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The Gnostics and the Archons
Leo40:
There are some threads discussing the writings of the gnostics and their thoughts but I found no mention of the archons which are very important to the gnostics. Therefore I offer this quote:
Quote from John Lash: (_http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienIntrusion.php)
"The Nag Hammadi material contains reports of visionary experiences of the initiates, including first-hand encounters with inorganic beings called Archons. Gnostic teaching explains that these entities arose in the early stage of formation of the solar system, before the Earth was formed. Archons inhabit the solar system, the extraterrestrial realm as such, but they can intrude on Earth. Interestingly, this Gnostic insight accords closely with the view of Jacques Vallee, who maintains that ET/cyborgs probably belong to the local planetary realm. Vallee also proposes that the ET/UFO enigma is a “spiritual control system,” a phenomenon that “behaves like a conditioning process.” (Messengers of Deception). This is exactly what Gnostics said about the Archons: they can affect our minds by subliminal conditioning techniques. Their main tactics are mental error (intellectual virus, or false ideology, especially religious doctrines) and simulation. Archons are predatory, unlike a wide range of non-human and other-dimensional beings also know to the Gnostics, beings who are benevolent or neutral toward humanity.
Physical descriptions of Archons occur in several Gnostic codices. Two types are clearly identified: a neonate or embryonic type, and a draconic or reptilian type. Obviously, these descriptions fit the Greys and Reptilians of contemporary reports to a T. Or I should say, to an ET."
There are definite similarities with Castaneda's predators or fliers.
The gnostic tradition is very old and based on shamanic direct experience.
It is not surprising that they and their writing were almost completely destroyed.
Megan:
--- Quote from: Leo40 on June 13, 2012, 08:03:27 PM ---There are some threads discussing the writings of the gnostics and their thoughts but I found no mention of the archons which are very important to the gnostics...
--- End quote ---
That's odd. Not only do I remember seeing discussions about it, but Google returned 27 distinct hits when I tried just now. Use a Google query like "site:http://cassiopaea.org/forum archons".
mkrnhr:
Hello Leo40,
The devil is in the details as always. You may consider these threads on J. Lash's take on the matter:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,7206.msg50893.html#msg50893
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,27878.msg343510.html#msg343510
Leo40:
Thank you, mkrnhr for the threads.
I totally aggree that it is necessary not only to critically examine any text
but also the author and his sources.
What I find peculiar is the examination of where he published his findings.
imho It is sufficient to make sure there is no agenda or slant in the author's text.
We all collect pieces of the puzzle from various sources. The only thing that should
be observed is the fact of corroborating evidence.
In more simple words we select the items that are factual and discard the author's
conclusions which sometimes are erroneous due to professional limitations or other bias.
These limits are due to the excessive specialization in today's academia; very few
researchers are aware of the bigger picture, lacking the correct context for their findings.
The main reason for my post was to note that awareness of "foreign" influence (i.e. hyper-
dimensional) was well known in relative early times and was violently suppressed.
mkrnhr:
To my understanding Lash is not an academic, although I could be wrong. However, his discourse is clearly coloured by new-agy concepts and wishfull thinking. The idea of Archons being multidimensional predators is interresting enough from the historical viewpoint. However, he goes offtrack right after that IMHO :)
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