One of the things he mentions is that you cannot teach yourself, that you can only learn ultimately from someone who's above you.
In my opinion, putting someone "above" you is no different than putting a person on a pedestal.
What they mean by above you, is that they think the person knows more than you, and that you could potentially learn from that person, there is nothing wrong with that, some people ARE better than other people at things, it sucks for all those that want to be the BEST and arent but I think its true. All people are not created equal no, but they should be treated equally:
I think it might be different for all people on how they might grow, For me I learn all the time by teaching myself, if I never taught myself anything I would know pretty much half of what is known now, experience is a form of growth also, Look at laura all she does is READ and I really do find that to be her source of growth, as mine.But what's your point? These are merely individual habits. Do you think each individual possesses an entirely differently-working brain hence?
HUH? My point being is that every single individual is different in how their soul, brain mechanisms, and bodily funtions work and are. Being that everyone being different in these ways and probably more experience and grow at different levels. So depending on the individuals state of being would determine the processes of how that person can learn. I do not think there is a ONE method treatment for every single person out there that can perscribe them to grow, but I am not saying its impossible . Is that what you meant?.
I dont get what you guys/girls mean when you say that no one can learn from books and you can only learn from teachers , when books are written by teachers and some of the best teachers at that.
I think that what people are trying to point out is that you cannot learn about yourself just from reading books. You may be able to see the top layer of quite obvious things. But the deeper issues are hidden from us by those very same programs/Is that make up our personality. Only by listening to teachers and others who have already seen these programs in themselves, know what they look like and can spot them in others and can then show them for what they are to others. That's why networking is what is needed to truly see ourselves as we really are.
Yes, I know that you cannot just learn from yourself by only reading books, well actually I dont know but I did not speak entirely upon what was in my head the other day because I was alittle loopy from not going to sleep. Sorry everyone I will try to be more specifiably and speak truly more often. I do think that person(s) are capable themselves throughout life to identify problems they have, personality programs whatsoever it may be if they care enough they will find a way. Yes teachers and networking are a great help I would never deny that ever.
Imagine you have to interpret some literature. Of course, it's quite easy to put a subjective interpretation upon it. But there are usually quite different and much more advanced objective, “real” interpretations out there comprising experts' consensus. Learning must not be confused with mere entertainment.
Yes there are experts out there that do have a lot of knowledge and their advice might be the most real at the time, but ten years goes by and this other expert finds proof that totality opposes the truth of the first expert. This has been going on for hundreds of years back and forth. it seems to be that no one really knows much. SO its hard to say whats the best, maybe all of them are once unified in a collective way.
I think you can learn and grow SOME by reading and experiences. But the work isn't about progressing alittle or climbing up one rung on the ladder and in order to improve yourself and progress a good amount in the work you need others to point out what you are doing right or wrong, give you different perspectives, point out where to turn for the right information. I think you are arguing that you can learn and grow through reading and I think you are right but only to a certain point.
Yes depending on the individual saying this individual learns best by reading, that individual would do well in learning by reading?, but yes I agree some people learn differently and not JUST through reading. That is my faults I should of specified more clearly before.
Do you know the difference between an A-B-C influence can you give a real life example of what A influences is and B influence is? Can you feel when your being has increased if you look back over your years?
I have NO clue what your meaning by A-B-C influence? or what you mean by when you say what A influences is and B influences is? You got me curious. Would you elaborate by defining'' A and B influences'' in different words? Or explain what you meant? and YES I feel and think that I HAVE learned alot over the years. I can feel that my being increases everytime I read knowledge. But that is just what I think about it I do not really know.
And this argument is really futile because you are right to a certain extend but I think the bigger picture is....Im sure all of us here want to progress in the most efficient and painless manner and without a teacher your growth progress will not be as efficient as if you had one and you will make mistakes that could be avoided if you had a network/teacher (this is fact). I don't think anyone wants to grow a little