Unknown respiratory illnesses

anart

A Disturbance in the Force
Small death counts thus far, but a bit of a blip on the radar for "unknown" diseases causing fatalities in the States. Texas and Alabama:

http://news.sky.com/story/1094270/alabama-two-dead-in-mystery-illness-outbreak

http://blog.chron.com/healthzone/2013/05/two-dead-one-in-critical-condition-from-unknown-disease-in-houston-area/
 
Last Monday I had a shift and there were several cases that match the symptoms reported on the stories. Nobody has died so far, that I know of. But I was surprised to see the marked difference of people showing up with these symptoms compared to a normal day. Basically people chocking from the spasm of the airways. Odd considering their background history. It was like a spell just fell over the city.
 
The article talks about 'pneumonia-like symptoms' and here I've noticed that many have that symptoms, including me. It all started two months ago, the weather hit a 30 degress Celsius for two days in a row and I've thought about an allergy reaction to pollen or simply sprouting grass. For 8 hours I had something that could be described only as pneumonia, very unusual. I've never experienced such an allergy reaction, nothing like that ever happened, even 15 years ago or more when I was super weak against pollens before the dietary changes. The the day after it was all gone, except for that coughing, lungs and nose constantly filled of mucus, annoying but tolerable. Still feeling the wake of it all after two months though.

I was not alone, many around have respiratory problems never experienced before during this time of the year.

The weather is at odds indeed. It's very cold and rainy here in Italy, with shots of high temperatures here and there. One month ago it was raining dust, it was very thick and I've though about a layer of cometary dust moving around.
 
Psyche said:
Last Monday I had a shift and there were several cases that match the symptoms reported on the stories. Nobody has died so far, that I know of. But I was surprised to see the marked difference of people showing up with these symptoms compared to a normal day. Basically people chocking from the spasm of the airways. Odd considering their background history. It was like a spell just fell over the city.


If I may ask...what treatments were administered and how well did they respond?
 
Is there any link to the "coronavirus" infections going on ?
Seems a good possibility to me .

(Edit: signs of a major outbreak coming soon perhaps ? )
 
sitting said:
If I may ask...what treatments were administered and how well did they respond?

Standard mainstream drugs to open up the airways, i.e. ventolin and atrovent. Some work at the level of the airway's receptors: Beta receptors. They all responded immediately. When you are literally choking, they can be quite useful. But it is one of those emergency remedies that only relieve symptoms. They do nothing for the root of the cause and they are full of side effects.

There are herbal equivalents that help open up the airways, i.e. eucalyptus inhalations:

_http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/eucalyptus-000241.htm

It was the favorite remedy of some people I've known with severe spasm of the airways. It seems it also has anti-viral properties.
 
Here is Alabama Department of Public Health ALERT Message 5/21/13 http://www.adph.org/epi/assets/ALERT.pdf .

In here http://dothanfirst.com/fulltext?nxd_id=273812 it says:

"Two people have died and five others are hospitalized after suffering an undetermined illness. "We're investigating an increase in respiratory type symptoms," said Peggy Blakeney, Area Administrator for the Alabama Department of Public Health. "An investigation is ongoing and there are many unknowns at this time."

The two people who died were in their 30's and 40's. Other information, including sex of the victims, was not disclosed though Dothan First has confirmed one was an Enterprise man in his 30's. Those hospitalized with the mysterious illness are of varying ages ranging from young adults to an elderly person. All reside in southeast Alabama and died in local hospitals. There are no other known cases in the state.

It is believed the first person affected became sick on or about April 19. However, Blakeney said the Department of Public Health was not notified until last week."

and later,

""This is not an epidemic," stressed Lisa Smith, Emergency Preparedness Investigator with ADPH. "It appears not to be highly contagious.""

If it's not highly contagious, why then it was listed as a Biohazard 4? as it says here: _http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130522-39327-USA

I read one comment on this mysterious disease from a woman, who lives in the area, who said something like, (sorry, I can't find the link to the site where it was posted. I accidentally closed it :-[) "maybe, it is because they now do all this spraying against mosquitoes. Today, when I was driving, I went through the whole cloud of it."
 
