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The Secret Within Music:Gurdjieff, Steiner, the Sufis: Music by Laurence Galian
webglider:
Every since I read In Search of the Miraculous many years ago, I've been fascinated by the concept of the law of octaves. I have a general understanding of it, but somehow do not yet know how to consciously apply it to my life.
Today, I found a video the title of which is the subject of this thread. I did a search for Laurence Galian, and found nothing on Sott.
I felt that Galian was imparting a lot of important information concerning the relationships between
micro and macrocosms in this videos which seem to differ only by scale. I would really appreciate feedback about the validity and usefulness of this information or correction if I've misinterpreted any of the information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWIrSwcZ4aw&feature=related
I found some information on Galian on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Galian
The music in the video was composed by Galian. However, I found this piece by Gurdjieff which I also stumbled on today much more evocative and inspiring. No disrespect to Galian. I can't tell if my preference is objective or subjective based on my own development and level of understanding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupTHCkh0zM&feature=related
I'm wondering if it is possible to include sacred music within the Work that we do here on this forum.
Just a thought.
anart:
--- Quote from: webglider on July 04, 2012, 07:05:36 PM ---
I'm wondering if it is possible to include sacred music within the Work that we do here on this forum.
Just a thought.
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That would depend, as always, on one's understanding of 'sacred music'. The Law of Octaves, to my understanding, is much more about energy, development and the action of man (and the forces that act upon man) than it is about literal music, though it can be represented in musical compositions. I often listen to Gurdjieff's compositions and find them to be contemplative and restorative, but that's just my experience.
harneloot:
--- Quote from: webglider on July 04, 2012, 07:05:36 PM ---
I'm wondering if it is possible to include sacred music within the Work that we do here on this forum.
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Work is done in life, not on a message board.
Buddy:
--- Quote from: webglider on July 04, 2012, 07:05:36 PM ---Every since I read In Search of the Miraculous many years ago, I've been fascinated by the concept of the law of octaves. I have a general understanding of it, but somehow do not yet know how to consciously apply it to my life.
Today, I found a video the title of which is the subject of this thread. I did a search for Laurence Galian, and found nothing on Sott.
I felt that Galian was imparting a lot of important information concerning the relationships between
micro and macrocosms in this videos which seem to differ only by scale. I would really appreciate feedback about the validity and usefulness of this information or correction if I've misinterpreted any of the information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWIrSwcZ4aw&feature=related
I found some information on Galian on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Galian
The music in the video was composed by Galian. However, I found this piece by Gurdjieff which I also stumbled on today much more evocative and inspiring. No disrespect to Galian. I can't tell if my preference is objective or subjective based on my own development and level of understanding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupTHCkh0zM&feature=related
I'm wondering if it is possible to include sacred music within the Work that we do here on this forum.
Just a thought.
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My personal sense is that it is simply important to understand that there ARE "relationships between micro and macrocosms ... which seem to differ only by scale".
As an experiment, have you ever listened to any of these compositions while reading or studying material related to the Work? I've done it with classical music (Mozart seems to work best) and have experienced easier and more fluid integrations of ideas that remind me of how some autistic people learn: facts and factlets seeming to fit themselves into wider and wider contexts until you get a sense of a hologrammic understanding; that is, whenever you (want to) recall something, you can easily find a pointer to it from anywhere in your current thinking process as all is non-linearly connected anyway.
Everyone is different though, but it seems that there are definite musical equations that help the learning process more so than others and more so than not.
webglider:
Quote from Buddy:
--- Quote ---My personal sense is that it is simply important to understand that there ARE "relationships between micro and macrocosms ... which seem to differ only by scale".
As an experiment, have you ever listened to any of these compositions while reading or studying material related to the Work? I've done it with classical music (Mozart seems to work best) and have experienced easier and more fluid integrations of ideas that remind me of how some autistic people learn: facts and factlets seeming to fit themselves into wider and wider contexts until you get a sense of a hologrammic understanding; that is, whenever you (want to) recall something, you can easily find a pointer to it from anywhere in your current thinking process as all is non-linearly connected anyway.
Everyone is different though, but it seems that there are definite musical equations that help the learning process more so than others and more so than not.
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Thanks Buddy for this suggestion. As I read your post, I realized that maybe if I try to learn in a non-linear way, I may make some progress. I have felt stuck for several years wanting to advance and break through this prison which I have somehow constructed for myself. Music and art would most likely help me perceive the world in a non-linear way. I feel trapped by words. I feel as though I'm in a cage and can't get out.
As for the impetus that caused me to write the post in the first place, it evolved from my understanding of Gurdjieff's octave and that there are specific intervals which, if the appropriate work is not done at the right time in the right way, entropy will set in.
I've noticed that every once in a while something happens here that changes everything, by adding a new branch to the work already done. The first change I noticed was several years ago with the introduction of FOTCM. Then after that came the changes on the Sott News Page to include channeled material. And most recently is the idea of the Sott live interactive radio show.
All this is a powerful example of conscious work. I'd like to do this in my own life. I think my recent trip to England to participate in a crop circle tour was my way of trying to prevent myself from falling into entropy. Since I've been back, I've been stuck again, kind of depressed, but also hopeful that I'll be able to break out of whatever it is that is stifling my growth.
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--- Quote ---Quote from: webglider on July 04, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
I'm wondering if it is possible to include sacred music within the Work that we do here on this forum.
Quote from harneloot:
Work is done in life, not on a message board.
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harneloot, I don't know how long you've been here, but at some point you will come to the understanding that this forum is much much more than a "message board".
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