Levels of Perception

[Potamus]

Reading about ‘uttered’ on page 190 of "The Wave 5 Petty Tyrants," has led me to connect a number of ideas posited by me over the years, to this frothy work by Laura.

Wow.

My idea here is to examine this notion of “uttered.”  I hope it is fun or useful.

Dispensing with labels like 3D or 4D for the moment, let's go to a realm of curiosity.

I’ll introduce my questions by proposing certain hypothetical personalities.

Three personalities are proposed for purposes of discussion:

1) This person is flesh and blood, perhaps portal, perhaps STS or STO candidate.

2) This person is not flesh and blood (at least not overtly here on Earth) but can read all records of matter.  This means that if you ‘utter’ words, then you vibrate real molecules, and they can see it “forever.”  This person has complete and free access to any point in history, and can view the matter record of any person’s life through simple matter interactions.  This person could be servicing self, or others.


3) This last type of person can see 1) and 2), and plus read all of your thoughts.  AKA knowledge protects, but does that mean that STS can read everyone’s mind?  Then why would “Frank” (to use a familiar example) be sent in to collect information, if say, 4D could hypothetically read all of your thoughts?

I am very curious about this.  If STS had the wisdom to understand certain principles, then they might be STO!  Hence, how can the mind of 4D STS possibly read or even break out of denial enough to look at the reality of an STO mind with an effort at being objective?

Therefore “knowledge protects,” might have a steep angle?  If your adversary cannot understand or grok your inner self, then where does that leave them?

If anyone knows of similar threads here, I’d love to read them, (not an easy search)

Thanks ALL!

PS: My pace of posts & responses may be slow.

[Ana]

Potamus you have already started a thread where you've received feedback regarding your lack of clarity, and here is happening the same, it only amounts to word salad, so please take some time to gather yourself and write as clearly and concisely as possible, try to write for others, making it easy for them before making another post, sometimes in doing so, many doubts and questions in your mind are clarified.

[irjO]

I am very curious about this.  If STS had the wisdom to understand certain principles, then they might be STO!  Hence, how can the mind of 4D STS possibly read or even break out of denial enough to look at the reality of an STO mind with an effort at being objective?

who says that a person with knowledge or wisdom have to be STO because of that?... it depends of how you use that knowledge or wisdom and interact with the creation who make who you are.. i think you are a little confuse on this topic.

[Buddy]

I am very curious about this.  If STS had the wisdom to understand certain principles, then they might be STO!  Hence, how can the mind of 4D STS possibly read or even break out of denial enough to look at the reality of an STO mind with an effort at being objective?

who says that a person with knowledge or wisdom have to be STO because of that?... it depends of how you use that knowledge or wisdom and interact with the creation who make who you are.. i think you are a little confuse on this topic.

I find myself in basic agreement. Maybe you're being confused or too rhetorical, Potamus? Perhaps rewriting the post and grounding the questions with a practical example or two would help?

As it stands, your post seems very much like just an enthymeme of the Aristotelian Rhetoric variety.
_http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-rhetoric/#6.1

[moksha]

2) This person is not flesh and blood (at least not overtly here on Earth) but can read all records of matter.  This means that if you ‘utter’ words, then you vibrate real molecules, and they can see it “forever.”  This person has complete and free access to any point in history, and can view the matter record of any person’s life through simple matter interactions.  This person could be servicing self, or others.


3) This last type of person can see 1) and 2), and plus read all of your thoughts.

I can't be sure of this, but I don't think the 4D STS are omniscient, as you say. Based on what we know so far, that would be more a 6D being, who is neither of the 'dark' or the 'light' - they are equally balanced. The Cs mentioned somewhere, that they can 'see all'. Again this is based on our very limited set of information about this, which may not be even true.

I am very curious about this.  If STS had the wisdom to understand certain principles, then they might be STO!  Hence, how can the mind of 4D STS possibly read or even break out of denial enough to look at the reality of an STO mind with an effort at being objective?

Therefore “knowledge protects,” might have a steep angle?  If your adversary cannot understand or grok your inner self, then where does that leave them?

In the end Potamus, it may all be about perception and awareness. Based on what we know so far, it seems the deeper you are into wishful thinking, the less you are truly aware. According to the Cs, that is what is keeping the 4D STS from 'graduating', because they see only what the wish to see - which again according to the Cs will be/ is their downfall. So even if you did have all the knowledge in the universe, how you perceive directly affects how much of that knowledge you can actually use, and what you can do with it. Perhaps, if they could perceive as the Cs do, then they wouldn't be where they are in the first place?

My 2 cents