Psyche said:
sitting said:
If I may ask...what treatments were administered and how well did they respond?

Standard mainstream drugs to open up the airways, i.e. ventolin and atrovent. Some work at the level of the airway's receptors: Beta receptors. They all responded immediately. When you are literally choking, they can be quite useful. But it is one of those emergency remedies that only relieve symptoms. They do nothing for the root of the cause and they are full of side effects.


Thanks!
 
The number of sick has increased:

Ala. mystery illness cases climb to 10; CDC still investigating
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/22313426/mystery-illness-kills-2-alabama-residents-hospitalizes-5-others

I fear this is the beginning of something really big and really bad ala 'germ disbursement'.
 
My first thoughts were something industrial toxic/chemical in the locality. Interesting theory here on GM cotton: http://www.sott.net/article/262070-What-is-causing-mysterious-deaths-in-Alabama-Could-they-be-related-to-Monsantos-Bt-cotton-crops

While the cause is currently unknown, it's interesting to note that Southeastern Alabama's cotton fields are in full bloom this time of year - and that some of these crops are Bt cotton. Bt cotton is a genetically modified cotton that contains a Bacillus thuringiensis (or Bt) pesticide within the plant.
The Institute for Responsible Technology reported :
Workers exposed to Bt cotton developed allergies

1. Agricultural laborers in six villages who picked or loaded Bt cotton reported reactions of the skin, eyes and upper respiratory tract.
2. Some laborers required hospitalization.
3. Employees at a cotton gin factory take antihistamines everyday.
4. One doctor treated about 250 cotton laborers

Sheep died after grazing in Bt cotton fields

1. After the cotton harvest in parts of India, sheep herds grazed continuously on Bt cotton plants.
2. Reports from four villages revealed that about 25% of the sheep died within a week.
3. Post mortem studies suggest a toxic reaction.
_http://responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers/65-health-risks/1notes
 
I dont want to sound paranoid but today I have looked at 3 topics in a row that talk about various conditions including respiratory troubles.
I have had a huge opioid episode days ago (wheat, dairy, ...) and everything seems so closely related to what I felt recently. Perhaps I am just projecting myself here and this opioid thing is already known on this forum (not by all I think)...

So I dunno, Voila :)
 
emilien512 said:
I dont want to sound paranoid but today I have looked at 3 topics in a row that talk about various conditions including respiratory troubles.
I have had a huge opioid episode days ago (wheat, dairy, ...) and everything seems so closely related to what I felt recently. Perhaps I am just projecting myself here and this opioid thing is already known on this forum (not by all I think)...

So I dunno, Voila :)

For clarity, would you mind elaborating a little more on what happened and what you felt.
 
Pob said:
For clarity, would you mind elaborating a little more on what happened and what you felt.

I felt like being a sedated zombie, like a person having pain but unable to feel it, anything that needed me to move my body was the equivalent to make a huge conscious effort like trying to bypass self-induced sleep. I would even forget to breath and then get headache, respiration was really slow. Even the night was very hard, sleeping without naturally moving (which I usually do) and then awakening the morning with lots of pain to the bodyparts where pressure of weight was applied. This happened after taking some dairy and about half a bread, which were not part of my diet since about 2 weeks (thats my only record so far :( ). It lasted for about 2 days and now I am well recovering (4 days).
 
Several weeks ago I twice came out of keytosis from eating too many nuts, which in turn impacted how I felt in general. It likely had an effect on my immune system because the following Monday (May 20th) I experienced a respiratory illness and stayed home from work (I noticed that some who have gotten sick worked at cotton fields, and just as a note I've been working outside full days too). I woke up with an awful spasm in my throat that caused me to cough continuously for what felt like a few minutes. I had labored breathing up until the evening and was pretty fatigued. I felt better the next day but it lingered for much of the week. Vitamin C worked some but it didn't really feel like it was kicking it (took in liposomal form as well as regular ascorbic acid form). I took some colloidal silver and it seemed to help at first but then wasn't all that effective. Finally I took some food grade hydrogen peroxide diluted in water (see thread here ) and that did the trick.

