#msg184736

Remote viewing in general is discussed at some length in this session with the C's:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26593.msg319795.html#msg319795

Briefly, Brown's experiment that has High stirred up is this: two future timelines are remote-viewed in 2013, one a timeline in which traditional views hold sway and the other a timeline in which RV and ETs are accepted openly by the scientific community (T/L A & T/L B).  Both timeline results seem predictive of 2013 disasters by meteor strikes or some similar devastation producing event with somewhat less damage predicted for B.

Here's the page that fully explains the experiment and contains an 18 minute video of Brown:
_http://www.farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html  [link deactivated by moderator]

 
An excerpt from the page lists some governments' actions/inactions both odd and seemingly far from interconnected but which, when considered together, could indicate a Powers That Be awareness of a near-term global disaster:


--- Quote ---1.The U.S. Space Shuttle will launch its last mission in mid-2011. At that time, NASA is entirely abandoning its government-funded manned spaceflight program. Given the investment that the U.S. has made in launching humans into space since the 1960s, this is odd, especially since private efforts to launch humans into space are years away, and currently unproven. It is as if the government does not anticipate being able to launch humans into space in the near future for reasons not currently stated.

2.The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is being sealed in 2011. This will allow the world to restart agriculture given a global catastrophe. The United Nations formally inspected the facility, which might seem odd for a Norwegian project. The timing of this project seems like a strange coincidence.

3.U.S. and global debt. It is as if various governments are not expecting to have to pay back their debts, perhaps anticipating a global economic reset due to reasons not currently stated.

4.The devaluing of the U.S. dollar seems to be a trend that will stay. Moody, Standard and Poor, and Fitch have announced that they may be devaluing the rating of U.S. Treasury bonds (see NY Times article, 15 March 2010, as well as the editorial on 20 March 2010), and there have been discussions within the United Nations of the International Monetary Fund phasing out its dependency on the U.S. dollar. The governments seem to be acting as if the U.S. dollar will be replaced as the global currency.

5.Digging, digging is everywhere. The U.S. has no nuclear enemies, yet it is digging huge underground facilities in inhospitable regions difficult for the masses to reach. Why? On the other hand, the Chinese tend to think collectively, and China is digging extraordinary subway complexes under most of its major cities in a crash program that seems odd in terms of timing and scope. See, for example, the NY Times article by Keith Bradsher, 27 March 2009. Subways are, of course, conveniently located underground tunnels, and such tunnels could house millions of people in an emergency. Russia announced in 2011 that it is adding 5,000 new nuclear bomb shelters in Moscow, enabling it to protect all of Moscow's residents. The program is to be rushed so that it is finished in 2012. Why? Russia has no nuclear enemies. Russia's new subway systems have also been placed deeper than needed so that they can be used as deep emergency shelters. Again, why? Why all these preparations, and why the rush?

6.NASA is now predicting that the Sun may generate unprecedented solar storms for a lengthy period in 2012-13. We cannot accurately predict Earth's normal weather a week in advance, and it is by no means clear how NASA can do this with respect unprecedented weather on the Sun years in advance. They are saying that we are more dependent on vulnerable computer technology now. But we had similar dependencies in 2001 and 1990 when previous 11-year solar cycles hit. What is different about the current cycle? Some might suggest that NASA is acting as if it has some extra information that is not currently stated.
--- End quote ---



High's WebBot reports have predicted a 'global coastal event' for some time, and he's of the opinion that meteor strikes fit his data and PTB knowledge of same explain the seemingly irrational international paralysis regarding the Fukushima mess.

Here's a brief transcript (errors, if any, mine and inadvertent) of some of High's closing comments:


--- Quote ---"[...]The experiment that Courtney Brown did is validated by our work insofar as the data gap and it also validates our work insofar as the global coastal event[...]

"[...]This makes everything make sense; no wonder the powers that Be don't give a rat's ass about Fukushimia.  No wonder there's not a global effort to cap that thing and kick the Japanese into getting out of the way and letting us clean it up.  No wonder we're not trying to rescue the global economy, no wonder blah blah...it just doesn't matter.  Anything that the power elite are doing that makes no sense in terms of ****ing over the planet now all makes sense: they need not care because it's gonna happen before June of 2013.  So the supposition in fact...we have a lot of stuff in our data that says that the power elite were gonna start disappearing from public site right around the election time within the populace USA, so when Hillary is simply not seen and somebody says in February, 'hmm, we haven't seen Hillary and her ilk here in the last couple of months, wonder where that...(Hillary)... is', well, by then she'll be in her hidey-hole, and within a short period of time you'll see plasma events in the sky, giant static waves will come through and destroy cell towers and so on[...]"
--- End quote ---

High then refers to a "Rand report or government report a couple of years ago" re: natural disaster of meteors in which "the Americas would take up to 1200 impacts."

Neil:
This experiment has already been discussed in some detail on this forum here. http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,19150.msg253276.html#msg253276

Personally, I think that the interview was interesting and worth listening to if you want a more detailed  and organized overview of the experiment than what is available on his site, but it is really nothing new. It just suggests to me again that Clif is pretty behind the curve. It's funny that things SOTT/QFS was running years ago are just now coming out into the "alternative" community. Now all of the sudden that Kerry Cassidy is talking about it, it's a big deal.

I think the reason the community here is sensing that these people are "losing it" is because they are pretty firmly plugged in to disinformation networks. Judging by what Clif writes about and who he associates with, he is pretty much encapsulated by the PTB, even if he is not an agent himself. They know what he and George read and who they listen to. Whenever they want to start a meme they just have their agents start disseminating something and it usually takes quasi-independent researchers like Clif along for the ride. I don't think this particular interview was disinfo, for the most part, but there may be an effort to spin it later.

From what I gathered from the Transcripts, Courtney seems to be playing both sides of the middle, perhaps hoping that he can leak enough information to create some kind of critical mass, while also not trying to rock the boat too much with the PTB and maintain some degree of comfortable existence. I think his primary motivation is to get himself validated by the mainstream, judging by the somewhat ridiculous parameters he set for his alternate timelines. If there really is a cometary disaster in 2013, his work will probably generate a lot of interest if there is anybody left to care.

One thing that kind of irked me about Clifs reports was the lack of anything mentioned about comets. Now suddenly he has reinterpreted the whole thing thanks to Kerry Cassidy (and really Laura was way ahead on this one, but I guess she doesn't have enough money and backers to be considered "important"). While it might give his reports a bit more reliability, it shows how susceptible they are to his interpretations, which are usually way off base. Once you remove the interpretations, all you are left with is a few general themes that anyone who is paying attention to what is happening in the world could come up with; no thousands of dollars worth of computer equipment or fancy analytics required. Clif is very entertaining to listen to, and his underlying data may have some validity if you can ever drill down to it, but by and large I see him as somewhat intellectual infotainment.

So to wrap this up, interesting interview, the experiment seems to be a good example of the scientific approach to mysticism, but it is really nothing new to us here.

Nienna:

--- Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2012, 01:19:23 AM ---(and really Laura was way ahead on this one, but I guess she doesn't have enough money and backers to be considered "important").

--- End quote ---

Not only is it that Laura does not have the money that some of these others do, the most important thing - and why she doesn't have the money - is that Laura cannot be bought - or controlled.  Once that was found out, and that she recognized the pathology and psychopathy with these individuals, she has been defamed or ignored by all of them.

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