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Father Kills Pedophile Molesting his Daughter
Mac:
I've thinking about this story the past few days. Of course, we will never know what the full circumstances were. The father was likely trapped in his own programs as are we all.
My first impulse on reading the story was, if I came upon a crime like that, yeah, I would want to take a ball bat to the guy. Like stomping a roach in the kitchen.
But, as Laura points out, this would further traumatize the child. Not only had she been brutally used but she will have witnessed someone violently killed as well. Plus she might loose her dad as well if he is sent to prison. Killing the perpetrator on the spot could be indulging ones own anger rather than helping the child in a moment of great need.
If one could hold ones anger and outrage, the first thing would be to comfort the child beginning the process of helping her heal. Try to keep her from blaming herself for what happened. She needs to be loved and accepted in this moment.
Then relate to the authorities what happened. Hopefully, this piece of filth would be put away for awhile where he couldn't harm another child. But you never know these days.
Mac
loreta:
--- Quote from: Mac on June 14, 2012, 01:16:32 PM ---I've thinking about this story the past few days. Of course, we will never know what the full circumstances were. The father was likely trapped in his own programs as are we all.
My first impulse on reading the story was, if I came upon a crime like that, yeah, I would want to take a ball bat to the guy. Like stomping a roach in the kitchen.
But, as Laura points out, this would further traumatize the child. Not only had she been brutally used but she will have witnessed someone violently killed as well. Plus she might loose her dad as well if he is sent to prison. Killing the perpetrator on the spot could be indulging ones own anger rather than helping the child in a moment of great need.
If one could hold ones anger and outrage, the first thing would be to comfort the child beginning the process of helping her heal. Try to keep her from blaming herself for what happened. She needs to be loved and accepted in this moment.
Then relate to the authorities what happened. Hopefully, this piece of filth would be put away for awhile where he couldn't harm another child. But you never know these days.
Mac
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But, since when the authorities make justice in cases like this one? Since when they put in jail the pedophiles? When you have read the Marc Dutroux article you are aware of the situation: there is no justice concerning the pedophiles. These people are free because they are part of the system. The question is very delicate. What is good, what is bad? Personally I don't have the answer.
anart:
--- Quote from: forge on June 14, 2012, 11:20:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: loreta on June 12, 2012, 08:36:19 AM ---I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.
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If you have or somebody in the family has a young child, do not leave it in the care of a male acquaintance or kin for babysitting no matter how good you know them. Trust women only. I would be extremely wary during "guest visits" and family come together events and would not let my even child be touched by males appearing surprisingly kind, "fatherly", amiable toward the child and young or older males amazingly "good with children". These males can seemingly play well and seem very well understand children - especially if the child is 3-4 years young. I saw two teenagers 12 and 14 years of age during my career, who seemed super-good with children, turned out to be dangerous sexual-psychopaths, like the one killed in this case. They have always found the young to corrupt.
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forge, that's ridiculous. Decent men do exist. Indecent women exist. How is a child supposed to learn to bond with men if he/she is shielded from interacting with any of them? The Law of Three, forge - do you remember it?
Approaching Infinity:
--- Quote from: loreta on June 14, 2012, 02:54:11 PM ---But, since when the authorities make justice in cases like this one? Since when they put in jail the pedophiles? When you have read the Marc Dutroux article you are aware of the situation: there is no justice concerning the pedophiles. These people are free because they are part of the system. The question is very delicate. What is good, what is bad? Personally I don't have the answer.
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I don't think the situation is so black and white. There are PLENTY of pedophiles in prison. Many are protected (especially if they're part of a power structure), I don't think it's true that there is 'no' justice concerning pedophiles. It depends on the situation.
forge:
@melatonin My mother was is the major abuser in the family. Definitely would arrange that my mother sees her grandchildren as little as possible in person and NOT touching them at all[not because of this topics subject, simply esoteric reasoning]. Short correspondences at most. There are a lot of "of courses" on this topic: i would now leave my children (if i had any) without thinking in the care of my late grandmother. The difference between the two women was night and day.
--- Quote from: anart on June 14, 2012, 02:59:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: forge on June 14, 2012, 11:20:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: loreta on June 12, 2012, 08:36:19 AM ---I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.
--- End quote ---
If you have or somebody in the family has a young child, do not leave it in the care of a male acquaintance or kin for babysitting no matter how good you know them. Trust women only. I would be extremely wary during "guest visits" and family come together events and would not let my even child be touched by males appearing surprisingly kind, "fatherly", amiable toward the child and young or older males amazingly "good with children". These males can seemingly play well and seem very well understand children - especially if the child is 3-4 years young. I saw two teenagers 12 and 14 years of age during my career, who seemed super-good with children, turned out to be dangerous sexual-psychopaths, like the one killed in this case. They have always found the young to corrupt.
--- End quote ---
forge, that's ridiculous. Decent men do exist. Indecent women exist. How is a child supposed to learn to bond with men if he/she is shielded from interacting with any of them? The Law of Three, forge - do you remember it?
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Pondering on how to resolve the consequences of abuse in the past - from the perspective of the Law of Three - I can only see one way out. There was even a podcast about it with the priest talking about transformation of torture victims. So i could figure only this:
In the torrents of fire, flood or violent earthquake mechanical humanity may have a chance to understand all Three Forces at the moment of becoming a martyr - extreme suffering - ,reaching the transformation-stage of the torture-victim. People were reported to change at that stage in the podcast. Without extreme suffering however I can see no change, no way out for this society. Remembering increasing entropy nowadays, i think this society strongly needs and attracts extreme suffering by cataclysm.
I'm only different from mechanical people of having studied the Laws of the Work to a degree and understanding some little, I am willing to follow to an extent.
Therefore:
As consequences of abuse in the past, strikingly similar to the events of the topic article without the killing - i'm willing to move toward the middle of the Pendulum by not swinging to the extreme.
Not carrying out fully what the Father did. Making our pedophile abuser*, - conceptually of course in the sphere of thought revolving about this topic -, (he being alive and well and not having been seen court yet regards his many numerous sexual abuses i know of), *so leaving him perfectly able to think (head unchanged) but rearranging his body, all tendons joints and bones to never be used again so that he lives on, and experiencing his changed physical state all the time for long long years.
I cannot accept the judges authority - Holy Reconciling Third force - yet. Where a
* plaintiff and defendant have their case resolved only through a judge.
* Flour and water become bread only when bonded by fire.
I can't make bread here yet.
Unable to reconcile, just as my signature shows.
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