Here's a couple of other recent noteworthy articles on a new SARS-like respiratory virus called Novel Coronavirus, or Middle East respiratory syndrome as it's now being called:

Coronavirus deaths mount to 16 In Saudi Arabia
21 May 2013
"With the death of one more patient at a hospital in Al-Ahsa, death toll in the novel coronavirus (nCoV) infection in Saudi Arabia has mounted to 16, the Ministry of Health (MoH) said on Monday."
(...)
"The new virus belongs to the same family that causes common colds and the one that caused the outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) that emerged in Asia in 2003. "

Novel Coronavirus: 5 Things To Know About the SARS-Like Infection
May 29, 2013

On Tuesday, a 65-year-old French man died from a SARS-like infection, called novel coronavirus (nCoV). He was the first man in France to die from the infection, which he contracted after visiting Dubai. Meanwhile, health officials in Saudi Arabia — where the virus was first detected in April 2012 — reported five additional cases of the infection.

Novel coronavirus is among the family of coronaviruses that cause illnesses that range from the common cold to Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). Until last year, the new strain had never before been seen in humans. As of last week, the WHO reported that there have been a total of 44 people infected since September 2012, 22 of whom have died.

New Sars-like illness is 'threat to the entire world'
29 MAY 2013
The new Sars-like respiratory illness which has killed half of the people who have been infected with it is a "threat to the entire world", the World Health Organisation (WHO) has warned.

Experts raised concerns that the disease is "emerging faster than our understanding".

The WHO says that since September last year there have been 44 laboratory confirmed cases across eight countries which have resulted in 22 deaths, including two people in the UK, but reports suggest that the figure could be higher.

Earlier this week, WHO's director general said that the novel virus, which has been called Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus - or MERS-CoV, is her "greatest concern".

Addressing the World Health Assembly in Geneva on Monday, Dr Margaret Chan said: "Looking at the overall global situation, my greatest concern right now is the novel coronavirus.

"We understand too little about this virus when viewed against the magnitude of its potential threat.
 
Hi, Renaissance, this mysterious disease is mentioned in the latest C session here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31445.0.html

(L) Okay, speaking of transitions and changes and people attracting things to themselves that are commensurate with their vibratory frequencies or their consciousness or their information load or lack thereof, there is an unknown respiratory disease going around in Alabama and Texas. The question here is what is it, and what caused it?

A: In this case, look to the secret gov facilities and their experiments.

Regarding nCoV or MERS, quite an interesting situation is emerging, osit.

Here _http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/05/24/1932208/who-intellectual-property-claims-hindering-research-on-deadly-novel-coronavirus the following was posted:

"The World Health Organization (WHO) publicly expressed dismay yesterday concerning news that intellectual property claims were hindering research on a deadly new emerging virus. Novel coronavirus (nCoV), a member of the same viral genus as the causative agent of SARS, has claimed the lives of 22 people (out of 44 reported infected) and left both researchers and health officials scrambling to develop effective diagnostic tests in addition to possible medications and vaccines against nCoV.

Now, however, claims of intellectual property on the new virus are hindering research on nCoV according to the WHO, delaying advancements on tools to prevent further spread of the infection. Stories of intellectual property rights in science hindering advancements in research, particularly in clinical applications, are nothing new; the U.S. Supreme Court recently heard arguments on the validity of patents on the BRCA1/2 genes and has yet to issue a decision. The issue of sharing scientific information in order to promote faster research on emerging pathogens is not limited to intellectual property — a recent article in the journal Nature highlighted a case where Chinese researchers risked having their research scooped after uploading viral sequences to a public database designed aid global scientific collaboration."

Here _http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2013/05/as-outbreak-continues-confusion-.html?ref=hp_ we read:
Are Dutch scientists hampering the fight against a lethal new coronavirus by patenting the virus and making it needlessly difficult for other scientists to study it? Accusations to that effect were flying last week at the World Health Assembly (WHA), the annual meeting of the world's health ministers in Geneva, Switzerland. Margaret Chan, the director-general of the World Health Organization (WHO), used strong words in an apparent attack on virologist Ron Fouchier and his colleagues at Erasmus MC in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

But there is nothing unusual about the arrangement under which Fouchier has shared samples of the virus, several scientists and an intellectual property expert tell ScienceInsider. And so far, nobody has offered concrete examples of how the legal arrangements have slowed down research. The criticism is "completely unjustified," says Christian Drosten, a virologist at the University of Bonn in Germany who has developed diagnostic tests for the virus. "Nothing was blocked."
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Fouchier's group identified the virus, now called Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV), in June last year after receiving a sample from Ali Zaki, an Egyptian doctor working at the Dr. Soliman Fakeeh Hospital in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

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...the head of Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg, as saying that the Rotterdam group had made it hard for others to use the virus. "[T]here was a lot of negotiation and a lot of lawyers involved both with us and the Americans and others around the world," Plummer said, "which slowed things down quite a bit."

On 23 May, Saudi Deputy Health Minister Ziad Memish chimed in at WHA, complaining that intellectual property considerations were slowing down the development of diagnostic tests. "We are still struggling with diagnostics and the reason is that the virus was patented by scientists and is not allowed to be used for investigations by other scientists," Memish was quoted as saying by French press agency AFP. According to the report, he went on to charge that contracts had been signed with vaccine and drug companies, which he said need to give their approval every time another lab wants to use the virus.
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Erasmus MC denied the allegations in a press statement issued on Friday. "Rumours that the Viroscience department of Erasmus MC would hamper research into the MERS coronavirus are clearly wrong and not based on facts," the statement read. Virologist Ab Osterhaus, who heads the department, says that he doesn't understand the controversy. "We have given this virus to virtually any lab that has asked for it," Osterhaus says.

Erasmus MC has applied for a patent on "use of the sequence and host receptor data" because without patents, companies would never invest in making diagnostics, vaccines, or antiviral medication for MERS, Osterhaus says. But the application is still pending, and it may take months before patent authorities rule on it and the patent becomes public. Erasmus MC has not yet gauged commercial interest, Osterhaus says -- let alone given companies control over who can get their hands on the virus, as Saudi Arabia's Memish claimed.

At issue now is the MTA, a document that most biomedical laboratories routinely use when they exchange cells, samples, or pathogens. It governs, among other things, what the receiving labs can do with the virus. The MTA for the MERS virus, which was obtained by ScienceInsider, stipulates that the virus material still belongs to the original provider (in this case Erasmus MC) and that the recipient cannot give it to other labs. It also asks for written consent from Erasmus for using the virus for commercial purposes.

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Matthew Frieman, a coronavirus researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine in Baltimore, says that he ordered the virus as soon as he heard about it. It took a couple of weeks to get the paperwork done, he says, "but there was nothing unique about that process." Drosten, who has developed a diagnostic test using the virus from Erasmus MC, says that "anyone can use [the virus] for free." "What really shocks me is that the WHO seems to be buying into" the complaints, he says.

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Even if the MTA does not impede sharing of the virus, questions about intellectual property rights may well surface in the future. Memish says that his main gripe is with the fact that Zaki sent a virus sample taken from a patient in Saudi Arabia to Rotterdam in the first place and that Erasmus MC has been able to file for patents as a result. "Samples … were shipped outside of the country without the knowledge or permission of the Ministry of Health and I cannot believe that any country on this planet would allow this to happen," Memish says.

Curious situation, isn't it? It seems to me that the WHO officials are just pretending that they can't get the information about this virus. Or is it something else?

One more curious thing, osit. From the same source:

The global health community has debated similar issues before. In 2007, Indonesia triggered a crisis when it stopped sharing samples from people infected with the influenza strain H5N1, over concerns they would be used to develop pandemic vaccines that the country would not be able to afford. That issue was eventually resolved in 2011 through a sharing system called the Pandemic Influenza Preparedness Framework, which rewards countries for sharing their viruses.

The agreement applies to only flu viruses and not coronaviruses such as MERS

It's all pretty confusing to me. Is that this novel virus a natural occurrence brought in by cometary dust, for example, or it was designed in some military research facility and then spread throughout the world?
 

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